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Originally Posted by mcguyver
There are about 40 PTWs in Alberta, and that's the ones I know about. Probably more than that. And I've never heard, seen or know of anyone (other than you) who needed to adjust mag catches, or have these mystical crappy hop-ups.
The electronics are just as likely to fail in the MP5 as in the ARs. It's a fact of life. Accept it. No get to the easy changing of it in the MP5. Wait, let's tear down the whole gun!! Bullshit, pure and simple.
The current PTW has a good track record of running the M150, reliably. No other gun does it. I use the M150, many others do all over the world. This set-up as shown will not.
If Systema is expecting raves from showing pics of average-looking parts in a top-shelf (for price anyways) gun, good luck with that. Current PTW-owners will not be and aren't impressed by this gun. If you can honestly say you are impressed by this gun, I call BS on you. I know you're smarter than that!!!
You expect a certain level of engineering and thought, and you certainly expect them to bring their game up to the next level, and they've fallen very short indeed.
And, I'm not odd, I'm a realist.
http://forums2.blacksierra.net/viewtopic.php?t=209
Read the text.
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i'm going to go ahead and believe kumi on this one

what's so big about having planetary gears when they don't feel confident enough with the max build to sell it with m170 springs, but they do it with every v2 magnum gearbox set? who says you need helical gears for running m150? they specifically said that there'll be a max mp5 later, so this version is obviously not designed to handle m150 cylinders just like the gen3 m4's. does that make it shit? you're running on complete speculation, the systema m4 is a VERY wasteful build, they probably figured out where they're wasting money and are making a less gimicky gun (awwww sorry, did you like all those pretty little gears?) with the same performance, perhaps even with some interesting features like piston lock-back so you can enjoy real steel rof with instant trigger response. i've still got my fingers crossed for REAL HOPUP though. ptw hopup is ok, but nowhere near as good as tm; i don't care how much you spent on your guns, the sooner you come to terms with real facts, the sooner you'll stop polluting these boards with your voodoo blahblah.
i'm all for the new placement of the electronic boards. the fet board is nice and stashed away from sliding batteries and yanking cords and is properly heatsinked (noticed how in the 2008 m4 ptw's they put a heatsink around it, meaning that in all likelihood it IS AN ISSUE and is not god's perfect face in the form of an airsoft gun). i'm crossing my fingers that the optical gate/trigger switch board has also been changed because of the frequency of it failing. fast access to electronics that arent supposed to break IS NOT A FEATURE.
personally i see no solid reason for this gun not being fantastic (other than no sliding stock



). it's an mp5 (the tm based version is one of their oldest designs and has seen almost 0 revision by the companies that cloned it) that was designed from the ground up with knowledge gained from making the most advanced aeg to date. i'm pretty sure they know more about blinding errors than mcguyver here can speculate from images of a prototype. also, the cylinder gripes here make no sense. not to mention that it weighs 4kg and has working burst! two things we havent seen on an mp5 to date yet, plus they seem to be made as value guns so there hasnt been a REALLY nice one made yet. color me excited, i really like mp5s.
where does it even say that theyre only keeping the parts you named? looks like all you need to do might be simply extend the window in the cylinder which is as simple to them as punching in some numbers on their cnc machine. if this is the only change necessary then the cylinders will be backwards compatible with their m4 series.
now just one more time because it was so goddamn good:
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Originally Posted by mcguyver
And, I'm not odd, I'm a realist.
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