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Old May 4th, 2009, 12:29   #4
Easy
 
Join Date: May 2009
Wink Beating the dead horse to death

I am new here so please forgive me if my post if it violates some rule I am not aware of.

The subject of BIOVAL BBBMAX has been beat to death over at Arnie's where the better part of 1000 posts and 10000 views have covered everything from biodegradability to Levante Lab's test.

The conclusion over there is that:

(1) Levante's credentials (or lack thereof) is really irrelevant. The point of lab tests is that they are presented in a way that anyone may repeat them in the same controlled lab environment and publish the test results. If they are different then a discussion may be initiated as to the merits of the tests themselves.

(2) The “G” word (glass) is so vague in scientific/physics that saying something is made of “some form of glass” is rather misleading. Glass is a process and most anything can be made into glass. It is simply a matter of cooling speed. Water and even polymers for example can be made into glass if the cooling process is done right. Furthermore a little investigating on Google Patents show a few patents for BIODEGRADABLE glass. I guess a more correct term would be AMORPHOUS SOLIDS. Most classes of solid materials can be found or prepared in an amorphous form. For instance, common window glass is an amorphous solid, many polymers (such as polystyrene) are amorphous, and even foods such as cotton candy are amorphous solids (Brittanica and Wikipedia).

(3) Biodegradability (the “B” word) is a term that can also be (mis)used in such a way as to create a lot of confusion. I can identify 3 different definitions: one is legal (with all its different national, regional connotations), another is based on international standards (ex. ISO 14855 etc etc) and lastly one that is set in the public mind. What does it mean to you? Your answer is not wrong in fact you will probably be able to find your own definition somewhere on the web or in a technical manual.

(4) Whether or not ANY bb is dangerous depends solely on the velocity and distance such a bb is fired period full stop. No bb has magical powers that suddenly come to life once such a bb leaves the barrel of an airsoft gun.

(5) Does the BIOVAL BBBMAX break glass (oops sorry, the amorphous solid used to make transparent panels in cars and houses)? Never tried. Not on our field. Point is who cares. It doesn’t break good quality ANSI/EN/MILSPEC ballistic eyewear and it doesn’t cause damage to gear or airsoft guns. Mesh goggles, God forbid! Those things are simply dangerous and completely banned here and should be banned everywhere. Why anyone would spend huge $ on gear and not spend good $ on protecting eyes and face is beyond me. I will leave that debate to another thread.

(6) There are plenty of pictures on the web and in the forums of normal plastic bbs breaking optics, celphones, teath and even skin. Vehicles on the field are illegal here because too many people have been hit or even run over by them. In fact, if you fire plastic bbs at the right speed and distance at a car window that window will eventually resonate and shatter.

We use BIOVAL BBB, BBBFLUO (tracer) and BBBMAX regularly and we are quite satisfied. In fact the BBBMAX is the best bb we have ever tried in any airsoft gun by far. Try it and if you don’t like it stop using it but don’t discount any transcendental powers simply because it is different! For sure it is better than any existing bbs by far! I guess that is what scares most bb producers.

I am also guessing that is why the motto for the BBBMAX in latin is, "Oderint Dum Metuant" (Let them Hate as Long as they Fear).

Last edited by Easy; May 4th, 2009 at 12:40..
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