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Old March 22nd, 2011, 11:21   #980
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Originally Posted by fyra View Post
Oh, I see your point. I was referring to the NOVA kit as being former and PGC/Pro-Win the latter.

From what I've seen, the NOVA kit has a bit more blue-ish tone to it, while the PGC/Pro-Win has a more smooth, black finish.

I can be all wrong here, it's just my experience.
Okay, I gotcha.

How are you achieving these impressions? Are you seeing them in person? Or are you basing it off web photos?

In my experience of having both under my hands in a colour correction room (I'm a photographer and designer by trade), the PGC/Pro-Win kits actually have a very slight purple to the black colour. The overall finish is also very smooth and almost semi-gloss. This is not necessarily bad, as it perfectly matches the Tokyo Marui OEM controls.

The Nova kit, on the other hand, has a very flat/matte surface finish. The tone and shade result is not the same as the Tokyo Marui OEM controls/components. This can be resolved if you are planning on upgrading to Nova equivalent steel parts.

You are correct in noticing a slight blue shade to the colour of the Nova kits, but as a point of realism: real guns also have a blue tint when they are "blued." The only difference, is that a blued gun is generally glossy, whereas this is matte. I believe there are ways to matte a blued gun, but it is not as common as leaving the polished black look to it.

For those reasons, as well as issues on fitment, overall look and dimensions, I would personally choose Nova over PGC/Pro-Win.

Nova kits have a very flat black finish with a slight lean towards blue.

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Originally Posted by pezk1ng View Post
Hello everyone,
I have a spare WE Baby Hi-Capa 3.8 lying around and I was thinking of converting it into a 5.1. I was trying to come with the parts I would need and came up with some unanswered questions...
So obviously I would need a 5.1 slide, full-size outer + inner barrel and full-size recoil guide + spring. Do I need to change any of the slide internals? BBU, loading nozzle, hop-up unit/housing, anything?

Also I want to install a full-size grip. The one on it now should just come of like any other Hi-Capa grip (haven't tried it yet), question is do I need a different trigger sear spring? What about the grip safety, will that fit a full-sized grip or do I need a longer/bigger one? Same question goes for the hammer spring/mechanism. (I know that I will need to use the magazine from either a 4.3 or a 5.1)
You would need:

- Slide
- Recoil Rod Bushing
- Front/Rear Sights
- Outer Barrel
- Inner Barrel
- Recoil Rod
- Recoil Spring
- Receiver
- Grip
- Main Spring Housing
- Any other controls

The parts list is significant enough that I'd probably just recommend buying a second pistol as a 5.1 to begin with.

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Originally Posted by pezk1ng View Post
And while I'm at asking questions: Are the trigger and the hammer spring housing that come with the Tanio Koba grip set plastic or a metal?
It's die-cast aluminum. I personally don't like them, as the edges are rough.
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