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Showe22 · June 14th, 2016, 14:48

I am trying to find a back up primary for when my 416 goes down because, inevitably, all guns break at some point. My budget would be max $1000

I enjoy being a special snowflake kind of person. I like something visually different, such as the 416 over an M4. In the past, I've owned an MP5, M14, M16, 417, M27 and a few M4 styles.

Here's what I'm looking for in a new gun:
- fairly reliable
- access to parts when it breaks
- AEG
- DMR platform*
- higher quality such as VFC, KWA, Krytac etc.
- mosfet*

*these are not deal breakers, but certainly influences my choice.

In my research, I've looked into three rifles.

1. Krytac LVOA
I like the externals, and I love the RIS length. It definitely suits my DMR obsession. My 416 will outshoot the Krytac, but thats ok with me. It would be a back up.

I've heard this gun can be tough to fix, or hard to find parts for. I can't verify that information myself. If anyone else can, I'd appreciate the help.

2. Umarex HK 417
I would be looking for the umarex version, and not the chinese clone. This would cost roughly the same as a Krytac LVOA. I've had the 417 before but regret selling it. I've got two mags for it sitting in my mag bin. Again, I love the DMR platform.

I've heard that the gearbox can crack easily. Since the gearbox is specific to the 417, it would be hard to find a replacement.

3. Elite Force/Umarex G28 special edition
This is the limit of my budget, and the only reason I'm willing to spend over a grand. I've heard it has a reinforced gearbox, rendering one of the bigger issues in the 417 null. The special edition includes all the pretty accessories, but my attention is caught by the upgraded internals (7 metal teeth on the piston, tienly motor, etc.)

Have a suggestion? I'd love to hear! If any of my information is wrong, let me know with some sort of reference I can look up.

June 14th, 2016, 14:48	#1
Showe22 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2014	Halp! Looking for a back up primary I am trying to find a back up primary for when my 416 goes down because, inevitably, all guns break at some point. My budget would be max $1000 I enjoy being a special snowflake kind of person. I like something visually different, such as the 416 over an M4. In the past, I've owned an MP5, M14, M16, 417, M27 and a few M4 styles. Here's what I'm looking for in a new gun: - fairly reliable - access to parts when it breaks - AEG - DMR platform* - higher quality such as VFC, KWA, Krytac etc. - mosfet* *these are not deal breakers, but certainly influences my choice. In my research, I've looked into three rifles. 1. Krytac LVOA I like the externals, and I love the RIS length. It definitely suits my DMR obsession. My 416 will outshoot the Krytac, but thats ok with me. It would be a back up. I've heard this gun can be tough to fix, or hard to find parts for. I can't verify that information myself. If anyone else can, I'd appreciate the help. 2. Umarex HK 417 I would be looking for the umarex version, and not the chinese clone. This would cost roughly the same as a Krytac LVOA. I've had the 417 before but regret selling it. I've got two mags for it sitting in my mag bin. Again, I love the DMR platform. I've heard that the gearbox can crack easily. Since the gearbox is specific to the 417, it would be hard to find a replacement. 3. Elite Force/Umarex G28 special edition This is the limit of my budget, and the only reason I'm willing to spend over a grand. I've heard it has a reinforced gearbox, rendering one of the bigger issues in the 417 null. The special edition includes all the pretty accessories, but my attention is caught by the upgraded internals (7 metal teeth on the piston, tienly motor, etc.) Have a suggestion? I'd love to hear! If any of my information is wrong, let me know with some sort of reference I can look up.