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m102404 · July 22nd, 2009, 21:37

Hang on a sec...I never said you can't swap out all the parts...I have not done so, I have not tried it. (edit...Oh, I see Redwolf's thing now...)

My main point is/was: "You can swap out all the parts on a clone and still be left with something that is subpar compared to the original"

Think D-boys bodies. Look good right? Priced awesome compared to "good" ones (i.e. G&P, CA, KA, etc...). How many people struggled with the 1st, 2nd, maybe 3rd gen to get them to fit well with AEGs? The first gen were utter crap.

My other point is/was: "Sometimes you can swap out all the innards of a crappy/clone AEG and turn it into something useful...but if you can't (and this is pure speculation), because of tolerance differences in stuff you can't easily change, then you could end up FUBAR'd"

Here's an example:
- a guy brought me a big box of parts and said, "turn it into a shooting AEG". All the parts were there, they individually looked ok, but when assembled it was a crooked stick (the stock/body/front end/barrel zig-zagged as you looked down it). Those are parts that are just plain off-square, and I don't know how many people try to square up a barrel/receiver, but it's no easy task. They were each only out of true a little. But put a bunch of slightly different pieces together and you end up with something way, way less that nice. It still cost him way less than a decent AEG at the time...but was it worth it? Not to me (sorry buddy who shall not be named).

That's what I'm getting at.

Even if you replace all the so-so/shoddy parts (if there are any) in this clone...and if you run into issues with receiver/trigger-hammer/bolt alignment you could be banging your head against the wall. $1000 in or $300 in...it's not fun either way. Regardless if it's a $20 mount or a $2000 PTW...I just want it to work well, or at least well enough that I can fix it up with confidence...a lot of guys don't even want to fix things up regardless of price.

GBBs are fiddly...I can't imagine GBBR's as a whole being concrete-bunker-bullet-proof.

July 22nd, 2009, 21:37	#15
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Hang on a sec...I never said you can't swap out all the parts...I have not done so, I have not tried it. (edit...Oh, I see Redwolf's thing now...) My main point is/was: "You can swap out all the parts on a clone and still be left with something that is subpar compared to the original" Think D-boys bodies. Look good right? Priced awesome compared to "good" ones (i.e. G&P, CA, KA, etc...). How many people struggled with the 1st, 2nd, maybe 3rd gen to get them to fit well with AEGs? The first gen were utter crap. My other point is/was: "Sometimes you can swap out all the innards of a crappy/clone AEG and turn it into something useful...but if you can't (and this is pure speculation), because of tolerance differences in stuff you can't easily change, then you could end up FUBAR'd" Here's an example: - a guy brought me a big box of parts and said, "turn it into a shooting AEG". All the parts were there, they individually looked ok, but when assembled it was a crooked stick (the stock/body/front end/barrel zig-zagged as you looked down it). Those are parts that are just plain off-square, and I don't know how many people try to square up a barrel/receiver, but it's no easy task. They were each only out of true a little. But put a bunch of slightly different pieces together and you end up with something way, way less that nice. It still cost him way less than a decent AEG at the time...but was it worth it? Not to me (sorry buddy who shall not be named). That's what I'm getting at. Even if you replace all the so-so/shoddy parts (if there are any) in this clone...and if you run into issues with receiver/trigger-hammer/bolt alignment you could be banging your head against the wall. $1000 in or $300 in...it's not fun either way. Regardless if it's a $20 mount or a $2000 PTW...I just want it to work well, or at least well enough that I can fix it up with confidence...a lot of guys don't even want to fix things up regardless of price. GBBs are fiddly...I can't imagine GBBR's as a whole being concrete-bunker-bullet-proof.