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Old September 16th, 2008, 18:46   #12
Marriott
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Wiltshire/Near London, UK
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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister View Post
I wouldn't touch Pro Win unless a pro gun doc were to do it for me. They need a lot of assembly and I hear they need a lot of modifications to the body to get a correct fit.
They need alot of patience.... *First hand experience * I took up airsoft in august last year... and after 4-5 months i started work on my own kit and also embarked on a custom gun a few months ago. I didnt find it too hard to work on the PGC as i'm prety good at figuring things out, however you need to be patient, expect to void warenties, pull your hair out and always consider it a gamble that its all going to be fine untill its all up and running. But when it does - frigging awsome. I still havnt got the Spring release working smoothly on mine yet, but the rest appears to be working so far.

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister View Post
My CA M15 has a standard ratio gear set (stock CA) and a Prometheus MS110SP, running the stock CA motor through a 6.03mm tightbore and powered by a 9.6V 3800 mAh battery, I get 1320 rpm @ 385 fps.
Thats nearly identical to mine.

CA M15A4 SPC
Standard Gears
Prometheus POM pistonhead
Guarder Piston - Swapped out the CA but didnt need to as it was imaculate even after 80,000 bb's
Stock Motor
4200mAh Intellect Battery 9.6v
Prometheus MS110SP
Prometheus 6.03mm Tightbore

Also @ 22 rounds per seccond..


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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister View Post
Stock, CA internals should last a long time without issues. Tthe CA piston head leaves something to be desired.
I agree and the CA Yellow Piston is the most impressive part i have seen. As i mentioned 80k bb's and having near enough Zero wear on the piston ( I have photos somewhere as i was that amazed).. .The CA piston head is not very good tbh, but it does the job.

[QUOTE=TokyoSeven;819513]I totally suggest the PGC prowin. Im not gona lie, it can be very difficult to install depending on what brand of metal body you go with.[QUOTE]

Do you use a Pro-win also? The way you worded things makes it sound like you know how hard they are to install and setup.

From the questions being asked i would persoanlly say for ease... just get a Systema Turbo gearbox set.... It will cost like 1/3 or 1/4 of the price of building a Pro-Win with high end parts such as Prometheus internals.. I know this as i have one with the following specification below.

PGC 8mm Pro-win
Prometheus - Ball Bearing Spring Guide
Prometheus - POM Ball Bearing Piston Head
Prometheus - Prometheus MS110SP
Prometheus - High Speed Gears
Prometheus - Shims
Prometheus - Anti Reversal Latch
Prometheus - Hard Piston
Prometheus - Ported Cylinder

What level of work have you done on guns before? For this kind of questioning it would be worth letting us know a little background. A more informative suggestion could then be suggested, however i still think for what your after the Systema Turbo set would be the best option. It shoots 30rpm at 9.6v with the ready made set. Thats around 1800rpm... Use 8.4v to lower this down to the approx ROF your after. I think Red Wold Airsoft tried this setup with a 12v battery and the result is insane...

Hope this helps.
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