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Damned September 9th, 2007 10:33

Gas shotgun shell idea.
 
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I got around to thinking about this after finding out that most airsoft shotguns dont fire many bbs per shot, which was dissapointing to tell the truth.

Anyways, this is just a rough example of what i was thinking about, and i would appreciate any and all imput on the feasability of this system.

Its very similar to a gas shower greanade, but small scale, basically, but im considering making a prototype ( just for something to do, mostly) but also to see whats what.

anyways, post away!

*e* the spidery looking thing is the firing pin. i dont know any dimentions of the shells themselves, or anything else id need to know about it to make one, so feel free to point things out to me lol

Donster September 9th, 2007 11:07

this is a great idea. i love doing stuff like this myself. when i first started paintball, i hated the idea of a hopper, so i designed a magazine fed paintball gun on paper. it was interesting to see hoew my idea didn't stray too far from the market ones such as RAP4. i hope you take your idea far. the only thing i see as being a problem is loading them. it would take a little bit longer. however, it is a shotgun, and this is much more realistic than the current shotgun shells which only fire one BB/shot. good luck on the project.

Skruface September 9th, 2007 11:43

http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...mini%20moscart
http://store.matrixbb.com/servlet/-s...-barrel/Detail

FAIL.

Has existed for >2 years already.

Damned September 9th, 2007 11:53

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Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 533498)

how very contructive of you. You will however notice that, as i pointed out, the mad max shotgun fire a whopping 6 bbs per shell, and the moscart is a grenade.

what i explained and described with diagrams is a shotgun shell that fires a lot more.

if you would like to comment further, dont.


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Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 533484)
this is a great idea. i love doing stuff like this myself. when i first started paintball, i hated the idea of a hopper, so i designed a magazine fed paintball gun on paper. it was interesting to see hoew my idea didn't stray too far from the market ones such as RAP4. i hope you take your idea far. the only thing i see as being a problem is loading them. it would take a little bit longer. however, it is a shotgun, and this is much more realistic than the current shotgun shells which only fire one BB/shot. good luck on the project.


i thought of this after posting, a simple loader with 8 funnels to fill each shell would cut down refill time, ill probly sketch something later

hattrick September 9th, 2007 12:03

Take it from me, skruface knows what hes talking about.

You are talking about inventing a shell compatible with an already made shotgun (you've yet to mention the model or make)

Having the gas in the shells poses alot of problems, you might want to re-think your idea....

Shinjin_MC September 9th, 2007 12:05

from the dimensions of the bb holes your 'shell' is the same size as a 40mm moscart anyway

Damned September 9th, 2007 12:08

Its an example, and a though and an idea.

could name some of the problems a self contained cartridge poses? as ive said i dont actually know any of it

Shinjin_MC September 9th, 2007 12:13

maybe you could invent 2mm bb's too

look at maruzen and tanaka shells
maruzen can have a 'combat' load of 10 fired from CO2
combat bucks loads I understand have a similar pellet count
well..if you want to invent something, its always a good idea to completely understand what is out there at the moment

Captain Tenneal September 9th, 2007 12:20

Not to mention, Tanaka shells already have gas held within the shell. The Clarence Lai Magnum/Slugshot/Buckshot rounds take it a bit further, with higher pressure gas that can fire either a single bb at 450 fps/either a 1.9 or 3.9g rubber slug/or 9 bb's.

Not that this wouldn't be cool, but it's somewhat been done already.

de-mix September 9th, 2007 12:32

For a home-brew design. I think it would be easier/more suitable to create some kind of gas unit. Instead of trying to create a shell that will contain gas.

Are you planning on building your own shotgun to integrate this system?

Also, nobody can say this guy has failed. All he has shown is an idea and a diagram. Sure these things happen a lot, and we usually never hear about them. But people have built AT-4's and other strange devices in the airsoft community.

Don't let some malicious/useless response get you from creating your ideas.

Murdoch September 9th, 2007 13:19

Also, try and have a sense of humor about things. If you're going have a stick up your ass about every negative comment that comes your way, you won't get very far as an inventor. That said, good luck with what ever you decide to build.

Damned September 9th, 2007 13:54

I dont have a problem with critisism when its creative, its when people just say "nah been done you lose" how is that helpful?

im not going to make a shotgun for this, but if i did it would be an over and under break barrel (or side by side, whatevers easiest) just for shits and giggles.

if someone could be so kind as to either post the dimentions of a shell or tell me where to find them that would be nice :)

hattrick September 9th, 2007 17:03

Dont expect to acomplish too much with a "shits and giggles" attitude.

Damned September 10th, 2007 05:38

i meant that id make it just to make it, i wouldnt nessecarily use it for anything serious. if i where to make something id do it properly or not at all

kalnaren September 10th, 2007 07:55

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Originally Posted by Damned (Post 533560)
I dont have a problem with critisism when its creative, its when people just say "nah been done you lose" how is that helpful?

im not going to make a shotgun for this, but if i did it would be an over and under break barrel (or side by side, whatevers easiest) just for shits and giggles.

if someone could be so kind as to either post the dimentions of a shell or tell me where to find them that would be nice :)

Well dude just think about it for a second.. airsoft has been around for quite a while.. how long have you been involved? Chances are if it's a good, effective idea, it's already been invented or tried. Just say'in...


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