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Double Tapper January 24th, 2009 04:56

G&P M4 GBB
 
For those that have not been following,G&P have up graded
the WA M4.Here is a post RA-tech put up on Arnies.

Dear All,

This is Henry Wang of RA-TECH.
We just get the G&P and we can`t wait to share the video with you! =]

Test Video 1:
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=WD4L_Z...eature=channel
It`s playing with original parts.

Video 2:
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=SQMm9K...eature=channel
The second video, we install our parts into the G&P M4.
I hope you like our presentation!

Best regards,

Henry Wang
RA-TECH Customer Service

Capt.Flan January 24th, 2009 11:39

:)

This is where airsoft is going to I guess. Prepare to get gas guns in the future IMO.

Rookie Ab January 24th, 2009 13:56

OH ya,I can't wait for someone on here to start stocking these (and :rolleyes: lots of accessories )

jesster202 January 24th, 2009 14:22

i personaly cant wait for theys

Double Tapper January 24th, 2009 14:28

They are the up graded WA's,and they are suppose to be a lot
cheaper to buy.Link is a list of their GBB units.

http://www.gp-web.com/en/products.ph...WEB&bid=WOC_AG

Conscript January 24th, 2009 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Flan (Post 904227)
:)

This is where airsoft is going to I guess. Prepare to get gas guns in the future IMO.

Are you kidding me? This is a step backward. You don't know anything about the evolution of airsoft do you. There was a reason why the AEG replaced gas guns 18 years ago.

Nothing will ever replace an AEG in terms of skirmish ability.

pusangani January 24th, 2009 14:38

hhehehe noobs, gas guns are old school, try playing outside in the winter with one of these, no way that can beat an aeg, but it is awful kool tho and must be fun to shoot, gbb rifles are great for chairsofters but for actual gaming, not very practical unless u have a ton of cash for a full mag loadout or running an external air rig, then you look like a ghost buster

Shirley January 24th, 2009 14:46

That's deadly.

pusangani January 24th, 2009 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman (Post 904335)
That's deadly.

that's because it's "CUSTOMELIZED"

hehehehhe

Double Tapper January 24th, 2009 14:55

Well I'm not much for playing in winter any more,and it would make
a nice collection piece(s).And gas does suck during the winter,my
first game was with a GBB pistol in March,it was all I had,but was
still fun.Everything has it's draw backs,Gbb's it's cold weather,AEG's
it's fuses,gears,springs,pistons,Batt's and motors,and lets not forget
the biggest one,WATER.So all in all,I enjoy both of them without
knocking the other,it all depends on the players choice.:cool:

ILLusion January 24th, 2009 15:16

Is it a good thing or bad thing that there is no flute valve? What is the purpose of the flute valve?

aZn_triXta07 January 24th, 2009 15:17

Accuracy an AEG will always win.

Realism. GBB wins there's nothing realistic about a sewing machine.

Personally I prefer maintaining a GBB so much LESS hassles IMO.
If they can get these magazines to work with HPA you'll be seeing these guns in the winter.

It's the only one thing the Classics ever had that was good, just that nobody wanted to be carrying around a tank with a hose sticking out.

Rookie Ab January 24th, 2009 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 904354)
Is it a good thing or bad thing that there is no flute valve? What is the purpose of the flute valve?

If I understand it correctly the flute valve is located in that feeding nosel 'when the bb is pushed up the feed ramp into the chamber the valve is pushed against the bb,when the bolt if closed, holding the port open for the gas to push the bb down the barrel.When the bb leaves,then the valve closes (no contact to the bb) and the rest of the gas charge is used to drive the bolt carrier to the rear.The problem seems to be on some of the guns,the bb gets pushed too far into the chamber (past the hopup) so the valve make no contact.stays closed ,diverting all the gas to the bolt carrier to cycle the gun.Opps ,now we have 2 bbs in the gun (unless the first one rolled out of the barrel).
From what I hear Inokatso ,has made the same change to their new bolts.

This is my take on what I've heard :rolleyes:

ILLusion January 24th, 2009 16:38

I see, so then it acts just like a reed valve / floating valve / cylinder bulb in GBB pistols, and this one works on exactly the same principals as WA GBB pistols.

Hmm... I'm sure the system can be refined - if WA pistols can do it, a rifle should be able to as well.

I know RA-Tech has a new/modified hop up chamber/unit that holds the BB in better. I wonder if that might solve the issue... there seems to be very little information about what all these new RA-Tech products actually DO.


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