WE p90 GBB

kullwarrior · December 6th, 2010, 21:29

I wish they actually have real spec magazine IE the circular part stick out the bottom.

Wonder if the ejection port is actually present at the bottom or is it completely closed circuit.

c3sk · December 6th, 2010, 21:36

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Originally Posted by Airmax

Ahh finally released a teaser. So far it looks good. But the question for me though is, Do I need a P90 GBBR to go along with my Tm p90? hmmm only time will tell. Still looks interesting though!
cheers

If you think about it, having both is a big bonus! Especially if you really enjoy the feel of that particular weapon. Then you would basically have your cold weather p90, and a warm weather p90.

Only downside that I find is, once you switch over to a GBBR, its very difficult to come back to an AEG. For me personally, airsoft guns just don't have very much appeal now, unless they go bang!

coach · December 6th, 2010, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Conker

That's not a real support weapon.

M249, M60, RPK and their respective variants, to name a few, ARE real support weapons. Dedicated support guns.

I'm hoping for a mk43 mod 0

Airmax · December 6th, 2010, 22:06

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Originally Posted by c3sk

If you think about it, having both is a big bonus! Especially if you really enjoy the feel of that particular weapon. Then you would basically have your cold weather p90, and a warm weather p90.

Only downside that I find is, once you switch over to a GBBR, its very difficult to come back to an AEG. For me personally, airsoft guns just don't have very much appeal now, unless they go bang!

That's true, but I don't foresee myself having issues with switching between the two considering I look at AEGs or GBBRs as tools of the trade. Either way I'll use them to get the job done plus having fun doing it. Does anyone know the Round count on the Gas mags by any chance?

Eeyore · December 6th, 2010, 22:29

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Originally Posted by Conker

That's not a real support weapon.

M249, M60, RPK and their respective variants, to name a few, ARE real support weapons. Dedicated support guns.

+1 buddy, I was shocked and horrified to have a G36 confused with a support gun.

Styrak · December 6th, 2010, 22:49

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Originally Posted by kullwarrior

I wish they actually have real spec magazine IE the circular part stick out the bottom.

What do you mean, exactly?

Thanh · December 6th, 2010, 22:59

awesome! I want one!

DarkAngel · December 6th, 2010, 23:00

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Originally Posted by coachster

I'm hoping for a mk43 mod 0

get in line.

Desmodus · December 6th, 2010, 23:00

Very interesting! I didn't think anyone would move on to make a P90 GBBR so soon. That recoil was disappointing as hell though...

redzaku · December 6th, 2010, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Con3jo

Very interesting! I didn't think anyone would move on to make a P90 GBBR so soon. That recoil was disappointing as hell though...

that is why its a prototype, they will iron the kinks out, maybe you should email them your ideas to put in it...
dream has came true... and at the same time having a deja vu about a GBB p90

Amos · December 7th, 2010, 00:48

I'm not sure if any of you have seen a real P90 fired... those things don't have much of a kick to them either..

YouTube - P-90 Demo

YouTube - P90 One Hand Shooting

MadMax · December 7th, 2010, 01:59

I've had the opportunity to shoot the FS2000 which is chambered for 556. 556 altogether is a low recoil controllable round, but on the FS2000 the recoil is really exceptionally controllable. I assume that total momentum transfer is the same (I still believe in conservation of momentum), but the felt recoil is significantly softer than shooting an AR chambered for the same round. It seems that the gun is very well sprung for the 556 so you get a more persistent push, with less crack when shooting. The compensator is very well tuned, which results in very little if any muzzle rise.

I also suspect that the low barrel axis of the P90 contributes in it's comparably low muzzle rise. If you look at an AR, the barrel axis is coaxial with the stock tube which is at the top of the shoulder pad, perhaps centred 1/5th from the top of the pad. On the P90, the barrel axis is about 1/3 from the top of the shoulder pad. The lower barrel axis on the P90 would reduce the torque applied while firing which would reduce muzzle climb.

If the shoulder was centred on the stock pad then the barrel axis would be about 1/6th above the shoulder centre on the P90 whereas on the M4 you'd be about 3/10ths from the barrel axis. If both rifles shot the same projectile at the same muzzle velocity, you'd see 1.8x more momentum related climb per shot if both rifles had the same height stock pad.

Now the tradeoff I see between arrangements (beyond mag location) is that it puts the sighting line higher from the barrel axis which means you have to expose more of your head when you shoot over barriers. You also get less stance between front and rear iron sights on the P90 because there isn't much barrel sticking forwards. The stance on a P90 iron sight is pretty short, not much longer than on a pistol. Still, they're well placed. I was easily plugging doubletaps at 100yd on a 1' steel plate. A bayonet might not work so well on a P90. All things being equal (we're both out of ammo) I'd rather charge with a bayonet on an M4 than on a P90

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DarkAngel · December 7th, 2010, 09:24

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Originally Posted by sortie39

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MilanWG · December 7th, 2010, 09:37

lol. a little off topic huh.

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December 6th, 2010, 21:29	#31
kullwarrior Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada	I wish they actually have real spec magazine IE the circular part stick out the bottom. Wonder if the ejection port is actually present at the bottom or is it completely closed circuit. __________________

December 6th, 2010, 23:00	#39
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December 7th, 2010, 00:48	#41
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	I'm not sure if any of you have seen a real P90 fired... those things don't have much of a kick to them either.. YouTube - P-90 Demo YouTube - P90 One Hand Shooting __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6 Last edited by Amos; December 7th, 2010 at 00:51..

December 6th, 2010, 22:59	#37
Thanh AKA Tsquared Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto	awesome! I want one!

December 7th, 2010, 01:59	#42
MadMax Delierious Designer of Dastardly Detonations Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: in the dark recesses of some metal chip filled machine shop	I've had the opportunity to shoot the FS2000 which is chambered for 556. 556 altogether is a low recoil controllable round, but on the FS2000 the recoil is really exceptionally controllable. I assume that total momentum transfer is the same (I still believe in conservation of momentum), but the felt recoil is significantly softer than shooting an AR chambered for the same round. It seems that the gun is very well sprung for the 556 so you get a more persistent push, with less crack when shooting. The compensator is very well tuned, which results in very little if any muzzle rise. I also suspect that the low barrel axis of the P90 contributes in it's comparably low muzzle rise. If you look at an AR, the barrel axis is coaxial with the stock tube which is at the top of the shoulder pad, perhaps centred 1/5th from the top of the pad. On the P90, the barrel axis is about 1/3 from the top of the shoulder pad. The lower barrel axis on the P90 would reduce the torque applied while firing which would reduce muzzle climb. If the shoulder was centred on the stock pad then the barrel axis would be about 1/6th above the shoulder centre on the P90 whereas on the M4 you'd be about 3/10ths from the barrel axis. If both rifles shot the same projectile at the same muzzle velocity, you'd see 1.8x more momentum related climb per shot if both rifles had the same height stock pad. Now the tradeoff I see between arrangements (beyond mag location) is that it puts the sighting line higher from the barrel axis which means you have to expose more of your head when you shoot over barriers. You also get less stance between front and rear iron sights on the P90 because there isn't much barrel sticking forwards. The stance on a P90 iron sight is pretty short, not much longer than on a pistol. Still, they're well placed. I was easily plugging doubletaps at 100yd on a 1' steel plate. A bayonet might not work so well on a P90. All things being equal (we're both out of ammo) I'd rather charge with a bayonet on an M4 than on a P90 __________________ Want nearly free GBB gas? Last edited by MadMax; December 7th, 2010 at 02:03..

December 7th, 2010, 02:33	#43
sortie39 Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary AB	wow,that nude dude is really erotic!~~

December 7th, 2010, 09:37	#45
MilanWG Perroz Designs Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, ON	lol. a little off topic huh. __________________ Last edited by MilanWG; December 7th, 2010 at 09:42..

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