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Ricochet May 30th, 2016 09:01

TP Logic T12-W & T12-V Thermal Imagers for Airsoft
 
I'm specifically looking at these two models:

- T12-W (100+ meters/12.5• field of view)
- T12-V (150+ meters/8.33• field of view)

Does anyone have experience with either of these two models? Other models have proven to be hit or miss with Airsoft, especially pertaining to range. The idea behind these two is that you'll detect a target long before you're in range of their guns. So, have you used one? Any complaints about capabilities or field of view, etc? Insight would be nice. I'm going to be using it mostly as a spotting/recon tool and less as a sight, so it needs to accurately pick up man sized objects.

Thanks.

http://tplogic.com/thermal-solutions/t10/t12/

http://tplogic.com/V2/wp-content/upl...015/11/t12.png

ThunderCactus May 30th, 2016 10:59

Dan Anderson's got one, you can ask him

Ricochet May 31st, 2016 13:00

Honestly, I'm stoked to give one of these a whirl. I don't think I'd tell anyone on the field that I have it, just to be a dick.

guy: "Wow! No hiding from you dude, you must have the eyes of a hawk."

Me: "Nope. You must just be wearing crappy camouflage."

guy: "WTF! I'm wearing the same camo as you."

Me: "You must be wearing it wrong then." *walks away


But seriously. If effective and used correctly it could be a game changer.

daishi May 31st, 2016 14:14

I'm thinking about building a TM vsr10 with a thermal scope for night time.

What do these scopes do? Just sit in front/behind of your existing ones?

Datawraith May 31st, 2016 14:17

They are most often placed on an offset mount. I think you're thinking of FLIR optics where you can mount them in front of your optics. These Torrey Pines are tiny; think of them as an uber expensive RMR with thermal vision capability.

Ricochet May 31st, 2016 14:40

It's the size of an EoTech roughly and the same-ish shape. It does have red dot capabilities, but it's better as a spotting device. It has a few different view modes and depending on the model you get distance over field of view. I've spoken to a few guys that ran the shorter range ones and was told it's good for CQB, but not so much for outdoor/long range. That's why I'm looking at the long range ones solely. No one I've spoken to has run the longer range ones though. If I get one I'll likely run it offset. I have seen a few guys online running it in conjunction with another sight, but it doesn't look overly effective.

Datawraith May 31st, 2016 15:04

All the ones I've seen are significantly smaller than the size of an EOTech, Ricochet.

The smallest EOTech dimensions (XPS2) measures 3.8” x 2.1” x 2.5” (97 x 54 x 64 mm).

RMRs measure 1.8" x 1.2" x 1" (45mm x 30mm x 25mm).

In comparison, the T12 thermals measure 2″ x 1.8” x 1.5” (50 x 45 x 39mm).

BenG May 31st, 2016 23:12

The exportable ones have a really poor refresh rate, great for spotting and using in conjunction with something like a pvs-14 or D300 at night, If I were to use one as a primary optic id make an effort to try and "aquire" one of the 30hz models! If someone could demonstrate it possible to get one of the 30hz models id probably get one over gen 3s simply because of cost while in school!

Ricochet May 31st, 2016 23:30

Which model are you rocking?

BenG June 1st, 2016 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricochet (Post 1980717)
Which model are you rocking?

me? I dont have one, just did alot of digging into it, currently using a pvs-7, id be very interested to have a look at one, and find out how they got it in Canada, as I havnt been able to find a place that will export even the 9hz models which are supposedly export ready.

Ricochet June 2nd, 2016 02:28

Maple Supply or Maple something, has them listed as part of their inventory. Plus, apparently TP Logic will ship to Canada.

BenG June 2nd, 2016 21:28

Trying to find this "maple something" currently

Datawraith June 2nd, 2016 21:37

They have no guns on their site, only parts and accessories, so I'll post a link (staff let me know if I can't and I'll remove the link).

http://mapleairsoftsupply.ca/product...s-logic-t-12n/

BenG June 2nd, 2016 23:36

9hz and a 60m range thats not bad at all, well over the average engagement distance for night would certainly give you an edge

pestobanana June 2nd, 2016 23:43

I have not gamed them, I have looked through them.

They are pieces of shit. They look ugly and are coloured like cheap toys. Screen is tiny, refresh rate is garbage. They are useful for being able to tell that there is a warm blob somewhere. Past 20 metres it starts to get difficult to make out shapes. As a weapon sight, it is useless. The only way I'd find the thing useful is for spotting heat signatures through brush when they are already decently close.


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