Crane stock battery
 

What kind of battery will fit in my crane stock on my CA M15A4. The gun hasnt arrived yet, but what battery would u recommend? Is it the ones that look like Tri-nunchalks? or just the nunchalk ones? Thanks guys, sorry for the newb question

Either of these designs should do the trick. As long as the voltage and MAH ratings are sufficient to your requirements then you should be fine.

https://www.airarmory.com/shopping/i...Cranelarge.jpg

http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/pic-...1400-crane.jpg

I feel I should also point out because I too just learned this fact. The top battery pictured above will not allow the stock to collapse fully as the middle battery will stop it. The two stick bat will not have this problem but will obviously pack less punch.

what brand, mAH and voltage would you guys recommend?? Battery life isnt something im concerned of right now, im more concerned about rate of fire... i would probably fire around 200 rounds in a week.. mainly in door target practice

The 9.6v I have in mine (exact same gun pretty much) does just fine. mAH is just lasting time so get what ever you want really. I think just about anything north of 1000 mAH should get you through what you're planning just fine.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2...ark8966945.jpg

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/bb-batter...ane-stock.html

YMMV, depends on the buffer tube lenght. This fits really tight in my CA.

I just wanted to clarify something. How come the the bottom battery will have less punch? Its still rated at 9.6V even though battery life is shorter. Thanks.

Voltage and amperage = power. amperage is also life though too, generally you want 2000mah for a full day gaming.

Your best bet (for ease of use and minimal frustration) is to get the G&P Crane Stock Batteries. You can get them in 8.4v, 9.6v and 10.8v configurations - but they come by default with DEANs connectors.

Therefore, you'll either need to convert your AEG to a DEANS connector (recommended), or convert the battery to a Tamiya mini connector. The swapping out of connectors either way, is well worth the hasstle free benefits of the G&P batteries.

The plastic sleeve they come with, holds the three groups of battery cells so they just slide into the crane stock without the wires getting caught on anything. VERY nice to have when you don't have time to fight with a battery when swapping it out or when you generally just don't need any extra aggravation in your life. ;)

This same system also allows you to collapse the butt stock significantly further than the nun-chuck batteries do. Personally, I find the conventional "nun-chuck" battery set up nothing but a headache.

When I first got my CA M15A4 CQB SEAL, I fought with the nun-chuck batteries every time to get them into the Crane stock, and once in - the most the stock would collapse, was the furthest extension setting.

As time went on, I discovered that the G&P Crane Stock had more room in it lengthwise - particularly the side saddle compartments. However the CA Crane stock had wider diameter spaces for the batteries themselves, meaning they could take a larger cell (more mah for a Ni-Cd or Ni-Mh).

However, I swapped my CA Crane stock for the G&P one as I had plans to load two 11.1v 1200mah LiPo's into the side saddle compartments with the connectors at the rear, so a quick pop of the butt plate and I could quickly and easily switch batteries if needed. This only required minor modifications to the butt to access the connectors, and those modifications would only be visible when you took the butt plate off.

One of the other benefits of switching to the G&P Crane Stock, was that the buffer tube it comes with, has a groove cut out of the side to accommodate the connector wiring. This makes hooking up the battery and collapsing the stock a little easier than the stock CA one.

Lastly, the G&P batteries are also typically much cheaper than their nun-chuck style battery counterparts, though you will be limited in miliamps (2200mah).
However, if miliamps are that important to you, I would argue that for the cost of the batteries, and the ease with which they can be swapped out vs the nun-chuck style ones, you'd be better off getting two or more of the G&P batteries.

Anyhow, I'd definitely recommend the G&P crane stock batteries as the best Ni-Cd solution.

If you have any interest in putting a Li-Po into your gun (assuming you'll upgrade it to handle a Li-Po) then I'd suggest the Firefox 11.1v 1200mah (3pcs) Batteries. The 3 pieces per battery make it easier to slide the whole battery into one of the side saddles as opposed to the 1 piece batteries which are more rigid/less mailable.

Hope that helps Bud! :)

Cheers!! :)
Brian

The battery in the first picture I listed is a 9.6v battery created out of SUBC cells, the battery in the second picture is a 9.6v battery made from 2/3A cells. I do not know how to really explain it but SUBC cells just pack more juice?

It is true that in the tri batt config it is essentially impossible to close your crane stock entirely.

Heres a suggestion for a website if you are interested in purchasing any additional in the future.
They have great customer service and alot of people from ASC buy from them.
http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/?sid=1584548

Okay so taken all things to consideration, which one is better, the nunchuck or the tri-nunchuck? I prefer something that is 9.6V with 2000mah+... if so, do you think the sanyo or the Greenpow would fit in my CA M15A4 crane stock? Thanks

Really its a personal choice, do you want to be able to retract your stock or not? As for fitting, measure the diameter of the holding tube and send an e-mail to the seller checking if it will fit before you buy.

Well, i would like to have the stock fully retracted and extended...I actually dont have the gun yet, but will soon..so that when it arrives, i will have all the accessories already

I can speak to this... saw the traffic from the picture coming through to the site =) We don't mind hotlinks from forums. sometimes people do it to their own shops or craigs list postings and thats just in poor taste =)
http://sitrep.airarmory.com/sitrep/p...link-FAIL.aspx

either way, sub c cells have a higher AMP per hour output rating than AA cells or 2/3 cells. In this thread someone said Power = Voltage x Amps this is true. But it is not the Mah Rating it is the generally undisclosed amp per hour rating of the cell or battery pack. and i say battery pack as adding all the tabs and wires changes the voltage and thus changes the amp rating of the only thing the original manufacture can speak to which is the cell itself.

Personally in my Classic Army M15A4 PMC w/ crane stock i use a 4200 or 4600 9.6v crane battery. I would absolutely recommend using this style of battery as classic army made the stock slightly larger than the real steal stock specifically to fit sub c cells. If you load your battery properly you will generally have full use of your collapsing stock, but wire lengths vary and they can get in the way and cause you to loose one position.

What you generally need to remember about batteries is voltage speaks directly to RPM and MAH speaks to how many hours the battery can delivery the output of amps the gun draws from the battery. AKA battery life.

MAH is also an important consideration for recharging. Batteries less than 1200 mah should not be charged at a rate higher than 1.2 amps per hour for those of you with charges that offer a choice.

Thanks for your input, can you send me the link to a picture and brand of the battery u are using for your M15A4?? I feel more comfortable knowing that someone else has a battery that fits well in their CA M4. Thanks

DAGDA: Which 9.6V battery are u using for your CA M4?? Do you have a link? Thanks

https://airarmory.com/shopping/shope...0Battery&bc=no

here is an example of what i use... and like the most. Its an intellect brothers 9.6v "Custom" crane stock battery. this configuration is 3600 mah, but the mah hours on the C cells can go up to 4500 i believe with out changing form factor. Its just a price difference.

The major notable difference between this batt and its closest competitors are the tabs and the leads connecting the cells.

For example the tabs on the intellect battery are much more solidly connected. on the powerizer batteries there is one lead which can easily be accidentally pulled off.

Also on the intellect brand battery the lead that runs the length of the battery is flat. This makes it ideal for inserting into the buffer tube of your gun and getting the full range of stock motion. some other batteries will have a clear hump on the side of the battery which will inhibit the placement of the battery and the motion of the stock.

Many places you order these batteries from will simply make them in the back from loose cells with a shrink wrap machine and some wire and it can show. Intellect Brother batteries when ordered how i like them are made by the manufacture in china and shipped to the us as a completed product properly spec'd out for airsoft.

Horror stories about the local RC hobby shop and low amperage custom batts need not apply here.

sorry i cant help with getting you any of these things right now (IB Batts), gotta work out a better arrangement for imports. We like to get our customers good prices. Need to reestablish with the china guys because second rate us resellers are no good for us customers.

anyway... hope i did just say wayyy to much! lol

Thanks for your thorough reply!! Besides the link you sent me, do you know where I can get one of these batteries? Either a Intellect Brother or a Sanyo. Thanks!!

TSD rebrands Intellect batteries and sells them to allot of airsoft shops, generally at the wrong price because they have to deal with paying for the TSD markup... but i'm sure if you use "the google" you'll find something.

Turok,
This is where I got my battery for a CA Crane Stock. Don't mind the simple looking design of the website, they're amazing. Custom any cells into almost all configurations and their customer service is incredible. Very quick replies to questions regarding dimensions and their custom page allows you to select various models of AEGs to compare what some people have used before. Might be a taaad price, ie $10-30 more but it's worth it for a well made custom pack.


http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/?sid=1588185

Hello turok,
I have 2 of the tenergy 4200 mah 9.6 in stock at the moment the subc $79.95
in mississauga, so you can let me know when your coming and i'll hook you up (oh pun)
Cheers
Jeroon

Get the sub-c packs. Sanyo, GP, Intellect (I made my own...ugly as sin but it works well).

If you get the 4/5A-2/3A-AA whatever cells...they'll rattle around in your CA Crane stock and bug the crap out of you.

Those "A" cell packs are meant for the KA/G&P crane/mod/clubfoot stocks that are slimmer.

Go easy on closing your stock...with SubC cells it's a tight fit and there's not a lot of room in most stock tubes with the retaining screw in place. Lots of guys slice through their wires because they aren't careful.

Consider a "LiPo" stock tube...they're thinner walled (but still pretty stiff) and the retaining screw/plate is set really far down the pipe. The extra room will be handy for the battery cells and wiring when you collapse your stock.

Or...just don't collapse your stock...

AHHH! Thanks, Ill contact you ASAP when i finish with my research!

Hey guys, would you be able to direct me to a newb page that explains the difference between lipo and the regular nicad battery, and also an explanation of the benefits of sub-c cells. I feel bad for always asking u guys, so if u have the resource, would u be kind enough to provide it for me? thanks

I was actually going through cheapbatterypacks.com and I came up to this page:

http://www.cheapbatterypacks.com/mai...r=20&model=176

If you scroll to the bottom, im thinking about getting the Sanyo CP2400SCR.

How do i know which AWG wire to use?
What about the connector?
Does the "With upgrade" option really make a big difference?

Thanks!

Really not that hard...

16AWG wire is fine. Larger is better...but if it's too big (and depending on how they run the wire down the middle cells) it won't fit your stock tube. See their warning about them not being responsible for it not fitting? Best to measure the inside diameter of your tube and ask them. Some packs are made with a flat metal strip running along the pack instead of round, insulated wire.

Small connectors are not good enough. Large connectors at a minimum. DEANs are better. Nice part about deans is that if you goof and yank your stock off...hopefully the deans will separate and you won't rip your wires off...whereas a small/large connector is locked in.

Don't know what they mean by upgrade.

You could just take it to Jeroon and test fit it...or ask Jugglez to simply order in the one you need...:D

The "upgrade" I believe is they just solder the packs by hand using a high silver content material, to decrease the pack resistance.

ok after doing some more research, ive come down to these options

1. Sanyo 9.6V (cheapbatterypacks)
2. Intellect 9.6V (Cheapbatterypacks)
3. Premium Power 11.1v 1300mah 20C Li-Po Crane Battery (http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1281)

Which one do u think will be the best for my CA M15A4 crane stock?

ALRIGHT!! I think i made up my mind. im going to get a sanyo 9.6v 2400mAH CP2400SCR
from cheap battery packs and a Universal NPT Smart Charger from airsoftparts.ca!!

I wouldn't recommend Tenergy packs, they're generally crap.

I'd recommend the Elite cells.

Elite Cells are better than the Sanyo ones?

I'd say so. And they're NiMH (no charging memory) instead of the Sanyo's which are NiCD (charging memory).

oh thanks for the infor Styrak. Are the Elite and Sanyo batteries Sub-C cells. On the page it says "SC" under "Cell Size" so im assuming they are all Sub-C ?

BTW, the NPT Smart Charger from Airsoft parts canada should be compatible with the elite batteries right?

Yup SC = sub-c, or large battery cells.
And yes that charger will work.

okay, right when my gun arrives, im going to order the Elite batteries.. i hope it feels in my CA crane stock!

I'm glad I found this thread instead of starting a new one. Even though I haven't really found an answer to my question...

I'm wondering if anything but nunchucks battery would fit in my crane stock ?

The middle hole (buffer tube) is filled with the mosfet, the fuze (I think) and wires so I can't put anything in there. The thing is I can't find a lot of 11.1 LiPo nunchucks batteries so I was thinking about "tri-sticks" types or stick types.

Would it be possible to put two of the three cells on one side and the other one on the other side of the buffer tube ? Will a single stick battery fit on one side ?

Gun is G&G GC16 MPW12.

Anyone ?

Should I just change my stock for something more versatile if that even exists ?

Find out the dimensions of the battery tubes and go from there. Most stores that sell lipos will mention the dimensions of the batteries and if they don't, a short hunt on google will find it somewhere.