Looking to buy a GBBR...ideas??

[Shaner]

Hey guys,

I've been thinking about buying a GBBR, but I am stuck on which to buy. I get most of my stuff from Toronto Airsoft. I have looked into the WE and King Arms M4's. The only real issue I have is the 30 round mags, although King Arms has a 50 rounder.

Anyone own either of these brands in a gas gun? Can you give me the low down?? Also, can anyone tell me if you can find 50 round mags for the WE gas guns?

Thanks

[lurkingknight]

you're buying a gas gun. low/realcap ammo is a feature, not an option. :P

[gettingshot]

I have 2 we gbbrs, an m4 cqbr and a scar, and so far I have been very happy. The only issues I have run into are leaky mags, but my generation 2 mags are holding strong. Definitely go for open bolt design if you choose a we gun. I was hesitant about the 30 round mags before I took the plunge but after playing a few times I find myself only loading about 40 rounds into aeg mags now ( it doesn't take long to learn how to conserve ammo!). We guns are the only gbbrs that I have any experience with but with researching common problems and knowing what to expect I would by another one if the wife allows it!

[uncle_benny12]

WE is coming out with a fixed dual AR magazine that will have an 80 round capacity:

http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/m...4-gas-magazine

Don't know too much about the KA GBBR platform, but it is very easy to get replacement and upgrade parts for the WE platforms, IMO that's a very important thing to keep in mind.

[Shaner]

Awesome...Thanks

[Rusty Lugnuts]

[QUOTE=uncle_benny12;1725539]WE is coming out with a fixed dual AR magazine that will have an 80 round capacity:

http://www.popularairsoft.com/news/m...4-gas-magazine

seemed more like 25 rounds to me

[tome]

You can also take a spacer out of the bottom of WE mags and make them 38 rounders. There's a video of how to do it on youtube I saw the other day.

[Rommen]

No one mentions the KJW M4? Seriously better than the WE imo...

OP check out KJ M4's, they are more reliable ootb and can be gotten new, all metal for around ~$400 with 2 mags. If you really want I can maybe do pros and cons of each later

[audi_bhoy]

KJW are good guns, just drop in a Cradle Velocity Reducer to adjust the FPS, and you're good to go. Mine has been running fine for 2 whole summers, I have 10 mags and none of them had leaked yet. There maybe less upgrade parts, that's because it doesn't need 'em

[Shaner]

Hey thanks for the update on the KJW M4's. Where did you purchase yours?

The offer of the Pros and cons is appreciated.

[audi_bhoy]

We can't point out "where to find airsoft guns" outside restricted sections, but since you're AV I suggest you look up the AV retailers, or the classifieds !

Here's my pro and con for the KJW...Rommen will surely add more !!

Major Cons of the KJW are:
Thermold mags
-Some people dislike their style
-They don't fit in some M4 pouches

Pros:
-Game ready out of the box (just add a Cradle Velocity Reducer for FPS) and you're good to go for many thousand rounds

[kullwarrior]

Three brands I would recommend:
(sort by alphabet)
KWA LM4
(+) Gas Efficiency
(+) US GI or P-Mag magazine
(+) Great kick
(+) Realistic finish
(+) No wobble handguard
(+) Steel internal (except trigger which is aluminum)
(+) FPS tuned to 380 @20-28C (Other two GBBR shoots about 450 at this temperature)
(-) Requires Bolt catch mod, or else bolt won't work in long run
(-) Hop-up max is 0.30g and a bit finiky. The actuator spring can wear out if your keep hop on for long periods
(-) Upper receiver rail wobbles
(-) Receiver is 3/16" shorter than actual AR-15
(-) Uncommon, relative rare in Canada compared to other system
KJW M4 Version I
(+) Gas Efficient
(+) Front set is compatible with AEG
(+) Reliable -despite using pot metal parts
(+) Bolt catch is a non-issue
(-) Handguard and stock wobbles quite a bit
(-) Metal Thermold magazine (thicker than GI magazine)
(-) Hopup max to 0.28g
(-) Weak recoil
(-) Glossy finish, unrealistic
WE M4 Open-Chamber
(+) Hardest kicking gun
(+) Lots of after market support
(+) Almost 100% compatiable with AR-15 (the ones are not are mainly due to legalities)
(+) Realistic finish, wicked awesome plastic external
(+) 20 & 30 US GI magazine available (30 rounds uses a shell, can be
fitted to customized AR-15 magazine ie PMAG)
(+) VSR type hopup
(+) Magazine compatible with other WE Open-Chamber system (L85, PDW, SCAR for example. AR-15 derivatives are also compatible)
(-) Not very gas efficient (vents liquid vapour out)
(-) Not the most reliable -compared to others
(-) Difficult to control FPS with tightbore barrel, aftermarket bucking running propane

[liver3rpool93]

I currently own a WE M14 and WE SCAR. I had a KWA M4 before. All three are great rifles, the KWA mags were better compared to the WE ones. Out of 8 WE mags I've owned, 7 had leaking issues lol. At least I got pretty handy with gasket maker If you're looking for a big ass rifle go for the M14...I've never run into any issues with it, it's an absolute blast to shoot. Functionality wise, the SCAR is my favourite (besides the leaks). Definitely go for the open bolt, aesthetically looks much better and is more reliable.

[tome]

For the WE there are now version 2 mags which use an internal design similar to the very leak-resistant KJW style. There are very good reports of these

Also with the KJW the v2 style bolt has proven to cause reliability issues. I'm not sure whether Cradle has his bolt styled after the v1 ready yet but if so, then it might be an idea to get that from the get go.

[FULLMETAL]

Inokatsu or Vipertech M4