Best stubby/smg non-m4

Floreos · March 21st, 2017, 04:25

Hey guys I'm looking for some good choices for a secondary but can also be used as a main, competing with high end AEG's

What are some of the best options as well as brand?

Something upgradeable overtime is great
Durable
and pretty decent out of the box.

Thanks

Edit: non gbb plz

scottyfox · March 21st, 2017, 08:52

MP7.
KWA.

Mags expensive though.

/Thread

Danke · March 21st, 2017, 13:17

Same.

Wrath144 · March 21st, 2017, 13:49

The ASG Scorpion EVO are very good as well.

Datawraith · March 21st, 2017, 14:03

LCT's making MP5s. Maybe they'll make an MP5K?

Drakker · March 21st, 2017, 15:22

They did post pictures of something that looked like a MP5K upper on Facebook or Popular Airsoft, so they might very well release one.

You might also want to look into the LCT Bisons and SR3s.

lurkingknight · March 21st, 2017, 18:17

I have a spectre equipped ics mp5 on 13:1 gears ssed down to 375fps... it gives people fits in cqb. rhopped 229mm prommy makes it deadly. The only problem I have with it is that I hate the hopup unit and how it adjusts. It can't hold the setting over time.

Datawraith · March 21st, 2017, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by lurkingknight

I have a spectre equipped ics mp5 on 13:1 gears ssed down to 375fps... it gives people fits in cqb. rhopped 229mm prommy makes it deadly. The only problem I have with it is that I hate the hopup unit and how it adjusts. It can't hold the setting over time.

Is there no aftermarket hop unit for it? Also, curious to know if you have an opinion on the Scorpion EVO, lurking.

Styrak · March 21st, 2017, 19:02

G&G Sig552.

Bonus is you don't really have to upgrade or change anything.

Splinter · March 21st, 2017, 19:38

I've always had good experiences with the TM MP5K

Floreos · March 21st, 2017, 19:57

Thanks for the suggestions!, definitely leaning towards a mp5k or ask Evo atm, I'll have to do some research on them.

Datawraith · March 21st, 2017, 20:03

Bear in mind, as far as I know, the EVO uses proprietary internals, so upgrading might be a bit of a pain. I'm hoping lurkingknight or another respected tech on here would chime in and offer their opinion of it. Online reviews show people like it, but I would take it as a grain of salt as nowadays there's a lot of hype about a product that might not perform as well as they would make you believe. Maybe someone in BC near you has one that they'd be willing to let you try out.

Some MP5s use a slightly modified V2 gearbox, so upgrades galore. We'll have to wait and see if LCT's is standard (I'm pretty sure it will be, they've got a good track record with their AKs). Splinter, is the TM MP5K plastic bodied?

lurkingknight · March 21st, 2017, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Datawraith

Is there no aftermarket hop unit for it? Also, curious to know if you have an opinion on the Scorpion EVO, lurking.

There are prommy hopup parts for the tm style mp5 hop, but the way the nub is adjusted is the weakpoint in this design. I have those first strike parts and there was some improvement in the tightness, but in the end I opted to set the hopup and then attempted to tape the lever adjuster into place. It's not ideal but I very rarely ever have to adjust the hop once it's lifting the weight I'm using. The hop might be a bit more steady on a standard hop configuration but because theres no give in the rhop patch and nub, the passage of the BB is enough movement to bump the nub arm up out of where you set it. I was having issues with .32s lately getting the arm to stay put, seems to have improved with going back down to .3s

The g&g, cyma and CA ones all different are slider style like the AK and I think they are a bit tighter. I'm waiting with baited breath to see how lct does theirs and will probably sell or gut the one I have to put it into an lct if it's bettter. A quick change spring on a g3/mp5 would be perfect and a hopup improvement would be ideal along with a stamped steel upper.

As for the scorpion, I have not put my hands on one yet and nobody has given me one to upgrade, so I have no input to offer. All my evaluations for guns and their upgradability are based on knowledge I get when I open one up.

ThunderCactus · March 21st, 2017, 20:38

I upgraded an 8 year old CA MP5 and now it's basically a sniper rifle

Floreos · March 21st, 2017, 20:40

I found a deal on craigs list for an g&g mp5 sd5 for 225, what do you guys think about that? Should I get a different brand for that?

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March 21st, 2017, 04:25	#1
Floreos Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver B.C.	Best stubby/smg non-m4 Hey guys I'm looking for some good choices for a secondary but can also be used as a main, competing with high end AEG's What are some of the best options as well as brand? Something upgradeable overtime is great Durable and pretty decent out of the box. Thanks Edit: non gbb plz Last edited by Floreos; March 21st, 2017 at 14:54..

March 21st, 2017, 08:52	#2
scottyfox Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ottawa	MP7. KWA. Mags expensive though. /Thread __________________ Views are my own.

March 21st, 2017, 13:17	#3
Danke Prancercise Guru Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Danger Zone	Same. __________________ Airsoft, where nothing is hurt but feelings.

March 21st, 2017, 13:49	#4
Wrath144 formerly steyr Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba	The ASG Scorpion EVO are very good as well. __________________ BROFORCE Admin - Winnipeg Airsoft

March 21st, 2017, 14:03	#5
Datawraith Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Markham	LCT's making MP5s. Maybe they'll make an MP5K?

March 21st, 2017, 15:22	#6
Drakker Official ASC Geomorphologist Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montr?al south shore, Qc	They did post pictures of something that looked like a MP5K upper on Facebook or Popular Airsoft, so they might very well release one. You might also want to look into the LCT Bisons and SR3s. __________________ Keep quiet. Sound travels faster than BBs. Québec province's master age verification representative.

March 21st, 2017, 18:17	#7
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	I have a spectre equipped ics mp5 on 13:1 gears ssed down to 375fps... it gives people fits in cqb. rhopped 229mm prommy makes it deadly. The only problem I have with it is that I hate the hopup unit and how it adjusts. It can't hold the setting over time. __________________ I futz with V2s, V3s and V6s. I could be wrong... but probably, most likely not, as far as I know.

March 21st, 2017, 19:02	#9
Styrak Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, SK	G&G Sig552. Bonus is you don't really have to upgrade or change anything. __________________ Airsoft Sales and Repair/Upgrade Services

March 21st, 2017, 19:38	#10
Splinter Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	I've always had good experiences with the TM MP5K __________________ echozerofiveseven

March 21st, 2017, 19:57	#11
Floreos Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver B.C.	Thanks for the suggestions!, definitely leaning towards a mp5k or ask Evo atm, I'll have to do some research on them.

March 21st, 2017, 20:03	#12
Datawraith Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Markham	Bear in mind, as far as I know, the EVO uses proprietary internals, so upgrading might be a bit of a pain. I'm hoping lurkingknight or another respected tech on here would chime in and offer their opinion of it. Online reviews show people like it, but I would take it as a grain of salt as nowadays there's a lot of hype about a product that might not perform as well as they would make you believe. Maybe someone in BC near you has one that they'd be willing to let you try out. Some MP5s use a slightly modified V2 gearbox, so upgrades galore. We'll have to wait and see if LCT's is standard (I'm pretty sure it will be, they've got a good track record with their AKs). Splinter, is the TM MP5K plastic bodied?

March 21st, 2017, 20:38	#14
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	I upgraded an 8 year old CA MP5 and now it's basically a sniper rifle

March 21st, 2017, 20:40	#15
Floreos Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Vancouver B.C.	I found a deal on craigs list for an g&g mp5 sd5 for 225, what do you guys think about that? Should I get a different brand for that?

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