G&G G96 game play experience

[Reaver_RRTS]

Just had a game on sunday that I used the G&G G96 for the first time. First off, chrono. I was worried about this, as all videos I've seen show it shooting WAY too high. My first mag, (fifteen shots) ALL around 400 fps +- 5fps on propane. Spent an hour or two at the field mucking with the hop-up and found out it kept shooting hard left. Figured it was just the wind, as it was fairly windy. Also noticed that during game, I couldnt seem to get a bb past 50 to maybe 80 feet. In retrospect, using my teammate's .25's was stupid but i was having an off day with my brand new G&G CM16 Raider not working so I wasn't thinking about that, will remember to use higher weight ammo. Aside from that, I discovered a MAJOR problem: After taking the rifle home and pulling it apart right down to it's bones, I discovered the bloody inner barrel is BENT. Rolled it across the floor which i KNOW is flat and the barrel had a slight hesitation as it rolled. It'd roll, slow down, then roll forward again. It's slight, but enough to completely botch ANY shot. Will need a new barrel.

Secondly, the hop up is just a small rubber patch siting on top of the barrel, and the hop up nub is a metal ball bearing under a spring that's pushed down by a rotating wheel just above the barrel, mounted to the rail assembly for the scope. Will likely replace that as well.

Question is, what is best? Some say VS-10 hop up and pdi barrel? Just want to know if that's optimal and what will need to be done to prepare the new parts to fit the rifle ie modding anything like that.

Thanks,

Reaver

[Styrak]

VSR10 parts will not fit in an L96, especially a gas L96. Completely different systems.

[Reaver_RRTS]

So why do so many people say to use it?! Gah this stuff is confusing -_- Well, fine. What would be ideal upgrades for it?

[IggysPiggy]

Heads up the g96 isn't a l96 it is an AICS stock with a "rem 700" action.

Hence why it's interchangeable parts with the KJW m700.
As for hopup I forget ill look for pics of mine.

[Reaver_RRTS]

Technically it's called the G&G G96 'Mauser'.... lol And thanks Iggy I'd appreciate any help I can get with this thing.

[Hectic]

The g96 is prety much beyond help. The problem is this. The g96 is the same as an m700. GandG makes all (or most) of the upgrade parts available for the m700. When GandG made this gun they used all the parts they make effectively making a preupgraded gun right down to the accuracy international type stock. The issue is their exicution. It is a solidly built gun and nice to look at but it fires way hot outta the box (and you said yours wasnt so there is alrdy a problem with it) snd there are little to no upgrade parts available as the ones on the market are in the gun from the get go.
It is a nice rifle but without an HPA conversion its not really a gameable one.
Thats just the way it is. Gas isnt really a good platform for a sniper rifle andbjt will leave alot to be desired even after an HPA conversion.

[Strelok]

Technically or not... A name doesnt magically make it work with L96 parts.

You'll want to get a chamber that can adopt the VSR10 hopup rubber and barrel. Just do a search around for them, they exist.

Otherwise, the rest of the gun is fine.

[Reaver_RRTS]

There's an allen screw on the bolt at the back, it's a velocity adjustment screw. When I first fired the rifle it shot 400fps. I adjusted it slightly and suddenly it's shooting 415. Consistency was pretty good considering it's propane. I toned it back down to 400fps. When I first found out about it, I had unscrewed it a bit but didn't have a way to test the velocity. Even so, I do intend to convert it to HPA. Beyond that, it needs a new barrel. the current one is bent and is useless.

[Hectic]

Yes some of them did have the adjustable bolt. So your lucky there.
This is what youll want but finding one will be tough
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/king-arms...or-m700-1.html
Youll also most likely need a longer nozzle (least thats the info floating on the interwebs)

[Reaver_RRTS]

The nozzle is something I'm concerned about, the M700 seems to have a glued on nozzle, but the G96 version appears to be a physical component of the bolt. Only option seems to be machining it and somehow installing a new one. As of yet, that I don't know a lot about there doesn't seem to be a heck of a lot of concrete information regarding it, least as far as my searches have found. Appreciate the link to the chamber, I'll start looking around. If it's found, can i simply drop it into the rifle or will I have to do some modifying? I don't have a dremel or access to machinery anymore, so it's hard to do anything like that.

[Hectic]

Should be a drop in part. Will need a vsr style inner barrel for it tho.
As far as i know you buy what is called a "high power bolt" for the longer nozzle
Edit. It seems the nozzle comes with the kit and seems it is posible to get the old one off and replace with the new one
http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/lo...p/t197959.html

[Reaver_RRTS]

Thanks, Hectic. I found two places that have that conversion kit, but holy CRAP $114 bucks plus shipping from England?! The other one is 90 from I THINK the states, but pretty well every where else is out of stock... There was a Spartan Doctrine conversion kit that looks identical but a LOT cheaper ($38 compared to $90) but its probably one of those"you get what you paid for" types lol

[Hectic]

Yup its like the angel custom stuff for vsr's looks the same but far from its laylax counterparts lol. To be honest 90bucks isnt bad. A vsr10 laylax hop up is 95 bucks and the nozzle is 30 or 40. Bolt action upgrades arent cheap for 2 reasons. 1 is that snipers ars picky OCD types (mostly anyhow) and we demand perfection so alot of r&d goes into making the parts just right.
2 is that after all the r&d snd high end materials are used the market is small so we gotta pay out the arse for the parts we need to build good quality bolt actions.
At the end of it all we end up with guns ranging from 800-1200 bucks that are hard as fack to sell because us OCD guys wanna build em ourselves to make sure they are perfect.
There is a 1000 doller vsr on the classifieds thats been there for months. Good deal but hard to sell. My vsr has about 1000 bucks in it and about 300-400 bucks worth the stuff that has been in it and now sits around collecting dust (mostly inner barrels at 80-100 bucks a pop lol)
And that doesnt count shipping (most often from Japan or China) and the hundreds of hours building testing and tweaking that we put in.

[Reaver_RRTS]

Well sheeeiitt. I'm not an OCD, I just want to be able to out-range the guys that'll butt-rush a sniper's position in a matter of seconds and eliminate me before I can take a shot at them. So I have to save up for a few things... the KA chamber, the VSR barrel (which would you suggest?) and likely a hop-up upgrade... I'm glad I'm getting a G&G F2000 to use while I fix up my sniper :/

I tell ya, I'm glad I got it, just didn't expect such a huge job to get it going lol... Almost tempted to go for the ARES MS700 :/ lol

[Hectic]

DONT then youll be starting all over AND almost no upgrade parts work withthe ares even tho they try to say it takes VSR parts. Bjy a vsr or aps2 if you want a good BA. id suggest either EdGi (msg them on facebook) or prometheus for inner barrels.