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BORDENSNIPER June 9th, 2008 10:53

TF 16 (Tactical Force 16)
 
So I was roaming Bass Pro's when I saw the Tf16 this looking at me and asking me to buy it...

Upon arriving home I opened this Hybrid of a clearsoft and an Airsoft and got down to testing it.

The results and impressions:

The Cons and sort-of-cons,

-the main body is clear and not made from the type of plastic that for example the TM g36c is, however, it holds up if you don’t abuse and bang the gun on walls or ground when during play.

- the quad rails and the fore grip are plastic. They are pretty solid though, a word of advise is if you get the TF16 switch the positions of the top of the fore grip with the bottom. What that does is completely eliminate any movement and makes it a solid piece.
- The flashider is red, nothing that good old paint can wont cover up…
- The Crane stock, although very well made and solid, does have some back and forth movement (around 2mm) when locked into any of the 3 positions (3 position stock).
- The batteries aren’t bad if you are using them as an emergency power supply in case you are screwed during a game, otherwise I don’t recommend using it. I’m going to buy intellect ones soon and update the performance difference it has on the gun.

Pros

- The gearbox is a V2, or at least a very very good clone of it, it is from the looks of it compatible with TM and CA parts. I had no problem replacing swapping with a CA spring guide and pump. I wouldn’t recommend replacing anything though ( I only did it to see if its compatible) because the gearbox is actually in my opinion better than a stock CA M15A4.
- The box advertises 380 fps, I ran it through a chrony and got 378+ with 12 grams, and 363-368 with 20grams. Either way shoots harder than stock TM or CA gearboxes.
- I didn’t feel comfortable taking the hop-up out but its working well so far, the backspin is very good and after about 500 bb’s had very little impact on readjusting the hop up. (the little plastic gears to adjust the hop up do not move mach and are actually very solid and take some effort to move them).
- The rail on the top receiver is metal, good stuff, it also acts as a brace to hold the top receiver together, very smart on the manufacturers part.
- The plat that holds the motor the grip is also metal.
- The barrel looks like a brass one, and has an aluminum tube holding it in place.
- When you cock the cocking leaver ejection port opens, cock it a second time, and the hop up adjustment gets exposed, pretty neat.
- Splits in half like the real thing.
-gun comes with a vertical grip, which I don’t recommend using since the rails are plastic, a nice hard pull and something is bound to break. So how is the vertical grip a pro? You can use it on your primary shooters, since it will hold up good.

Overall impressions.

For 130 bucks after tax, Im impressed.

This thing can definitely serve as a backup and even a primary if you are doing some CQB all day. It is pretty solid and will make you happy you spent only 130 on it since you get quiet a bit for the money.

Viewing from another angle….A compatible V2 which does a nice 363-368fps can be used on one of your TM’s or a CA series, so if this one breaks, you have a solid mechbox to use, even for a project if youd like.

If the body cracks, or breaks, looks at what you have,
- V2 mechbox
- Metal rail,
- Crane stock
- Vertical grip
- A plastic mag
- And a barrel,
All these things would cost you more to buy than the gun itself, so definitely worth it.


Conclusively, a good backup gun, even a project/parts gun, can also be used for primary play (if you want to tag a friend along and let them use it).

performance 8.5/10
body 5/10
insides 8.5/10
price 10/10
fps 10/10 (comparined to other stock tm and ca airsoft guns.

Il post a video up on you tube hopefully soon, along with pictures.

Im getting a CA m15 soon ( I had two last year and were great shooters), Il run a full compatibility test on those and update the page.




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Cheers.

ancorp June 9th, 2008 11:13

Good to see youre still alive and kickin' mate ;)

FYI TM guns fire around 280 out of the box for most regular AEGs, so yours fires below that.

Also - pictures please!

Cheers,
Alex

BORDENSNIPER June 9th, 2008 12:05

CORRECTION
 
CORRECTION!!!!!!!!!!!!

it fires 363-368fps

The Saint June 9th, 2008 12:07

The corrected number makes a lot more sense. Price?

BORDENSNIPER June 9th, 2008 12:10

130
 
good price

Skladfin June 15th, 2008 17:14

nice review, Im considering one of those ...

please tell us of any more updates!

paramedic June 15th, 2008 22:59

where did you grab this gun for 130 plus tax?

EDIT: stupid question, no idea how I passed the ontario literacy test

BORDENSNIPER June 16th, 2008 20:52

ok, so the battery is shit confirmed since it kept jamming the gun (spring wouldnt release),

so i used the crackens battery also shit but works for now to test the upgrades.

i bought a large crane stock batt (thanks to Huang), and shoved it in, that thing isnt coming out lol so il be charging it inside the stocl lolz.

I upgraded the nozzle so far, to a double inner o-ring accuracy improved greatly.

plans:

-ball bearings
-polycarbonare piston
-ball bearing spring guide

updates will follow.

ancorp June 16th, 2008 21:15

Just get metal bushings, not bearings. I hear they don't last.

kalnaren June 17th, 2008 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetG (Post 745115)
Hey, I purchased this gun yesterday.
Got home at around 6:15pm. Read the instructions/Played with the gun a little.
At around 7:00pm I started charging the battery. I set my alarm clock at 1:00am to remove the battery. Once I did that, I went back to sleep. Now (8:52am) I placed the battery in the gun, put it on full-auto, held the trigger but.. it doesn't seem to work ;\ Is it a broken fuse ? Please help me :) It's my first airsoft rifle.

You might want to post this in the doctor's corner instead of muddling up a review thread with it.

BORDENSNIPER June 17th, 2008 20:24

not awsome yet....

just swap some parts and itll equal to alittle better than stock TM.

-metal bushings
-bearing spring guide
-polycarbonate piston w/h piston head (bearing)
-ca hop up unit or a pro win.
-nozzle

and obviously a brand new battery and charger.

paint it...

LeetG June 17th, 2008 20:50

Does your gun double feed when it's on Semi-Auto ?
Oh btw, I got a full black one :)
It's pretty sweet.

BORDENSNIPER June 17th, 2008 20:57

no.

it shouldnt.

BORDENSNIPER June 17th, 2008 23:03

grab it by the tip of the barrel, and hit it against the ground like a rockstart would toa guitar. It will reveal the tactical insides lolz.

DONT DO THAT!

but for real, heres wat u do:

1 there are 2 pins located on the almost middle of the gun body, push them out.

then grab on to the top recievers rails, and pull up HARD. the top reciever should come off.

from there do whatever u want.

kalnaren June 18th, 2008 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeetG (Post 746578)
I opened it up, there's nothing wrong with the interiors.
I think it's the magazine.
How do you know when you wind it too much ?
I put it on semi and it sometimes shoots 2 bb's -.- and the second one flies out of the way from where I'm pointing at.
It's annoying >.<

You can't overwind a magazine. And that actually doesn't sound like a magazine problem. It sounds more like an alignment problem with the hop-up.


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