Steel reactive targets
 

A buddy and I made these targets to train with. Have not really seen anyone who has made something that is so versatile. Comments would be appreciated. Do you guys have stuff like this in Canada.

Video of the targets in use.
Airsoft Garage #6 Airsoft training and real steel Video by BURT AND MARTIN - MySpace Video

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=3538152

pictures of the targets.
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...albumId=715487

or myspace.com/bamairsoft

ps did not know where to post could not access retail section

It looks good.

Here's the standard equipment that the sport has been using for the past two decades, now moved in to airsoft.

http://www.cedhk.com/show.php/Object910

http://aaps-federation.org/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=133

As an fyi, IPSC has stopped using the metric target, and there is now an official Airsoft-specific (or "Action Air") classic target - dimensions available through Global Village.

Thank you for the complement on the targets
 

You are right that countries that don't have there own action pistol organizations default to the IPSC authorized targets. That mainly has been the ameoba "Classic" targets. In the approximately 30 shooting competitions "real steel" under USPSA I do a year, maybe 10% of the targets are the Classic. So internationally it may be losing ground, but it is very strong here. The surprising thing is that "Airsofters" love the Metric because it is torso shaped. Go figure, people love the way it looks, especially from a rifle. Imagine doing and airsoft sniper course, ask the competitors, you want to shoot the round plate or the torso one, guess which one the like.

CED makes good products, I use the timer, I see the HK guys using this stuff alot. I don't see to much CED stuff in US hands because it is expensive.

Thanks again

PS I did not know CED has been making airsoft stop plates for that long. In live fire competitions I have never seen an LED lit target.

We shoot colt steel in the US, do you in IPSC?

We started a club up here last year, led by an IPSC black badge holder. Since then, IPSC has officially taken airsoft under its wing, so a lot of big changes have been happening.

I'm currently working towards a black badge as well, but it's difficult in Canada - the road is long, but possible.

I saw these on Youtube!
I can't see the myspace video, but you guys are probably the ones talking with a huge US flag behind you right?

I wish I hava a garage....lol

Steel eh?

Those will be a lot better than the crappy Madbull ones. After you pepper them with a bunch of rounds they start looking like a teenager with an extreme acne problem.

The thing is, steel is much heavier, and slower to fall down.

This is a better link to the promo video

YouTube - airsoft targets

We have developed a stop switch which will fit on any BAM target.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=5644713

The target has an adjustment bolt to to work with various FPS Airsoft. Lets just put it this way, I have shot a pellet at this (900 FPS) and it did not damage the target face. My videos clearly show me engaging these target hundreds of times at varying distances with no problems.

Remember I made them, If they did not work, I would change them. I use these almost daily fro training.

we have wholesale pricing, PM me

This is a video of how it applies to real fire shooting.

YouTube - Airsoft Garage #6 airsoft and real steel training

P Burt

reset bars
 

I saw that a retailer commented so this is for you. We designed reset bars for the triple plate rack and installed them in a local airsoft store. Talk about a step up for the buying experience.

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=6477913

some before pics here

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=6477898

P Burt

been playing with a rifle
 

Video

YouTube - airsoft garage #7 CQB rifle and pistol

new ideas for training
 

IPSC style airsoft match
 

YouTube - Airsoft Extreme Pistol Challenge

Do you guys do this type of stuff up there?

Phil

That looks like great fun.

Yep, we have CAPS, exactly like that video but with more discipline. ;) Good vid.

Yes, we do. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=71216

Your guys are fast shooters, but they do exhibit some handling issues that would get them DQ'ed in the blink of an eye at a real IPSC match.

It may be anal for a bunch of toys, but if you train wrong, you'll shoot wrong, and with many of our shooters using this as a stepping stone towards real steel IPSC, we want to make sure our guys shoot and handle their guns and gears safely at all times. The last thing we need is an IPSC adjudicator to be monitoring our club, only to deny us use of the IPSC and Action Air names due to being unable to meet the demands for IPSC.

I cannot agree more
 

This was the first of it kind in this area. Of course you know that I am a real steel shooter so I saw what you see in the videos. I am trying to promote this type of shooting with airsoft. Many of the people who came, I knew would not have much experience other than skirmish type shooting. I setup the stages for the match. I gave a safety meeting with all the shooters before the match and discussed gun handling, stage descriptions and range commands. I chose to go less rule heavy for this first match because I wanted people to shoot and have fun. This was my choice. I believe once shooters get more experience it will be easier collectively for self enforcement during these matches. I think this will show itself in subsequent matches. The host store AEX has already indicated they want to do more matches and possibly a multi gun.

Here is a video of the California State Sectional Championship
YouTube - 4-26-09 GBC 2009

thanks guys, I wills look up the links and CAPS

Phil

You can also search "Canadian Airsoft Practical Shooting" on Youtube.

Once it's up in Montréal, I think I'll give it a try, and dump a load of needed cash in this.

And yet another stupid rule, now the Standard-Division pistols have to fit into "The Box" with magazine inserted, which means no more mags sticking out of the magwell, which pisses me off since I now have to machine the basepads of 15 magazines to comply to this frigging rule. And the worst part is that it won't change a thing for IPSC in Canada, all guns will still hold the required 10 rounds, only the single stack shooters will be greatly penalized since they won't be able to use those 10 rounders anymore, they'll have to change their whole stack of mags to 8 or 7 rounders.

Woah. Serenity now...

That rule is actually being re-worked.

This is what I had proposed and seems to be accepted by Vince Pinto and other shooters around the world so far:

Because Tokyo Marui and WE Hi-Capa 5.1's rule the "Action Air" shooting scene by about 80% of all pistols, and since they all come with the extended mags with the extended bumpers, an exception is being allowed for Action Air that allows the pistol to be fitted to "the box" without the mag inserted.

However, once the mag is inserted, it may not extend from the bottom-most portion of the GRIP mag well (not enlarged mag well) by no more than 20mm (2 cm), following the same axis of mag insertion.

The extension of the rule prevents guys from running around with huge gas capacity 50 round mags (at the time I made the amendment, I had predicted Marui to release a 50 round 2011 mag.)



The exact discussion and exact wording of the proposed rule to be appended to the Appendix of the IPSC rulebook can be found in the Global Village discussion on Action Air divisions.

http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.p...pic=8291&st=20 starting at post #39.
An account must be created to view.

In any case, machining the base pad won't do squat. My custom made metal low profile base pads don't even fit to the box, and they barely extend much from the bottom of the mag extension. Even if you DIDN'T have a bumper on the bottom AT ALL, it still would not fit the dimensions. The only way you could get it to fit with a mag inserted is if you use the 4.3 mags. This was not an ideal solution, because it forces all players who buy a gun to automatically swap out the mag that comes with the pistol.

I was mostly reffering to the Real-Steel IPSC in that case, as I am not (yet) involved in Airsoft IPSC. Sorry if it did offend you, it wasn't on purpose or aimed at you.

Okay, I guess that sort of makes sense. The confusion was because your comment seemingly came out of nowhere, so I related it to the most immediate topic: airsoft.

It was reffering to your comment (which was quoted in my post) about the elimination of the Metric Target in IPSC with the last revision of the rulebook, which also covered the "box fitting issue" in question.

But enough of that, let's get back on those steel poppers.

new airsoft videos matches and training
 

Sorry I haven't posted what we have been doing down here in a while.

last match footage.
YouTube - Airsoft Extreme Airsoft Pistol Challenge 2 Video 9
they put up several different stages and shooters check them out.

Reload training.
YouTube - Reload training Airsoft

Steel challenge with airsoft.
YouTube - Steel challenge airsoft

Oh, it gets better, you have never seen anything like this before and they are going in the next competition. [B]You have to see this[B]
YouTube - BAM STAR - BAM PENDULUM

Phil

I should not leave out the obligatory real steel video.
YouTube - richmond 8 2 09

making airsoft target stands
 

finally a swinger and star for you ipsc guys
 

Not alot of comments on the airsoft targets, huh. But that is expected from the competitions we have held for airsofters. There is a markmanship element, that is completely ignored by airsofters even though they play with replica guns. Markmanship is a key fundamental of firearms, not indiscriminate shooting.

YouTube - STAR and SWINGER for airsoft - USPSA training

blah blah, blah blah blah
 

YouTube - Bam Airsoft-USPSA targets side by side at the range

This may or may not be of interest, I'm not sure if this helps anyone but here you go.

I like the star targets... should look in to getting something like that for our use up here.

Now this is turning into madness
 

I can't believe what we are doing with this stuff.

YouTube - Part #1 - BAM STAR and PENDULUM uspsa target conversion

YouTube - Part 2 - BAM STAR and PENDULUM conversion - how to make into swinger

YouTube - BAM Airsoft - USPSA training hatcam

What kind of steel are you using that is light enough to react to an airsoft BB? Pretty cool stuff. Any tips on making this stuff at home? Shipping to Canada would just be crazy.

Shipping is not crazy, i have sent them to Canada before. send me a pm.

I've been following you on youtube for some time now, it's cool to see you made it onto our site as well.

Question:
The star and pendulum, do the plates attach with magnets and then have tabs to keep them on straight?

I've been working on an auto-resetting pendulum and it's using magnets (at least at the design-phase that I'm in).
Cheers,
Grant

Grant,

Sorry for the delay, I was at the USPSA Area 2 Championship in Mesa Arizona. You know, we tinkered with it alot. Just really experiment with different setups. You will find what works for you. I think the only thing we stayed away from is aluminum, and pretty much the whole thing is steel. For a crafty person, (time and tools) this should be a snap. But we made it for people to train and they may not have a shop or the time you will put into it. Good luck. Post it if you make it.

I took the time to go through your stuff, it's really very clever! Nice work!

Thank you for the remarks
 

This was really fun to do

YouTube- Build a USPSA open pistol (Airsoft) - How to

Martins garage - the ultimate set up
 

This is Martins garage. Martin is the other half of BAM. this is starting to get out of control.

YouTube- Winter USPSA - Airsoft training - Martins garage

that's a huge garage lol

Nice stuff and good work. Man...my workshop is just about a 10th of Martin's garage...:(

Nice to see the kids RO'ing!

thats an awesome garage....

Yeah, my backyard is all concrete, no grass whatsoever, and if I could just get a huge wall and a roof, I would be safe making that. :(
No more drywall holes!

stippling video and website up
 

I put a video of my stipling of an STI edge and the demo on a TM 5.1.

The website is fully up www.bamairsoft.com. check it out.

Adrenaline paintball picked up quite a few and may have some left, give them a call.

YouTube- 2011 Edge, TM 5.1 airsoft stippling - How To

we at Adrenaline have used the metric Bam airsoft targets at ous skills night,like to hear the clang!!

very nice

whats shipping on a single to canada like? interested in getting one.


Shawn

Finally, a scaled steel challenge for airsoft
 

We really made this one sweet for training.

YouTube- BAM AIRSOFT - STEEL CHALLENGE TARGET

This is the progress from the WINTER OF AIRSOFT

YouTube- uspsa on 2-7-10

Shawn, shoot me an email info@bamairsoft.com

first big match of year after long winter of airsoft training
 

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moving and shooting
 

YouTube- crazy man with a gun

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hadn't been here in a while
 

YouTube - Martin's USPSA Garage (Airsoft Training) Aug 2010

YouTube - 5-23-10 moving-footwork

hope all is well and your participation levels are up.

hello everyone, winter approaches
 

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...b982cb22f9.jpg

been working on some new stuff, made these that way anyone can get a race mount for half the cost.

this is a real one
http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...df915cee44.jpg


the website is fully functional now
http://www.bamairsoft.com/

and training has been good
YouTube - Martin's USPSA Garage (Airsoft Training) Aug 2010

as well as the real shooting
YouTube - 10/10/10 Target Masters last one before 2010 USPSA Nationals

this should motivate you
 

lets see if I can get a video box in the post. I don't know why the last ones were links only,

I just got my new iMac and this is cool way to make videos

myspace url
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/107108984

youtube url
YouTube - USPSA IPSC AIRSOFT TRAINING PRACTICE using BAM targets

YouTube - How to mount 90 degree C-more, USPSA Open pistol Tokyo Marui 5.1 (airsoft) STI SVI style

Here is an installation video for the sidemount