The types of bbs
 

This may be in the wrong section and probably answered somewhere but I have heard people say that you should never overlook the smallest of things. So I am wondering what you guys think of in comparision for say all .20 bbs. The brands I am really interested in are bb bastard, airsoft elite, ksc (especially this found good price on 20000 of em), TM normal, TM bio.

Thanks for your help and I understand that this has probably been asked before.

0.20g BBs are generally only good for close range indoor games. Outdoors they are very poor performers regardless of the fps they are shot at, due to their instability even in light breezes (meaning they will go where they want to after 80ft or so), and the inability to do well penetrating dead grass or leaves (they bounce right off, causing you to either change your position and/or expend more ammo to get them through to your target).

To partially answer your question, going by the brands you listed, Airsoft Elite and BB Bastard's new batch are very good (I only use the 0.25g), haven't heard a lot of bad stuff about the KSC brand, TM is pretty good, bio............. meh, there are many people that avoid bio BBs because they don't want to deal with replacing AEG parts due to crappy bio ammo.

This is the best place for you to get pretty much any info on airsoft. Includes two BB brand reviews/comparisons.

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/

I utilize BB Bastards .25s and have been happy with their performance. The prices are good and the shipping time is great. (do you think I'll get a discount for pimping lol)

I have been looking into bb bastard but I got an order I making to a place with $60 for 20000 ksc .20 so i debating but yes .25 i know has benefits.

So the difference in stability is quite noticeable when going from a .2 to a .25 when playing outdoors? Is the loss in velocity noticable?

Not really no> I find I get more "kills" with the .25 which I think is partly due to the accuracy of the bb itself. Also, with the .25's I find it easier to float the BBs to where I want them (floating is when you utilize the predictable variance of the BB in an uncontrolled environment. ie. outside.)

i like my ksc perfects over my tm...but ive only used them indoors so far...no outdoor games yet..

I've been using BB Bastard .25's, and I've had zero problems with them so far, the only thing is I did notice a drop in velocity with using .25's, my gun is firing the .25's at 275fps, and I have a pdi 130 spring in my gun. With the .20's it was closer to 320fps.

Generally you'll find a 30-40fps drop in velocity with 0.25g over 0.20g, but the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. Fps isn't as important as one might think, aka. higher velocity isn't gonna get you more kills necessarily. Sure, one might think it's harder to dodge a lighter/faster BB than a heavier/slower one, but those only really happen at longer ranges (100ft+) in the open when the target sees you shoot at them and moves. Since the higher fps acheived with 0.20g BBs will get them to your target faster, they will have a larger spread by the time they get there due to their lighter weight (air resistance). 0.25g will stay on course in a tighter spread farther out.

And as far as range goes, I've heard some people claim that 0.20g BBs will have a farther range than 0.25g. This is true, but you have to look at what kind of range you are talking about. 1/ If maximum range is where the BB will evenutally land, then yes, a 0.20g BB might very well do that. 2/ If one is talking about effective range, meaning percentage of hits on a target 100+ft away, then 0.25g will have it in spades.

Anyone remember this?

http://www.airsoftplayers.com/accuracy/g36.gif

http://www.airsoftplayers.com/accuracy.asp

http://www.airsoftplayers.com/accuracy2.asp

Looks like time to get some .28's in

I know that Ches bought some for his M14 and was pretty happy with them. A couple times I had an MP5 shorty mag loaded with 0.30g BBs (MP5 was shooting around 365fps at that point) and I found them to not be very good for range or whatever. Then again, my hop up was set for 0.25g and I found the fps to be rather sluggish. Now that I think of it, there was a guy in the top of the tower at the LZ that I was shooting 0.30g at, a noob by the name of Hazard! Lol, I think I was about 100-120ft away at the time.

I've played with all of the ones mentioned above. I usually use KSC/ BB.B 25s with no problems. The .28 were great when I had my m16 shooting around 400, but they are not readily avalable, so I would get too attached to them.

My suggestion would be to have about 1/4 of your mags loaded with 0.28g, the rest loaded with 0.25g. Use the 0.25g as "general purpose" ammo, and the 0.28g as "special application" ammo. I sometimes do that for my MP5, 0.25g all the way, maybe a mag or two loaded with 0.25g in black, and a shorty mag loaded with heavier. Same as my M24 sniper rifle sometimes, 0.29g is normal, rifle tuned for them, and 0.36g in case there is a strong wind tossing my shots around too much.