Help: G&G UMG V3 problem

Skladfin · November 11th, 2009, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledor473

Okok then I will install the new one when I got it.
But it doesnt change the cycling problem... My piston dont stay forward after each shot, it stay at the middle of the brass tube. Do you think its the cause of the low FPS??

This is normal for ANY gun using ANY spring provided that the battery you are using is more than enough to pull the spring.

Only way to fix this problem is to get MOSFET with Active Braking, or you can install a stronger spring that the battery can barely pull.

I say go for the first option

ledor473 · November 11th, 2009, 22:33

Okok so if it's normal, I need to find another problem that explain the low fps...
Maybe the cylinder head is really the problem

Amos · November 12th, 2009, 03:21

Your cylinder head could be letting air by, or it could be your piston head.

ledor473 · November 19th, 2009, 20:56

I receive my sorbo pad, thanks for the awesome ARS's customer service and also thanks to Amos!

I also buy a Modify cylinder head and some grease form airsoftparts, should receive it next week I hope.

ledor473 · November 26th, 2009, 00:03

Great news, I receive my command today!

Bad news: I install everything I got, I go buy some white lithium grease, I grease it and it's still not working great....

Problems:
-Misfeed (way too much!): possibly the 9.6v Elite that I use?
-Low FPS (do not pierce a Pop Can)
-My hop-up seems to move a little bit more... maybe it can cause the misfeed but can't know how fix it...

Piece in the gearbox:
-Modify Cylinder Head
-Modify Anti-reversal latch
-Metal nozzel
-Orange piston head
-Normal brass Cylinder with a hole on the side
-Unknown brand irregular spring
-Everything else seems stock

Any idea? Any gundoc near Quebec City?

Amos · November 26th, 2009, 00:15

If you feel like shipping you could send it to me, I know V3 mechboxes very well.

However -- if it needs new parts it wont be cheap; Modify is the lowest quality brand that I use (and some people rank them #3 in the lists of top manufacturers lol)

ledor473 · November 26th, 2009, 00:31

Well, I have to admit that I would like to send it to you, I mean you seems trust-able but I don't have 1000$ to put in this UMG... If Modify is the cheapeast parts you use, I don't have necessary fund to handle it...

Well I probably have, but do I really want to put this in... the problem is: how much can it cost me? And the second one is that you need to see it to answer the first one

EDIT: If I dont solve the problem since the end of the winter you may receive a PM...

Amos · November 26th, 2009, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ledor473

Well, I have to admit that I would like to send it to you, I mean you seems trust-able but I don't have 1000$ to put in this UMG... If Modify is the cheapeast parts you use, I don't have necessary fund to handle it...

Well I probably have, but do I really want to put this in... the problem is: how much can it cost me? And the second one is that you need to see it to answer the first one

EDIT: If I dont solve the problem since the end of the winter you may receive a PM...

It wouldn't be $1000 lol the most expensive internal upgrades I can do with modify parts is around $300 and with labor if things take me 5 hours... which I highly doubt it would (normally takes me around 2-3 if I'm being thorough on a V3) total cost would be about $400 max.. and that's if I've got to upgrade everything inside it lol

ledor473 · November 26th, 2009, 01:03

Well I know that for you it's not very expensive but for me it is... I know you mean that it's gonna cost me less than that but....

Anyway I will think of that.... if another gundoc live closer, I will prefer him (only for the shipping cost, face-to-face deal, etc

)

Amos · November 26th, 2009, 03:12

Haha I'm a 20 year old college student! It's not like I'm some business CEO that drives around in Porche!

ThunderCactus · November 26th, 2009, 19:00

Could be the spring
I had a G&G UMG and it shot 160-220fps out of the box (but deadly accurate), and all the components sealed just fine.
I put a stock CA spring (that was shooting 305 in a CA M4) and it shot 280fps consistently

Crux · November 26th, 2009, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos

Haha I'm a 20 year old college student! It's not like I'm some business CEO that drives around in Porche!

Lmao!! Amos when I get my gun, when I get AVed tomorrow, you might be getting a PM to upgrade my guns internals... I won't have a clue what goes where.

ledor473 · November 26th, 2009, 21:31

@ThunderCactus: It's because when I receive it, it was shooting stronger, at least was going throw a pop can...

I'll try to find another spring and test again...

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November 11th, 2009, 22:33	#17
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	Okok so if it's normal, I need to find another problem that explain the low fps... Maybe the cylinder head is really the problem __________________ L

November 12th, 2009, 03:21	#18
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Your cylinder head could be letting air by, or it could be your piston head. __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

November 19th, 2009, 20:56	#19
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	I receive my sorbo pad, thanks for the awesome ARS's customer service and also thanks to Amos! I also buy a Modify cylinder head and some grease form airsoftparts, should receive it next week I hope. __________________ L Last edited by ledor473; November 19th, 2009 at 21:04..

November 26th, 2009, 00:03	#20
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	Great news, I receive my command today! Bad news: I install everything I got, I go buy some white lithium grease, I grease it and it's still not working great.... Problems: -Misfeed (way too much!): possibly the 9.6v Elite that I use? -Low FPS (do not pierce a Pop Can) -My hop-up seems to move a little bit more... maybe it can cause the misfeed but can't know how fix it... Piece in the gearbox: -Modify Cylinder Head -Modify Anti-reversal latch -Metal nozzel -Orange piston head -Normal brass Cylinder with a hole on the side -Unknown brand irregular spring -Everything else seems stock Any idea? Any gundoc near Quebec City? __________________ L Last edited by ledor473; November 26th, 2009 at 00:05..

November 26th, 2009, 00:15	#21
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	If you feel like shipping you could send it to me, I know V3 mechboxes very well. However -- if it needs new parts it wont be cheap; Modify is the lowest quality brand that I use (and some people rank them #3 in the lists of top manufacturers lol) __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

November 26th, 2009, 00:31	#22
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	Well, I have to admit that I would like to send it to you, I mean you seems trust-able but I don't have 1000$ to put in this UMG... If Modify is the cheapeast parts you use, I don't have necessary fund to handle it... Well I probably have, but do I really want to put this in... the problem is: how much can it cost me? And the second one is that you need to see it to answer the first one EDIT: If I dont solve the problem since the end of the winter you may receive a PM... __________________ L Last edited by ledor473; November 26th, 2009 at 00:33..

November 26th, 2009, 01:03	#24
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	Well I know that for you it's not very expensive but for me it is... I know you mean that it's gonna cost me less than that but.... Anyway I will think of that.... if another gundoc live closer, I will prefer him (only for the shipping cost, face-to-face deal, etc ) __________________ L

November 26th, 2009, 03:12	#25
Amos Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Japan	Haha I'm a 20 year old college student! It's not like I'm some business CEO that drives around in Porche! __________________ Custom Builds: FA3674U Krinkov G3SD6

November 26th, 2009, 19:00	#26
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Could be the spring I had a G&G UMG and it shot 160-220fps out of the box (but deadly accurate), and all the components sealed just fine. I put a stock CA spring (that was shooting 305 in a CA M4) and it shot 280fps consistently

November 26th, 2009, 21:31	#28
ledor473 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008	@ThunderCactus: It's because when I receive it, it was shooting stronger, at least was going throw a pop can... I'll try to find another spring and test again... __________________ L

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