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Originally Posted by TnT_13
Ok, as if someone right off the bat didn't comment they had recently had a Bastard break apart during close range testing, and you wouldn't dare call a Bastard a "crappy .12 would you? Sorry to bust your bubble, but plastic isn't made of invincible materials, and while they have less tendency to break, it can and DOES still happen. I've also heard of FULL BB's getting through mesh googles, take a hot gun at close range, and you increase the chance of this occurring. And when I say plastic doesn't bio-degrade, that is science, I'm not talking out of my ass, do some reading/research and learn some FACTS. "No one has said its an immediate danger". Well neither was lead in your gasoline, or Asbestos in your walls, or fluorine in your toothpaste...
Crappy bio BB's do have a tendency to jam in guns. Guess what, so do crappy plastic BB's. This is why we have reviews and test products, and don't lump all things Bio into the 'crappy' pile. That's what you call jumping to conclusions. That is what silly people with a hindered ability to think logically do. There are some very good Bio BB's available, and as time goes on, they will be more accessible and made even better.
And on your last point, guess what. Every time you play outdoors and shoot hundreds of BB's around, your essentially littering. It's actually Illegal. Are you ever going to get a ticket, or care about it? A ticket, highly unlikely; and as far as caring, clearly not you, or the vast majority of airsofters. But that is what your doing, spewing garbage around and not bothering to clean it up. Times and attitudes are changing my friends, and while "no one" (I do) cares about it now, I ask; Why not be pro-active and show the airsoft community is ahead of the game as far as being enviromentally responsible? Why wait until it becomes another black mark on our sport?
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I don't think anyone here has a fundemental issue against bio-BBs, but you have to understand that they have a bad reputation because of previous bad products, either performance wise or being of dubious enviromental quality.
Furthermore, companies like Bioval have tried to pull various shenanigans here and in other forums, basically claiming that their product was made of the stuff of legends, engineered by Einstein himself and being the end-all be-all solution to stuff like world hunger and AIDS.
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A very real and relevant issue with the claims of Bioval and others is the science that backs them. In the case of Bioval, the Levente (Levante?) lab report is of sketchy value, since peer review is basically impossible, being shrouded in secrets and all. We aren't all just a bunch of rednecks, verifiable science is an important issue in cases like this.
Besides, some (me included) will brush off the enviromental issues of plastic BBs since the plastics used will remain more or less inert for their life, however long it may be. As I said, the impact of of other factors involved in the acquisition and use of the tools of our hobby are largely more noticeable.
Is it a bad thing to use plastic BBs? Perhaps, but then again, everything we do has a carbon footprint attached to it. From my point of view, the devil is not really in the details, but in the large, glaring issues like the car you drive, the food items you consume and other major every day decisions.
I either bike or bus my way to most places, I recycle where it makes sense, defend green issues at work and all that crap. Hell, I switched from CO2 to HPA for my paintball setup just to reduce my carbon product use.
Plastic BBs are one of the last things that might keep me up at night, not because I ''don't care'', but because I prefer to defend more relevant issues.
This being said, I have around 10k Madbull bio .25's that I hope to test out soon. If they perform well I might switch, but trying to guilt trip me into the whole bio thing will only piss me off.
As a little parting gift, two relevant Penn and Teller's Bullshit episodes!
http://www.surfthechannel.com/episode/2749/48394.html
http://www.surfthechannel.com/episode/2749/48371.html