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BBS February 13th, 2008 22:30

Slow motion camera + GBB
 
i've always wanted to see what happens

YouTube - Airsoft GBB slow motion

YouTube - Airsoft GBB slow motion 2

hope its not a repost. enjoy.

ChiefInTrees February 13th, 2008 22:33

nice find. Hicapa is hawt

arman February 13th, 2008 23:02

!!!SEXYTIME!!!

KEVORKIAN February 13th, 2008 23:20

That's about as fast as a GBB on duster performs !!!

Shinjin_MC February 13th, 2008 23:23

was always wondering if koba's 'pre shoot' system really resulted in zero slide movement until the bb leaves the barrel

looks like a few miliseconds before the bb leaves the slide starts to shimmy just very slightly

Andres February 13th, 2008 23:24

Finally... neat stuff.

skalnok February 14th, 2008 00:25

sweet

video = sexy time

hattrick February 14th, 2008 00:32

thead jack, who wants one of these? (Group order perhaps?)

YouTube - P-90 rubberband edition gun

LUTNIT February 14th, 2008 00:58

Black and white and grainy...would be nicer if someone had access to the new Casio camera. Can take 6MP pics at 60fps and digital video at up to 1200fps, normal TV broadcasts and such are usually 26 or 29 point something fps.

MadMax February 14th, 2008 01:00

Very interesting videos. Video two appears to show the slide recoiling before the bb leaves the barrel. There may be a case for stretching the reed valve spring a bit to retard the blowback phase a bit to space out the fire and recoil phases more.

ILLusion February 14th, 2008 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjin_MC (Post 642834)
was always wondering if koba's 'pre shoot' system really resulted in zero slide movement until the bb leaves the barrel

looks like a few miliseconds before the bb leaves the slide starts to shimmy just very slightly

That's essentially how almost all modern GBB's work: The cycling process doesn't actually begin until the projectile leaves the barrel, at which point a negative pressure is created in the barrel, causing the floating/rocket/reed valve to close and transferring the gas to the blowback system.

Real steel is based on a similar system.

Neat video, though. Good to see that the system functions as theorized.

The Saint February 14th, 2008 19:02

So does this mean reports of enhanced recoil spring resulting in increased fps are flukes or misunderstandings?

Styrak February 14th, 2008 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinjin_MC (Post 642834)
was always wondering if koba's 'pre shoot' system really resulted in zero slide movement until the bb leaves the barrel

looks like a few miliseconds before the bb leaves the slide starts to shimmy just very slightly

Just like real guns...

ILLusion February 14th, 2008 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saint (Post 643334)
So does this mean reports of enhanced recoil spring resulting in increased fps are flukes or misunderstandings?

Yeah, whoever says that has no idea what they're talking about, unless they're using an OOOOOOOOLD classic GBB system that fires gas in to both areas of the gun at the same time. I haven't seen a gun do that since MGC's guns back in the late 80s/very early 90s.

MadMax February 14th, 2008 20:47

Actually almost every GBB partially pressurizes the blowback mechanism before they snap into recoil mode. Only Magna GBBs have a distinct pressurization of only the breech or recoil pneumatics. Even recent TM GBBs have a mid station reed valve which snaps forward. In the rearwards position, gas pressure is applied to the recoil assembly. If it didn't, there would be no pressure to shove the reed valve forward when breech pressure dropped.

If that video is of a TM hicapa, I'd say that the reed valve wasn't stiff enough. It looks like the slide starts its recoil just before the pellet exits the barrel in the 2nd video.


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