Nova's P90 project
 

*delited by Polar Nova*

Reason: Construcive feedback is not plentiful. Rather, I am critisized for being an American. How sad.

Updates post.

This post will contain my updates so you don't have to search for them.

I will work on the internals following the external project.

Why are you trying to make a P90 LONG???

It will be tactical looking. I'm certain it will not exceed the length of an M4.

The stock extention is to allow for a high ROF battery, not the sole purpose to add length.

I know you didn't ask that, but I'm just saying.

At least tell me you're going to install a longer inner barrel...

It looks like an FN2000.

Yeah. It kind of does. Yes, I may put a longer barrel in it. I'm wondering if an M16 6.03 will work.

as a p90 owner, i feel utterly mortified.
if you wanted something like the fn2000, u should have just bought one.
utterly defeats the point of a p90.

I agree. I owned a P90 as well.

This is just bastardizing the P90 and completely negating all it's advantages.

Let's pretend it is an FN2000 accept with a lot of RIS on it.

The approval rating for this gun is pushing 10% according to a poll I found.

lets pretend its not, and use a P90 for what its used for.
Its like using a Barret M82 Anti Tank Rifle as a shotgun.
It may be "Tacticool" for you, but anyone who knows what the rifle is for would shake their head in disgust.

If you want to bash "long P90's" then res the thread with the P90 that had like a PSG1 length barrel to it lol! Personally I like the looks of this P90 except the box mag conversion.... :D

Guys, guys......

He's in the US.

Now I understand...

LMAO! :D

Well that explains everything!

Why not just get an extended outer barrel if you want yours long?

Something like this to replace your flash hider.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-Airsoft-Toy...QQcmdZViewItem

http://world.guns.ru/smg/fn_ps90_1.jpg

first time seeing a P90 with RIS...don't know if it's fancy or awkward...up to you to decide...

personally I think it's different from everything else you see, not to mention the rails :D

It is different, but negates the purpose of it. :P
I do like the concept of using an M82 as a shotgun... bloody mess?

all that front end kit is, is just a bunch of rails around a spacey looking suppressor....

I'm gonna build an M16 SPR and use it in CQB! It'll be AWESOME!

Yes, but it also looks an extra foot or so longer; I'm not bashing this gun, I just don't prefer it, but hey; to each his own, no?

Now the Thundermaul, heh heh... (Just putting that up there for kicks, no flaming)

I agree with the longer barrel. I still think its fugly, but at least its a real gun. The longer barrel is the Civ version of the P90. As for the rest of it. I bought a P90 to get a P90... If i wanted Chewie's Bowcaster I woulda bought one from ebay.

although i think it looks goofy, its original, something that you don't see much of. I see thousands of "custom" armalites. Don't get me wrong, i love them, and i think that this P90 isn't particularily practical, but cudos for being original...

Now that's what I was trying to get out, that P90 was like a version of Thundermaul. LOL

*Lengths according to redwolf*

TM P90 - 504mm
TM P90 with Nitro Vo. P90 Tactical RIS Rail Module and silencer - 750mm
TM P90 G&P 9mm Silencer for Marui MP5/MP5K - 690mm

Exactly! I think this gun isn't very practical or aesthetically pleasing, but it is kind of creative (I've seen stuff like that before), it takes balls to get a gun like that and field it, haha.


Oh, looks like Drache got me with some cold hard facts, it just looked a longer than it should; oh well...

LOL P90 has 2nd shortest barrel (to the MP5K) and theres no way that the P90 is 1/2 a meter for barrel length. Its less than 1ft.

Pretty sure he meant total gun length. And yes a P90 inner barrel is 247mm.

And yes, the inner barrel in my AUG is longer than an entire P90.

i think its total length, like the whole gun, not the inner barrel....

Yes my lengths was TOTAL gun length and NOT inner barrel... sheesh my SAM-R only has a 509mm length inner barrel lol!

my bad, i cant even read straight... im going to sleep...

I'll give full marks for creativity and originality. That's getting pretty hard these days in airsoft. I prefer a P90 looking like a P90, but hey, this isn't bad at all.

I dont really find it origional or creative. Almost every major retailer sells the P90 like this. Since there arnt many accessories for the P90, They are limited in their options, and pretty much any full upgrade package P90 comes with this exact setup. Nothing new or origional about that.

Oh shut the hell up. You were using an extended barrel/LMG aug in Melville not long ago.

Give the guy a break.

Haha, yeah but it was the only gun I had.

Guys... ever thought of using a mini-gun as a sidearm with a silencer? lol...

Seeing that P90 conversion made me die a little inside.... Not only is it horrendously fugly, but..JESUS CHRIST! It's a goddamn P90. It's a tactical weapon, it's supposed to be small, versatile and weildy. Not big awkward and look like a crack whore's cootch.

I'll say it again, It's a suppressor for with rails on the outside....

Its an abomination that deserves to be shot... If he wants to tacticool something, go get an armalite or an mp5...

See what Guardian did with HIS P90, that was REALLY cool and origional. The reason why his differs from this abomination is that all this kid did is pour money on all the accessories he can get to defeat the purpose of the gun. Guardian actually fabricated a new section of body for his p90 as well added several new features.

theres NOTHING origional or unique about this kid's p90.
and Drache, if he wanted to get a rail + suppressor, they make P90 barrel mount twin rail (Similar to the C7 gas block rails) for the P90 and screw on a silencer. At least then hes using it for its purpose.

Christ, rage much you guys?

Maybe he doesn't want the p90 for looks, maybe for functionality. My searches when I first got into airsoft brought be to information saying that P90's were very reliable guns, great internals etc etc. Now maybe he wants to use it for outdoors, so longer inner barrel covered by a supressor.
Some people don't like holding the p90 through the hole, so maybe the rails are there so he can put a vert grip on it.

You guys need to calm down a bit. I've seen 2 p90's on the board's similar to that and this is the first time i've seen so much rage against that look.

I think the biggest difference is that the OP is american and thus not age verified....

I'll keep saying it, there is NO difference between the OP's gun and a normal P90 with a suppressor on it! The suppressor in this case is being hidden by rails....

Personally I think "opinions" are getting a little out of hand. Any armalite on this site is the same as at least ANY two others. Personally I have YET to see one of these in person nor pics of one being gamed here in BC.

Ive used a P90 and personally I wished that it was just a couple inches longer so I could wield a little better. Being a "big" guy who is 6'1 means the P90 doesn't sit so right. :D

Hey, I guess I'll throw some contructive suggestions at this P90 giant.

You state you want to put in 9.6v 2000mah nunchucks in an extended buttstock.

Why?

With the P90 Boxmag you can store a 8.4v Large battery where the regular P90 magazine would go. Way better output on the large cells and you're not trying to jam a nunchuck into the back end of this monstrosity.

what the hell would you use as a primary weapon?

Tank.

The Rods from God

Chuck Norris or CDN_Stalker

nono CDN_Stalker duel wields 3x 12 incher naval cannons.

Show some respect to a fellow human being. He did nothing to offend you.

I personally don't like the way it looks, I don't want to cover up a silencer with rails, no need for that many rails. But I'm not gonna call it fugly. And if he likes how it looks, then he should go for it. In the end I'd rather have something I liked that nobody else did than something everyone thought was cool but that I didn't, or that I thought could use some big improvements.

LOL, what a bunch of drama-queen
cry babies.

Last I checked, we all use the same
ammo and and shoot relatively the
same distance. So choosing to buy
or build a custom AEG is more about
looks and personal taste or lack there
of. And of course what ever is in the
latest video game or fan boy movie.

So, do what ever you like buddy, but
at least make her shoot hard if she's
gonna be ugly! :)

+1, all the way! lol. Couldn't have said it better myself safx.

What I would use as my primary.... The little silver gun, Will Smith used in the movie "MEN IN BLACK"...

Noisey Cricket or whatever it was called? :D

Ohhhh! The noisy Cricket!

http://www.yourprops.com/norm-47da99...ck+(1997).jpeg

The upgrades your planning, do take away from its realism. But that is your choice man, mod it to your taste. Everyone has their own perference in performance, look and feel. Do the ones that appeal to your eye.
Good luck on your build.

The extended stock is useless if you take the time to modify the P90 to hold a J battery; same size cells as the nunchuck you'd be able to fit with the extended buttplate. Or if you get the boxmag (I had one, it was pretty lame, just stick with lowcaps) you can put a 9.6V large battery where the mag would normally fit, like ShelledPants mentioned.

I got myself a Sanyo 9.6 1700 mah J that does not fit in there, even with all the mods. Apparently the 1500mah does, but I've yet to get one of those.
Is the extended butt plate and extended stock the same thing?

the 1700mah fits, Ive done the Jbatt mod to my p90 with the same batt, shes a beaut.

I like it quite a bit, i think it would be quite comfortable with a vertical grip.

The 1700mAh and the 1500mAh are the same size cells. Similarly, there are 2500mAh NiMH cells that are also the same size, so you can fit a lot of battery into a regular old P90 with a bit of work.

Yeah, I was using extended butt plate and extended stock interchangeably.

*COUGH* Use 7.4v 1000mah LiPo batteries...

Uh... Why? Even without modifications, you can still fit an 8.4V 1100mAh NiMH battery.

Because a 7.4v 1000mah lipo can pull a spring at a similar rate as a 8.4v large battery. :)

EDIT: Higher discharge rate, far superior to 9.6v minis, with similar/better ROF and power. Smaller than a 8.4v mini.

Last I checked, high discharge Lipos were still pretty damn expensive, not to mention the need to get an entirely different charging setup. Even a 30C pack won't be able to push as much current as a good 2/3A NiMH cell. You can get an 8.4V 1500mAh mini pack for $23... what about a 30C Lipo?

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack

16.60 + shipping.

Lipo's have a lot of myths behind them.

You don't need 30C to push m120's, 11.1v 20C can push a M120 (400FPS, m4 length barrel) at 20-25 bbs per second and it's smaller than an 8.4v mini NIMH pack.

EDIT: I would like to state, for the record, that my battery knowledge comes from theory discussed on many airsoft/rcCar/rcPlane websites. I have no experience with LiPo batteries yet. I have ordered 2 11.1v 1600 mah lipo's from hobbycity, and they are waiting for me at my apartment for when I arrive on the 28th. I can give much better details then. :)

I was always talking about how superior NiMH batteries are to NiCad, and dispelling myths about them that sustain to this day... I worry I'm becoming a hypocrite by bringing up old information about Lipos. The last time I personally checked Lipo prices was only a few months ago, and I couldn't find any high performance packs that would cost you less than a hundred bucks. The industry really seems to be taking big leaps and bounds towards production efficiency.

What can I say, you may still convince me that Lipos are the way to go =P

I'm trying to convince myself too. Which is why I bought a few.

I really can't wait to get back to Toronto to test them out.

Judging from the videos I've seen though... They are absolutely awesome.

Google "KWA Lipo" and you'll see a stream of video's of 13 year olds playing with 30 bb per second guns. The trigger response looks insane.

personally i would rather have the normal P90's

http://www.airsoftbattlezone.com/i/a...irsoft_gun.jpg

Personally I don't see how the P90 could get uglier.

I'll agree that it does have an aquired taste that can either way for most, but I like them.

Respect the P90, it own in CQB.
But I like them in original form with as little bells and wisles on it as possible.
:D

I wouldn't know really, I've played one CQB game ever. I hate it compared to outdoors.

yeah i wouldnt want a P90 with all exterior add on's i like the normal stock p90's i wouldnt tinker with the exterior only the internals,, p90's look cool dont make it look ugly and even bigger !! the p90 basically is for CQB so dont make it bigger!!