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R.I.T.Z March 9th, 2009 14:33

Buying an Aug
 
hey crazy dudes and dudets!

I'm looking into getting myself a Aug, I like the look and it seems rather reliable.
only question i must pose is, what company seems to get the job done right? (price is not much of a issue)

Styrak March 9th, 2009 14:38

TM or CA, second choice JG.

Crunchmeister March 9th, 2009 14:38

Get yourself age-verified and you'll have access to AUGs of all brands and price ranges in the classifieds and retailer sections. If price isn't much of an issue, the Classic Army is probably the better choice.

R.I.T.Z March 9th, 2009 14:53

thanks
 
i've heard alot about the classic army AUG
i just got age verified on sunday by the BB bastard himself, hell of a nice guy.
i can't wait to be able to look on the classifieds.
it doesn't seem like alot of people use the aug, well thats just my opinion

kalnaren March 9th, 2009 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 935969)
it doesn't seem like alot of people use the aug, well thats just my opinion

People make the mistake of buying one only once :D

arman March 9th, 2009 15:40

loved my aug it was my first gun

Crunchmeister March 9th, 2009 15:44

I'm torn about the AUG. I have one that's been offered to me in a trade deal, but not sure I'd actually use it. I've tried them, think they look sexy as hell, but I think the mags are annoying to deal with and I'm not sure it's a gun I'd get good use out of. But man, that thing would look sexy as hell on my wall...

phantastik March 9th, 2009 15:48

anytime i see an aug all i can think of is "misbuy"

Jimski March 9th, 2009 15:59

not many people use the AUG and some parts are pretty hard to come by.
I suggest you get 2 :D

my TM shorty was a killing machine right out of the box.
However I'm working on a CA aug right now and the mechbox is so badly molded...
other parts are pre-upgraded with CA, you get a metal spring guide, metal bushings, good gears, good motor.

but TM is good too, I'd go TM+upgrades if you don't mind it being a civilian A2 ver.

the AUG mags are usable in any M4 gear, safety can be switched leftie...

the AUG doesn't have a selector plate so that is not going to break.
you can interchange barrels in 2 seconds with their system.


the AUG hates being dropped on the butt or nose, the internal buttplate screws are prone to breaking - check it when buying used !

Also the internal magwell is plastic, careless user can break it and then it misfeeds- check it when buying used !

also with this AEG, the room for the battery is limited so it's difficult to go above 2500 mAh unless you add some ugly external appendage.

being under your arm, the battery stays warm in the winter.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 936007)
I'm torn about the AUG. I have one that's been offered to me in a trade deal, but not sure I'd actually use it. I've tried them, think they look sexy as hell, but I think the mags are annoying to deal with and I'm not sure it's a gun I'd get good use out of. But man, that thing would look sexy as hell on my wall...

mags take some training, especially because you can't hold two at the same time in one hand (unless you have pretty big hands) so you have to remove the mag, dump it, and then take another and load, whereas with an m4 or mp5 I'd take a mag, remove and reload with the same hand, and then dump.

L473ncy March 9th, 2009 18:14

TBH I'd actually like an AUG or other bulpup (except maybe for the FAMAS just because of the older design).

It's just that for conveniences sake I got an M4 (I love it though).

I'm looking to get a PTW later down the road and maybe something more exotic as a project gun (Maybe a VSS Vintorez. My favourite gun ever).

Oh yeah from what I've heard the most reliable gun ever is the P90 because of the V6 gearbox (they apparently never die).

Amos March 9th, 2009 18:19

Bullpups are amazing.

Styrak March 9th, 2009 18:41

I wouldn't trade my TM AUG for any other gun. The stock gears finally died after I put close to 10,000 rounds through the gun at 400 FPS.

And I got the gun USED.

Also never have feeding problems and the mags are solid in the magwell with no movement because the mags are made specifically for the gun, unlike armalite mags.

tycho March 9th, 2009 19:03

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Originally Posted by phantastik (Post 936012)
anytime i see an aug all i can think of is "misbuy"

Try telling that to anyone that's played with or against my aug; it's a cqb version and outperforms most standard length armalites in accuracy and all in maneuverability - this is both indoors and outdoors.

In any case - a statement like that is little more than arrogance or ignorance, most likely both.

Crunchmeister March 9th, 2009 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by L473ncy (Post 936143)
Oh yeah from what I've heard the most reliable gun ever is the P90 because of the V6 gearbox (they apparently never die).

P90s are actually awesome guns. The mags are a pain in the ass to deal with, but the gun itself is a pleasure to carry and shoot. It's got about the same barrel length as an MP5, but because of the bullpup design, it's more compact. I'd recommed it to anyone, really. It's a great CQB gun. And if you want to use it outdoors, you can easily install a longer inner barrel and hide it with a suppressor. Then you can have a carbine length inner barrel (along with its extended range and accuracy in a package the size of an MP5.

And of course, the V6 mechbox has so much metal around the nozzle that it's practically impossible to break the shell. It's also nice to work on, because all the wiring is external to the shell.

phantastik March 9th, 2009 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by tycho (Post 936178)
Try telling that to anyone that's played with or against my aug; it's a cqb version and outperforms most standard length armalites in accuracy and all in maneuverability - this is both indoors and outdoors.

In any case - a statement like that is little more than arrogance or ignorance, most likely both.


It was a counter-strike joke, forgive my nerdyness sir. aug being one slot below the much cheaper more effective M4

Muffin March 9th, 2009 23:06

I used a CA AUG and JG AUG. My vote is always go for quality(CA).
I've worked on both guns and it was a breeze with that version of gearbox(unsure of which one it is now). Alround I like them, I like their look, the selector right on the trigger(although my JG conked out few times) plus the room for such a looong inner barrel.
The only things that I didn't like were that they are alittle tail heavy and mags are tough to store or even find pouches to fit them.
All in all I like it, hope you find one that works well for you.

kalnaren March 9th, 2009 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muffin (Post 936340)
I've worked on both guns and it was a breeze with that version of gearbox(unsure of which one it is now).

V3

Deaf_shooter March 10th, 2009 01:46

AUG is one of few guns I love to have. with SIG 552 top on list.

Jimski March 10th, 2009 07:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantastik (Post 936329)
It was a counter-strike joke, forgive my nerdyness sir. aug being one slot below the much cheaper more effective M4

true but the AUG's sound in that game is awesome :)

R.I.T.Z March 10th, 2009 09:46

Head shot, double kill, multi kill, rampage, killing spree, unstoppable, INSULTING!
 
that's right counterstrike yelling out how good your doing anyways...
from the sounds of things I'm gonna get a TM or a CA Aug, i like the Rail of the military version, simply because that gives me more options down the road, I'm more of a CQB guy myself and that's why i went with a bullpup same length of a rifle but compact space of a SMG that gave me either the Famas which don't get me wrong looks ok in my books but i've noticed everyone and their mothers has one in the states, i wanted something exotic the steyr Aug, this only brings up one question of mine knowing that the mags for the aug and M4 are different sizes, would a standard vest made for M4 mags allow Aug mags?
in short does a Aug mag fit into a M4 pocket?

Crunchmeister March 10th, 2009 09:49

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 936586)
in short does a Aug mag fit into a M4 pocket?

A double M4 mag pouch will fit a single AUG mag.

R.I.T.Z March 10th, 2009 09:55

confuzzlation
 
time for some math to confuse all of you MUA HAHAHA :smile:
1 double mag M4 pouch is equal to 1 Aug mag which means that a vest which can hold 12 m4 mags can hold 6 Aug mags in a double pouch
so 2=1 12=6 6=6 so six pouches= six mags

Jimski March 10th, 2009 10:01

1 AUG magazine fits in this singleM4 pouch:

http://www.platatac.com/www/182/file...ceramic-ml.jpg

however you can only put 1 AUG mag in this doubleM4 pouch:
http://www.patriotoutfitters.com/img...5900/15999.gif

R.I.T.Z March 10th, 2009 10:16

Okay so I've decided on the CA Aug it seems the better choice right now i'm looking for mags, i don't like the high cap simply because the extra BB's rattle and winding it every so often is a pain, anyways where can i find CA mags for the aug? or do Mauri mags fit?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 936598)
1 AUG magazine fits in this singleM4 pouch:
http://www.platatac.com/www/182/file...ceramic-ml.jpg

thats like the chest rig i'm getting so i can have 6 Aug mags HOORAH!

Styrak March 10th, 2009 12:49

AUG mags are all the same, doesn't matter if it's CA, TM, King Arms, DBoys, etc.

As for pouches, I use two triple-deep double M4 pouches. So 4 pouches in total that hold 3x M4 mags each, which I can fit 2x AUG mags into for a total of 8x AUG mags.

R.I.T.Z March 11th, 2009 11:19

thanks guys
 
hey people thanks for all your help with this issue, I'm ready to start buying my gear. I really do appreciate all your input on this.
now...
TIME TO SPEND MNEY I DON'T HAVE!

Styrak March 11th, 2009 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 937589)
hey people thanks for all your help with this issue, I'm ready to start buying my gear. I really do appreciate all your input on this.
now...
TIME TO SPEND MNEY I DON'T HAVE!

Welcome to airsoft :D

R.I.T.Z March 11th, 2009 12:41

yeah its like any sport gotta spend money to have fun!
now i'm just trying to get rid of my paintball guns for some cashola
ugh nobody wants to buy them, grrr!

infernau March 11th, 2009 23:22

aug
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 935949)
hey crazy dudes and dudets!

I'm looking into getting myself a Aug, I like the look and it seems rather reliable.
only question i must pose is, what company seems to get the job done right? (price is not much of a issue)

I read a review just a little while ago pinning the jg aug against the ca aug, with almost $100 difference the jg (cheaper) performed better than the ca and is apparently easier to take apart. There were statements that the stock mag had the potential of being a lemon, loading wheel being done out of the box. I myself am doing all the research I can on augs cause I want an aug a3 really badly. Check youtube for review and to see it in action there's quite a few vids. if you're on facebook I'm in Ontario and just started the SCAA, simcoe county airsoft association, looking for members from all over our beautiful country.

Captain Tenneal March 11th, 2009 23:34

In my LBV-88 if you stack them opposite ends facing out (Ie, flared mag bottom facing down then insert the other one bottom facing up) you can barely squeeze two into a double M4 pouch, might just be my vest though.

I have mixed opinions on the AUG. It's a very nice gun. It takes down in seconds and packs down easily into a suitcase for easy transportation without people getting suspicious about what that bozo's doing with the rifle case.

It also features the dependable V3 mechbox, however mine (one of the first two CA's) were nearly impossible to get in and out of the body casing. I know TM's can just drop out once you remove the plate in the back, but mine and my friends were painful to get out to do repairs.

Another thing is if you have shorter arms (in my case), you may find it's a bit too 'long'. The big body and the elongated trigger guard meant that when I was firing it, I wasn't gripping the actual foregrip, but the trigger guard.

Another thing is if you like your hearing, the AUG is one of the more loud guns (especially the CA). It can be fixed, but right off the hop because your ear is right next to the motor, when you rattle away a whole mag, all I could hear was the whine of my gun.

And then there are some trifling issues; I personally blame it on being a first-run AUG, but there were issues with compression sealing and the stock CA hopup is almost total garbage (to the point where my stock TM P226 was outshooting it by far).

But on the positive; it's got a nice 509mm barrel, has some decent aesthetic upgrades, and if you shorty the gun, it makes it into an awesome CQB gun.

Just my opinion on the matter.

Danke March 12th, 2009 00:41

If you're looking for AUG pouches hit up SORD and Plat-A-Tac. They do full on rigs and seperate PALS MOLLE pouches.

R.I.T.Z March 13th, 2009 11:22

well i looked at the CA and TM aug mainly because as soo as i saw the price for the JG i thought bad manufacturing cause its so cheap, the TM is nice but i was worried about the body not being able to take somewhat of a beating, as for the CA it looks tough and was made out of a fiber glass type material. now you mentioned the rattle of the mags? well i'm getting myself some 80round lo-cap no more rattle of unspent bb's. as for the motor being loud, you said there was a fix, how do i go about doing that?

Jimski March 13th, 2009 11:48

for the noise, you can stuff foam in the stock, accessing from the butt,around the mechbox.

if you ever need to take your AUG apart, here are things you need to know:

-always remove the magazine before removing the handle/barrel unit
(failing to do so will endanger the hop up, and also result in a bb shower inside the body if the mag is full)

-always remove the handle/barrel unit when removing the mechbox.Failing to do so might result in a broken internal nozzle on the cylinder head.

-the taking in and out of the mechbox is greatly improved by filing or removing the two plastic lips inside the stock, around the mechbox's butt, on which the internal buttplate rests.

-the port covers are affixed to the gearbox, be carfeul not to destroy them when removing the gearbox.

http://www.airsoftgunrepair.com/i/ai...203/JG_Aug.jpg
JG aug mechbox with the port covers on thop

R.I.T.Z March 13th, 2009 11:56

okay crunch time the money is slowly pouring into my get a gun fund and I'm looking at the reviews and I'm torn :( it looks like a good gun, sounds like a good buy and that it is a decent piece of equipment but after reading and reading and reading :banghead: it seems to have alot of problems and for a noobie to this i don't think it'll be a good buy for me :(

Styrak March 13th, 2009 12:20

What problems were you reading about?

SockMonkey March 13th, 2009 12:25

Second the Plat-attack if you want good aug mag kit. I had a complete rig looks nice, but decided with a issue SAAV.

The Aug is a great gun, you will out distance most guns on the field unless they are dedicated snipers. Plus if you like Aus kit they look bad ass!

Jimski March 13th, 2009 12:32

yeah, don't be a pussy! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 939430)
What problems were you reading about?

mine probably :D
but I'm not representative :)

R.I.T.Z March 13th, 2009 12:32

taking apart the aug is a pain staking task and alot of things can break with the slightest misuse of force, i don't want to break my gun after the first time i take it apart, :( i'm stuck a CA Aug A2 or a KWA M4S...... BAH TOO MANY CHOICES !
the gun seems to drop down in FPS after a few months of use

Styrak March 13th, 2009 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 939445)
taking apart the aug is a pain staking task

Nope, easiest gun ever to take apart.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 939445)
]alot of things can break with the slightest misuse of force, i don't want to break my gun after the first time i take it apart,
the gun seems to drop down in FPS after a few months of use

Both false. I bang my AUG around and it's still fine after 1.5 years and I got it used.

Jimski March 13th, 2009 12:35

you won't have body issue, take a TM.
do not take a CA just for the body (CA bodies are really awesome though :) )

there are things to know but other guns are way tougher to take apart.
if you're afraid just leave it stock until you know it well.

R.I.T.Z March 13th, 2009 12:38

BAHHHHH!!!!
this sucks what about removing the gear box out of the CA?

TokyoSeven March 13th, 2009 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 939449)
BAHHHHH!!!!
this sucks what about removing the gear box out of the CA?

I would imagine it would be fairly similar to removing the gearbox out of a TM Aug.

TnT_13 April 23rd, 2009 19:38

I've read on numerous forums how to take the gearbox out...and even on mechbox.com they advise to set up a thick book on a table, and after removing the rear plate, BANG the shit out of the stock, until the mechbox pops out.

I'll comment here as i did there...At least with the JG, there are 3 bolts running through the stock, including the one that runs through the mag release tab....simply by unscrewing those, you can crack open the stock enough that the mechbox easily slides out. Easily, as in, no banging, or potentially damaging your gun. It pops back in just as easily, after which, throw the nuts back on the bolts and screw them back up tight. It separates at the bottom of the stock anyway, the top of the stock along with most of the gun's body is fused/glued together, and isn't designed/needed to be taken apart. It pops back in just as easily, after which, throw the nuts back on the bolts and screw them back up tight.

If those screws don't exist on TM's or CA, then I say HA to you. I've had my JG for a couple months now, LOVE IT, bought it on ASC from someone who won it and didn't want anything to do with an AUG. Looking at pics from last years boarder wars is might even have been that very JG AUG on the prize table lol...I should ask him.

Further comments - it chrono'd 335 out of the box (.20s) shoots accurately (enough that with a 3X scope, i'm getting scope kills every game, and this is with a pure stock set-up, and even b4 i completely figured out the hop-up),

The gearbox noise is hardly going to deafen you but the previous statement was correct, it is right under your ear.


Issues I've read about and can agree with, are the front handle, since it allows itself to fold up or down it does wobble a bit - I couldn't care less, its still solid to use and won't go anywhere but a half a millimeter back and forth...the other thing would be the outer barrel doesn't like to get bashed into things, apparently it's brittle and can crack/break...no firsthand experience, but i keep it in mind. What DOES like to get bashed against walls/the ground though.

Battery compartment is stingy. But I'm taking measurments, and look fwd to hacking up large battery packs and re-configuring the pack with a hump, because It'll fit. I will make it. And I'll make them for others if they'd like high mAh custom AUG batteries :D

If you havn't noticed, I love my AUG. Wouldn't trade it for a generic M-anything, anyday.


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