VIDEO: Plastic mechbox Firepower P90 running on an 11.1V li-po battery
 

We tried hard to kill this gun, but it refused to die. We tried, but it just wouldn't fail. On the third part, the gun is held with a sustained auto burst of 2:30. We were all sure the mechbox would melt down. A few times, we smelled burning plastic, but despite that, it kept going.

After shooting this video, we loaded up a mag and fired it through the chrony. It still shot at the same 220-240 fps it always did and performed exactly the same in semi, only with an incredible responsive trigger. We tried but couldn't measure the rof as at that speed, the BBs wouldn't feed consistently.

YouTube - Attempting to kill a Firepower P90 with an 11.1V Lipo battery

This was shot with my Panasonic Lumix camera, so the video quality isn't great, especially in low light. But you can see and hear everything clearly.

wow dude that thing is durable lol

It's a crap gun. It has horrible range and shit accuracy, but I'll give it props for being tough. It's not typical for a clearsoft to be this durable.

lol well its gotta have something good....and btw thanks i really wanted to see wat you meant about it being garbage.....

yeah... it has less range/accuracy than the TF 11. BUT DAMN. I've taken it apart before. ALL plastic gears, plastic built in bushings, all plastic mechbox, plastic cylinder... basically the onlothing not plastic are the springs and electrical contacts. motor is random no name tinny thing.



In the video when we were touching the bottom at the ass end we were checking how hot the motor was... by the end it was similar to the battery that we were affraid of blowing up.

kool but one question whats the probability of the gun engine over heating?

I HAVE NO IDEA O.O


in airsoft that is (or at least supposed to be) never a problem... if the gun is working right. I was just affraid of it falling apart and getting shrapnel in my forearm.

lol i think i know where ur coming from... i had a friend who almost blew off his wrost because he tried to make a grenade launcher out of pvc and an aircompressor...

pwahahaha lol hook it up to a car battery... like that you wont have to be worried about battery warm up. lol i just received a 11.1v lipo and i've tried it on my aegs and most of the time in semi auto the gun make a 2 round burst ! i lipoed my kracken mechbox without any problem:D

why dont u guys try hooking up the p-90 to a car battery??would it even work?? lol i dont think so but i dunno im a noob when it comes to airsoft guns

yes it would work! i tried both of my aks on a deep discharge trolling motor battery (approx 13,5volts) the trigger response was like a bolt action sniper lol:D

I swear to god the only way you can kill this thing is through exorcism...

lol so ask a preist theres some in mississauga that do excorsisms :) and it would be kool to see the rof off a car battery ...i can only imagine it lol

I'm an ordained minister in the Universal Life Church. I can perform exorcisms. lol

lol so stop slacking and get to work :D just joking but seriously try and hook it up to a car battery that way u'll know if it fries

damn that thing takes abuse.

probably the motor would fail first because of overheating...

lol thats wat i was thinking because it was getting hot with the lipo..it'll melt through the plastic if they use a car batt

the isolant coating on the rotor's windings would probably melt down and cause a short and that is if the gear havent melted yet:rolleyes: i was thinking i have a crosman mini mp5 ... mabe i'll try to kill it:D i've actually ran it on a 12v 7ah battery and the motor fried, but i replaced it! maybe i'll try with a 7.4v 3600mah lipo this time:D

I call a motion for a sequel with a car battery, a stand, and a blast shield. All in favour say I.

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car battery sounds like an epic death for a cheap gun

lol so is it n "I"?

yes definitely, an I.

lol :D

hahaha and so down goes the experimental factor and up goes the entertainment factor!
I (or 'aye)!!

lol

It's alllll about the ratings :cool:

Hell yes, plug it on a car batt.
So I'm an I!

The song at the end of the vid, is that your band Crunch? If so then right the fuck on, killer stuff bro! Got some great pipes on ya there.

Keep on rotting in the free world \m/

Yep that's his band, And i looks like next game I'll have to break out my blast shield (actually have one in the basment), a car battery and some sorta mount to hold the gun. Talraga you don't mind right?

:D Would love to see this hooked up to a car battery (so "I").

DO IT!
And then, post the video.

Oh, BTW - mind if I link to your YouTube vid on 6mm-mag.com? Our readers would get a kick outta this.

well I learn to never trust plastic again b/c it cost me in robot contest

Thanks man. Yup, that's my band. Figured something like this needed some badass metal to go with it, and this song just seemed to suit it well :)

Well, we'll have to see what we can do about that. Sounds like a challenge to me :p

And yeah, go ahead. Link it up. I'm sure people will get a kick out of it for sure. That's why we did this. :D

so crunch im guessing your gonna do it up??if yes lemme know... ull probably post up here and ill read it but if not ill ask lol;)

Well crunch we're famous, again, Now next game at my place, just bring a car battery and we'll try this out. >.> I'll also keep some holly water on hand incase we need to cast out the demon that lives inside this gun and gives it power.

lol You got it.... We can just hook it up to my van's battery. I have booster cables in the back. We can zip-tie the trigger down (or duct tape if you prefer), put the gun behind the 'blast sheild' (in case of catastrophic, explosive failure), and hook it up and watch the ensuing carnage. Now sure how long the gun will last then though. I wonder what kind of rof we can get with that.

I think the motor will likely burn out before the mechbox breaks though, but still, will be interesting to see this in action...

would be funny if it lived and made it through

so I

Mind? I'm trying to think of ways to make this more awsome and I'm coming up short!

That's what she said.

Leave your mother out of this ;)

rofl im keeping a copy of this thread its pretty funny

it outlasted a CA M4?

The CA M4 in question did about a 10-20 second burst before the pinion gear shattered and sent shrapnel into the gear box, partially de-toothing a couple of the CA gears inside.

ya no, that doesn't surprised me about the CA guns, just that the firepower outlasted it.

Actually up until then the stock CA interenals were EXTREAMLY reliable. The pinion gear that shattered belong to the G&G Motor I had gotten to replace the CA motor that I had accidently dammaged when I switched pistol grips.

CA make some awesome gears. I was surprised to see that mechbox fail too. And it turns out the G&G motor was the culprit. Even the most hardened gears on the market would have failed in that situation.

I'm no master at mechs i can slap parts togther but iv never looked at a motor can the pionon gear on the motor be taken off and replaced?

hahaha the clearsoft hits back!

It's witchcraft! Burn it! (Just watched Monty Python and the Holy Grail)

In all seriousness however, if the gun can last that long on plastic gears and a plastic mechbox, then imagine what could be done if they made it all metal. I might be even more durable than a TM and now that's a scary thought.....

Not necessarilly - it might be lasting so long because all parts are wearing down at the same rate. Might be harder to get that balance with metal parts.

cheese has it right it might not even be the wear rember them sayign they could smell burining it could be that as theri wearing down the gears are allmost cutting it self deeper teeth as they are being worn down lol

also the low-impact cheap spring may have something to do with it... it isn't exactly firing hot ;)

As for the pinion gear, yes it can be replaced but that requires a tool we don't have. :S

Yeah. We could smell plastic heating up for sure. Not quite burning, so what we said in the video wasn't very accurate, but definitely smell plastic being heated up. I didn't see the smoke at that one point, but apparently there was a wisp of smoke that game from the gun. Not sure what it was from.

It would actually be interesting to remove the mechbox from the gun before the next test just to see what damage (if any) was caused by this test fire. We should do that before totally killing it next time.

you should that is if anything happens next time it might just be a destroy proof weapon and in that case ill buy it for beating y brothers with :rolleyes: lol just kidding...

depending on the plastic it might not smoke when i mill plastic at work it more like it smells then it does smoke per say their problay using a higer density plastic even though its lower end its easyer to machin then the cheeep cheep plastic or even puntch on presses so my money is its doing what i though it was and basicly what u were smelling was the friction from the plastics

I believe the mechbox and cylinder are polycarbonate. Not sure what the gears and other parts are made of though.

mechbox and cylinder are a clear strong feeling plastic. The gears seem to be made or the same stuff as TM pistons, same with the piston.

I wouldn't be surprised if we cracked it open and found out that all the plastic evolved into something stronger than diamond.

Yeah, they're more than likely polycarbonate, since it's a relatively cheap, durable and easy to mold / work material. But next time, we need to take it apart before the test to inspect the internals. With the clear mechbox, it shouldn't be to hard to see. lol Then we can connect it to the car battery and film the imminent destruction....

so im guessing the next vid will be on sat or sunday right?

Probably not. Next game, whenever that is...

lol ok just let us know:)

Oh, one of will. You can be sure of that! :p

lol goood i cant wait for the results... hey i wonder what would happen if u revved the ngine while the gun is dry shooting

Just remember to stay the hell behind that blast shield. We don't want to lose anybody to an "Undisclosed Clearsoft Incident". :D

nothing... there is a regulator on the alternator witch gives approx 13.5-14v at any speed

lol i dont think, even in the most extreme failure of the gun, that it would not do anything that could possibly harm someone lol

Man a lipo battery almost killed my TM MP5. How the hell can that not break! haha nice work guys.

This just comes to show you that even SHITSOFT can make a stand.

If the externals aren't too bad you think it'd be worth dumping a new V6 mechbox in it or something?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4Tyv...eature=related

Might be a repost, but it looks like killbucket ran a test on the AFTERMATH Broxa in a simular manner. While it is all metal gears and stuff, a lot of people tend to considor it a shit gun.

Looks like its holding up well to me!
(This video was taken after he had done a one and a half minute run with it, the battery died on him before, lol.)
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I got a bald piston and gear on one of my Inokatsu pig because of a lipo, definitely not putting one of those in any of my aeg anytime soon.

I'll stick to my 8.4v Thank you very much. :D

Same here. I asked Kos what i needed for it to work with lipo. Not worth it to me. My single shot is iffy. Sometimes it wont fire unless i switch it to full and back to single again. Sucks for CQB games since they only allow single fire. I had to keep switching it to full and single back and forth.

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pics!!!

id hafta say.... nothing

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nayyyy

Party pooper... You're still outnumbered in the voting though, so it doesn't matter... :D

lol majority rulez!!!!

Man I ran THAT lipo in my Kraken (with JG mechbox) most of that day firing upwards of 5 second bursts (had a hicap and felt like doing suppressing fire) and it's perfectly fine. If everybody is having shit luck with lipos, I suggest you all get the firefox 3 stick lipo. that's what we have and it rocks.

LIES.

LiPos don't kill mechboxes. Shoddy parts, and manufacturing defects do. Inokatsu isn't immune to them, either, unfortunately.

;)

Yes, lipos don't kill mechboxes... They just hasten their natural death.

It's kind of like smoking that way: More likely to give you cancer, but your likley to get it anyway.

nice compasrison...but thing is theres people tht smoke and dont get cancer yet theres people who have never come in contact with tobacco and they dead of cancer.....

That pretty much sums it up right there...