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Good luck finding one. If you do, it'll probably be around $500-$700. They are pretty big and have room to add pouches. There is quite a bit of padding on them so they're comfortable. I've heard them reffered to as the "large pack". I've seen one and tried it on somewhere but I can't remember where. It may have been at the auto show or something in one of the military displays. Maybe it was the EX. Whatever. Nice pack in my opinion.
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