TM FAMAS vs. Steyr AUG
 

Which gun do you think is better (even though I assume they are similar in performance) and which gun do you think looks cooler?

Well I don't know for sure if they are similar in performace, but I have been very pleased with the performance from my Aug, both when it was stock and now that it has been upgraded. Can't say a bad word about it.

As to which one looks cooler, I think the Aug looks way cooler, but that is a matter of taste.

To declare my bias I should say I am of Austrian desent. :D

LD

FAMAS -V1 mechbox, bitch to repair and upgrade.
AUG -V3 mechbox, stronger, easier to repair and upgrade.

FAMAS -Creaky ABS plastic. Can be solved with a bit of work.
AUG -Not creaky. Very solid.

FAMAS -Good weight, long barrel, good accuracy, insane fire rate.
AUG -Very heavy, even longer barrel, average fire rate.

FAMAS -Large battery, can run all day.
AUG -Small battery, I've seen people blow through 3 in a day.

FAMAS -French.
AUG -Not French.

FAMAS -Looks cool IMO.
AUG -Fracking ugly IMO.

FAMAS -Google is a wealth of information.
AUG -Google is a wealth of information.

Any more questions?

FAMAS - Not sure about disassembly
AUG - Comes apart in 3 pieces, plus a mechbox :) A LOT of metal.

AUG is very heavy.

battery compartment is small.

i prefer the AUG but i own an aug, the famas just felt to "plasticy" to me I was purchasing my rifle

Mechanically? The airsoft AUG wins.

Yea, I kinda lumped that in with "Bitch to repair and upgrade" I've never attempted to take mine apart, and I don't intend too. :p

I've got both, and love them to pieces. Personally, I could say which I prefer better- they seem to have about the same range on them (AUG seems to shoot a tiny bit harder, though), and takes apart easily while the FAMAS is the biggest pain to take apart I've ever had to deal with. Still, that's not a huge issue to me.

They both have their ups and downs- for me, the battery placement in the AUG really pains me, while the FAMAS takes a Large with no problems at all.

WTF kind of AUG do YOU have? It takes like 5 seconds!

Whoops, typo. I meant FAMAS, the AUG takes apart with no effort at all. I've got a vintage Marui AUG Mil.

The FAMAS takes a billion little screws and pieces.

Edited original comment.

I've used both of Bob's and personally I like the feel of the AUG, but I have never used it in a game. The FA-MAS on the other hand is a very good weapon to have in the feild. Good range, accuracy and ROF. So right now for practical use the FA-MAS for cool factor AUG.

Why isn't the AUG practical?

I've only ever held one at ASCA, but from what I saw/felt, shit, I loved it. Much more than any Fa-mas (in terms of comfort).

I'm also pretty sure the Aug has a smaller profile in it's stock form...

That trigger guard makes me want to do secks to it :p.

The aug can take a 9.6 volt 2300 mah battery no problem. Too small for you?

Meant for size and availability. Link you sent me = added to wishlist, because my battery sucked.

Cheers for that though.

famas uses a eg560 motor which was probably intended for a market of 7.2v batteries. I'm guessing it was TM's first AEG and that most have been over 6 years ago. Its under powered and makes a horrible "RERRRK!" sound at 400+fps. redwolf suggest a 9.6v 2300mah for a m90 spring. http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...il?bulletID=32
And the only reason it shoots so fast is because of the spring load is below 300FPS. Its a TM.

Famas use a 472mm barrel and the AUG uses a 509mm barrel. Using hi-caps can be awkward with bull-pups but you cant find a longer barrel in that size of a package. I don't think either have midcaps.

Get a CA AUG if for nothing else, for the after market parts so you can repair your gun easier.

mateba

I just havn't used it in the feild yet. So I can't honestly talk about its feild performance. Though I'm sure it is a formidable weapon.

Hehe, I haven't used mine in a game either (yay one on Sept 22 here), but it seems to be a tack driver.

Yeah, definately. I wonder why Marui discontinued the AUG Mil, I love the built-in scope.
Also, shoots harder then any stock Marui AEG (minus M14) I've tried in the last while, by the feel of it. Target shooting's a dream, but this Sunday will be the first skirmish I take it to.

Oops actually mine's the rail version. And it has an extended HBAR barrel. And I *think* the spring is slightly upgraded (I already ordered a new spring, coming in about a week or so).

The Aug has a futuristic aesthetic, some like some don't. It's genius how you can swap out front assemblies in seconds— go from a 400fps sniper set up to slapping in a CQB front that drops the fps right to a perfect 350fps.

The Famas was created by a teleportation acident, where an ugly suitcase was merged.

How does that work? You would need to take out the mechbox and change the spring.

OK.... that made me snort... quit it!

As far as replicas of guns... I don't think you can actualy do much better than an AUG...without going significantly up-market, everything metal on the real gun is metal on even the TM version.

They are solid... weighty... and cool looking... in a space marine kind of way...

do not wear bug juice on your face while using one.... dissolved stock stuck to face..... not pretty...

same with the famas, well to get the mechbox out anywho, three screws and the trigger rod connector and its out. the front end it pretty ghey to take apart tho.

i love the look of the famas, not big on the aug, HOWEVER you can only put a g36c rail on place to make it look cool (or go ballistic and do the p90/g36/famas mod) but if you get the augA3 kit.... mmm-mmm...mmm..mmm..mmm. so beautiful. famas is v1 which is sturdy, but dated and difficult to upgrade. aug is v3 which is one of the best designs.... although i lov ethe famas, the aug is a better rifle.

Nope if you upgrade an AUG to fire 400fps with the long front end, the cylinder set-up will lose fps when the short assembly is installed, usually this is a bad effect but since the AUG is soo easy to swap you can turn a negative into a positive. I've got a Patriot kit on an M4 m120 mechbox, and it's only getting 280fps with the extremely short inner barrel, I need to install an mp5K setup to get a quicker/shorter cycle. Colin_S is a great teacher.

Ha! glad to help clear the sinuses Bri :)

Try 15+ years ago.

All though I love the AUG i will say this, paying $60 for a mag sucks ass. With the fames you can use m4 mags with the conversion

I just bought AUG mags for $20 each.
?

in country or out.
I was talking new TM aug mags in canada

From WGC, they're available for $18 each. Besides that, loads of clone hicaps available for a few dollars, $11 for a BE one that feeds perfectly.

Shipping may be a pain, so I'm gonna guess group orders would be necessary.

The FAMAS/M4 mag conversion is a huge pain in the ass, that's why I decided against it.

Well don't buy them in Canada then!
And I'm talking $20 WITH shipping.
And they're genuine TM mags.

Some folks like to support Canadian retailers, and plus in most instances when you buy in Canada its on your door step a few days later. However this does not negate the fact that I hate you for being able to disassemble your entire gun in the amount of time it takes me to remove the stock and tube of mine.

Ahahaha, you know you love me and my AUG Tokyo.

Only a little, if I admit anymore, people will talk, and we cant have that. Are you not supposed to be in class learning at this time?

PICTURE TIME!!!
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...69/topview.jpg

I have owned both. SO I might as well add this picture.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d9...9/c6a72ef6.jpg

Yeah but I go on ASC at school.

:D Same *doing it right now*.

Yeah, I'm in a computer program, so I'm on a computer the whole time I'm at school.

the TM aug does have a tinee bit of creaking going on at the grip especially if you point the muzzle up and then back a bit due to its top heavy nature
I haven't held a CA aug so I'm not too sure how it compares
the aug is ass heavy and it gets annoying when it doesn't stay slinged on my back
but it's damn close to the real steel weight (only like 200g lighter) so I love it for the realism

Did someone say PICTURE TIME?

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...o/IMG_1805.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ithsuit002.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...3Lightened.jpg

Personally, I think the FAMAS looks worlds better once you remove the carry handle.

FORRRR the record, the aug is the most innacurate rifle of its style. (bullpup)

Where'd you get that info? And I assume you mean the real steel version?

lol, i have to disagree. I love the looks of the stock MAS. I don't even particularily like a rail on it (top or bottom, or side).

Crack is bad for you. You know that right?

We both know I actually dont do anything here at work. Accept for today I had a pile of reports to analyse. But since that Ive just been playing battlefield 2 and bumming around on asc.

Yeah I was amazed you had work today. Who knew?!

For some reason my stock FAMAS (chronoe'd at 265 FPS) is getting the same range as my upgraded AUG Mil (356 FPS). I know velocity and accuracy don't have that much correlation, but the AUG has a longer inner barrel and such.
I'm sure there's some reason that I'm too stupid to get.

That's strange. Higher FPS should mean longer range. Are you using the same BB's, etc?

What's wrong with it being French? The French army actually kick ass.

Yep, both times it was Excel .2s. Same sort of results with Excel .25s, same range.

However, my FAMAS has also got the same range as a Redwolf Custom SPR (approx. 480 FPS, round guess) a friend of mine spent $2000 on. It pissed him off more then a little.

You sure? Does it go through the bottom of a can? If it does, it's not shooting 265.

100% sure. We had our organizer chrono both the FAMAS and the AUG, the FAMAS chronoed a constant ~265 and the AUG chronoed a constant (seriously, I thought it was stock when I bought it) 365.

He's got one of these-

http://www.flecktarn.co.uk/graphics/...ach1nx500a.jpg

Or something much like it.

You didn't answer my question (well sort of, not really), but ok.

Never fired it at the bottom of a can, I'm afraid. That method isn't very reliable, actual chronies are a bit better.

I just woke up from a nap actually.

Holy unrelated post Batman.

Holy shit! I'm not the only one who's noticed this! I've made kills with my FAMAS at far greater ranges than with my G36. My 'MAS is lightly upgraded, but shoots only 5 fps harder than the '36, which has a tightbore and should in theory be more accurate. Oddness.

Famas looks so much better. As a real gun, I think it'd win.

Are you drunk?

Didn't you know that how effective guns are is based solely on how they look? Ie, to make a kick ass firearm, all you have to do is make it look awsome!

So...that would mean that in real life.....the FAMAS sucks balls?

Looks are relative. Some people hate the FAMAS, some people love it.

I like the look of it, but I hate the carry handle. Carry handle goes, and it looks pimp. Viral.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion on aesthetics- hell, most Armalite users hate both.

Lol, touche, because I hate armalites as well. :P

Only reason it has high rof is because the gears in it are rated higher then normal high speed gears. The eg560 is high torque so the gears are rated much higher. Has hardly anything to do with the spring. Gear box on a famas is easy to get at like swatt13 said. im currently using an m120 and standard ration gears and an 8.4v battery and the rof has only dropped down to about 14 ish from 17. Now if i put in a 9.6v battery ill get that rof back

The EG560 is built for speed, not torque. Otherwise you'd be able to easily put in more than a 120% in the MAS.

its true, thats how robocop shot all those guys...pimpin' gun.

now since i'm here, I like the aug. Enough so that i have 2. But i really like the Famas as well. Kal's Famas has made kills my upgraded aug couldn't make. Both are fine examples of bullpup engineering.