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WarHawk109 August 16th, 2007 17:05

So, getting my PTW soon.
 
Should be here either later today or tomorrow. Also got an Eotech clone on the way. Yay! :cool:

WarHawk109 August 16th, 2007 18:14

damnit

stupid fedex driver entered in on the computer that he came to my house and no one was home...but I am home and no slip or anything was left on my door. DAMNIT.

spacemoose August 16th, 2007 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarHawk109 (Post 520605)
damnit

stupid fedex driver entered in on the computer that he came to my house and no one was home...but I am home and no slip or anything was left on my door. DAMNIT.

THats what we crooked delivery drivers call "extended lunch"

call fedex about that.

WarHawk109 August 16th, 2007 18:23

I did. And sent an email.

This is rediculous.

Chuuchuu August 16th, 2007 18:51

Wow, make sure you give them mad shit about this issue so this won't happen to the rest of us :D

TokyoSeven August 16th, 2007 19:51

I always have problems with fedex, canada post and UPS in regards to that. Bastards.

Skladfin August 16th, 2007 19:55

fucking purolator did the same shit to me.

Except they did have the slip on the ground in front of the door. The dude probably didn't stick it properly so it got blown there.

WarHawk109 August 16th, 2007 19:58

What's the best shipping company to deal with? I'm always having problems like this. It seems like these guys have absolutely no customer focus, the delivery guys I deal with are almost always assholes too.

Mantelope August 16th, 2007 20:07

If you're shelling out for a PTW, why are you getting a replica Eotech over the real thing?

WarHawk109 August 16th, 2007 20:09

i don't know, it's not as important to me?

TokyoSeven August 16th, 2007 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantelope (Post 520689)
If you're shelling out for a PTW, why are you getting a replica Eotech over the real thing?

If I bought one Id be to poor to eat. Skimping on a few things is cool.
But if I even sense somoene who owns a ptw using crap soft BBs in it, I will fly to where they live and fornicate them with a 12 inch falic shaped device. No softair bb should ever touch a systema gun.

ancorp August 16th, 2007 21:43

Why not use cheaply made 6mm paintballs in it?

DarkAngel August 16th, 2007 22:40

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Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 520742)
Why not use cheaply made 6mm paintballs in it?

I hear they do wonders to your internals :p

emphasis August 16th, 2007 23:00

Hmmm, that’s odd… it’s usually UPS that do that sort of thing…and then $40 brokerage fee crap… avoid UPS like the plague! I’ve never had any problems with FedEx

Have a little sympathy for them, it’s hard to keep schedule some days!

TokyoSeven August 16th, 2007 23:00

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Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 520742)
Why not use cheaply made 6mm paintballs in it?


You.

Your getting something special for even joking about it.
All Tokyo baby, no lube. Bite the headboard, Im going in dry.

Coma August 16th, 2007 23:04

For certain that was the most twisted comment of the day.

ancorp August 16th, 2007 23:08

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Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 520810)
You.

Your getting something special for even joking about it.
All Tokyo baby, no lube. Bite the headboard, Im going in dry.

:eek: I'll never look at your posts the same way again. Dicksmack.

Lakonian August 16th, 2007 23:28

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Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 520820)
:eek: I'll never look at your posts the same way again. Dicksmack.

What's with all the buttsecks? And Ancorp, why the fuck aren't I invited?!

WarkHawk , you bastard. Don't forget to send me some pictures... (or you shall experience aids)

Nik12 August 16th, 2007 23:42

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 520836)
or you shall experience aids

Sadly, you only get one taste of it.

TokyoSeven August 16th, 2007 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 520820)
:eek: I'll never look at your posts the same way again.

We share a special bond now.
I call big spoon. (^_^)

Lakonian August 16th, 2007 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 520859)
We share a special bond now.
I call big spoon. (^_^)

LMFAO!

TokyoSeven August 16th, 2007 23:49

Think thats funny, wait till he gets the PM with the homoerotic photos of me.

Im kidding. No really, I am.

*zip*

WarChild7 August 17th, 2007 00:04

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Originally Posted by WarHawk109 (Post 520577)
Should be here either later today or tomorrow. Also got an Eotech clone on the way. Yay! :cool:

Congratulations dude! you're going to love it! i got mine last tuesday. it's utterly fantastic. the most scariest, most awesome, uber-gun of all time. extraordinarily expensive, but damn, worth every cent!

i got the MAX M4 with 3-round burst. took it to one of our small skirms with about 50 people on sunday and tried it out....wow! shot further and better than any gun i've ever owned. the 3-round burst rocks! it makes such a distinct sound compared to any other gun on the field that everyone always knew where i was. the gearbox sounds effortless when it fires, not whiney like most other guns, but turns over so hard the gun has a small amount of recoil.

you're gonna love it. again, congrats!

oh, by the way, if you need any mags, batteries or extra cylinders, let me know....we are a systema PTW dealer.

Lakonian August 17th, 2007 00:10

Arrgghh.. all of you are making me want mine noww.... Shit. November is so far away...

TokyoSeven August 17th, 2007 00:11

Ive got something you might want...

Lakonian August 17th, 2007 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 520905)
Ive got something you might want...

hehehe.. RLY now?

WarChild7 August 17th, 2007 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 520900)
Arrgghh.. all of you are making me want mine noww.... Shit. November is so far away...

save yourself a lot of money and buy the Challenge Kit and put it together yourself. it's not hard, takes maybe one or two evenings, and only costs $900.

if you want to see the manual to decide if you can handle the assembly yourself, you can download it here:
http://www.zshot.com/download/SCK_Draft.pdf

Lakonian August 17th, 2007 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 520929)
save yourself a lot of money and buy the Challenge Kit and put it together yourself. it's not hard, takes maybe one or two evenings, and only costs $900.

if you want to see the manual to decide if you can handle the assembly yourself, you can download it here:
http://www.zshot.com/download/SCK_Draft.pdf

It costs $1,600+ here :(

I'm getting the pre-assembled MAX M4A1... >_<

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 07:08

haha 900....ya :(

WarChild7 August 17th, 2007 11:17

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 520957)
It costs $1,600+ here :(

I'm getting the pre-assembled MAX M4A1... >_<

$1600 for the kit?!? wow! that's what a pre-assembled MAX goes for here.

if you don't mind me asking, how much does the full gun cost you guys? what about pricing on cylinders, mags and batteries?

Maverick0 August 17th, 2007 11:41

A&A has the M4 MAX listed at 2499.95$ + shipping. Jeeeeeeeeeesus.

The M16A3 is like 500 less or so.

These things look pretty bad ass though. Wish I didn't have a get a new car...

Lakonian August 17th, 2007 12:18

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Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 521117)
$1600 for the kit?!? wow! that's what a pre-assembled MAX goes for here.

if you don't mind me asking, how much does the full gun cost you guys? what about pricing on cylinders, mags and batteries?

Can't release that info ;)

They generally go for $1,900-$2,500 , though.

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 521117)
$1600 for the kit?!? wow! that's what a pre-assembled MAX goes for here.

if you don't mind me asking, how much does the full gun cost you guys? what about pricing on cylinders, mags and batteries?

I don't want to talk about it. :(

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 17:05

so yeah, according to fedex it will be here in 1/2 an hour

mcguyver August 17th, 2007 17:06

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Originally Posted by Mantelope (Post 520689)
If you're shelling out for a PTW, why are you getting a replica Eotech over the real thing?

For me, the cost savings to outfit not 1, not 2 but 3 PTWs is itself the cost of a PTW.

Guys can argue over real vs. clone, but when my clone-equipped PTW tags a guy at 300+ feet, real makes absolutely no difference. Funny thing is, I've done that to guys with the real EoTech, when their gun fell 100 feet short of me.

The gun means everything. What you put on it means nothing as long as it doesn't intefere with the operation or structural integrity of the gun.

Use a clone if you want. The real one doesn't perform any better on an airsoft gun.

CDN_Stalker August 17th, 2007 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantelope (Post 520689)
If you're shelling out for a PTW, why are you getting a replica Eotech over the real thing?

Maybe that's why he got a replica? Spent too much money on the gun, not much left over for the aiming device. Lol, kind a like:

"Hey, why are you bothering to bend over to pick up a stupid penny? You are a millionaire!"

"How did you think I became a millionaire? <wink>"

Nik12 August 17th, 2007 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarHawk109 (Post 521283)
so yeah, according to fedex it will be here in 1/2 an hour

Hour later...no reponse?

Safe to assume he's enjoying his new toy? Or still waiting by the door?

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 18:19

still waiting...damn fedex

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 19:08

it finally arrived.

i'm trying to get the receiver open but it won't give, is there something I am missing?

ILLusion August 17th, 2007 19:15

Pop out the rear pin, and using some force, you can pop the receiver open.

Best way is to place the gun in your lap, right side facing you, handle towards your stomach, barrel aiming to your right.

Wrap your left fingers around the buffer tube, and use your thumb to push up on the forward-assist knob. Might need to use your right hand to help push up on the forward-assist knob. Use your left hand's fingers to maintain downward pressure on the buffer tube.

It's a safer way than "slapping" it open like some videos show. Yeah, you can do it to a real steel gun, but it doesn't mean you *SHOULD* do it. Be gentle with anything and it will last longer.

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 19:36

i got it open once, does it get easier after a bit of wear?

cndzn August 17th, 2007 19:46

Yep they do WarHawk. Once it has been opened a few times it will get a little easier.
The first time I tried opening mine I was afraid I was going to damage something due to the amount of effort I had to use.

And at least there are 2 PTW's on 'the Island'.......I am sure a few more will be added to the total in the future *wink*

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 19:51

Oh hey tristan, game on tomorrow? ;)

cndzn August 17th, 2007 19:58

Usual place and time Warhawk!! check ya pms.

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 21:14

K, nevermind...forgot I had two chargers, doh!

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 22:02

just test fired it.

omg


the rate of fire is AMAZING, and it shoots incredibly straight.

I have the CQBR version btw

pics to follow

DuffMan August 17th, 2007 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 520810)
You.

Your getting something special for even joking about it.
All Tokyo baby, no lube. Bite the headboard, Im going in dry.

I can't beleive I missed this. Shotty next.

WarHawk109 August 17th, 2007 22:47

my ptw with eotech clone, and kjw p229 for good measure ;)

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3623/ptwkg8.th.jpg

mcguyver August 17th, 2007 23:05

I see. You'll be liking this gun when you get to game it. Spend some time with the hop-up so that you get the sweet spot. Then it's all magic!!

Just remember to perform some regular maintenance (just like any precision instrument) and you'll have alot of good gaming from it.

Congrats on your new acquisition and welcome to Club MAX!!!

Lakonian August 17th, 2007 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 521461)
welcome to Club MAX!!!

Wow, that wasn't homo at all! :p

Yeah. Goodluck with your new toy, warhawk! Do you like what's behind the ejection port cover? :p

mcguyver August 17th, 2007 23:12

Hey Kos, I would've used the lisp emoticon, but I couldn't find it, lol!!

WarHawk109 August 18th, 2007 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 521465)
Wow, that wasn't homo at all! :p

Yeah. Goodluck with your new toy, warhawk! Do you like what's behind the ejection port cover? :p

it's just the cylinder

Skladfin August 18th, 2007 01:16

are all PTWs grayish like that?

The pics in Gun Digest 2007 and here shows that it's pretty damn gray...

I also don't understand... what makes these PTWs so special from other AEGs?

dontask August 18th, 2007 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 521530)
I also don't understand... what makes these PTWs so special from other AEGs?

wait lemme get the popcorn going....

stokes August 18th, 2007 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 521530)
I also don't understand... what makes these PTWs so special from other AEGs?


You kidding right? You must be... to ask a question like that.

TokyoSeven August 18th, 2007 01:33

TM s like the KD of airsoft, original, good, decent and satisfying.

A systema gun is like KD, where the noodles are plated in gold and covered in diamonds and the cheese sauce is actually a pool of naked hot women.

Skladfin August 18th, 2007 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 521542)
TM s like the KD of airsoft, original, good, decent and satisfying.

A systema gun is like KD, where the noodles are plated in gold and covered in diamonds and the cheese sauce is actually a pool of naked hot women.

That explains everything...

TokyoSeven August 18th, 2007 01:38

I will allow someone who has a better understanding of how a systema work to explain.
Im not worthy.

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 521546)
I will allow someone who has a better understanding of how a systema work to explain.
Im not worthy.

A PTW is a training weapon, not an AEG. It is built from much higher quality parts, and built to a higher standard. Also, from my understanding, there is absolutely NO monkey metal infused into this gun's receiver, or anywhere else (I could be wrong, but I sure fuckin' hope not).

Heh, not to mention the functioning bolt-release, and fully retractable charging handle. OR.. the fact that it's built exactly like (dimension wise) a Real Steel AR...Actually, didn't you (mcguyver) say that it actually seems like it's better finished than your bushmaster (ew) ?

EDIT: There's just tooo much to say about the PTW.. and I don't even own one yet.

Tex August 18th, 2007 02:15

A quick look at the pic's of the challenger kit and you can see why they are so great. I just hope they hurry up with their PTW handgun. no more buying tm and missmatch parts to build a killer piece.

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 521563)
A quick look at the pic's of the challenger kit and you can see why they are so great. I just hope they hurry up with their PTW handgun. no more buying tm and missmatch parts to build a killer piece.

Handgun? Why not get a WA 1911. Closest to the real thing you can get.

Mantelope August 18th, 2007 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 521285)
For me, the cost savings to outfit not 1, not 2 but 3 PTWs is itself the cost of a PTW.

Guys can argue over real vs. clone, but when my clone-equipped PTW tags a guy at 300+ feet, real makes absolutely no difference. Funny thing is, I've done that to guys with the real EoTech, when their gun fell 100 feet short of me.

The gun means everything. What you put on it means nothing as long as it doesn't intefere with the operation or structural integrity of the gun.

Use a clone if you want. The real one doesn't perform any better on an airsoft gun.

After a long, hard think and discussions with my friends, I've decided I'll get a 512 clone too. It's a shame there's no M500A clone that'll fit though, so I still gotta shell out $350 to get one.

Tex August 18th, 2007 02:26

I will wait to see what comes from Systema, their website says they are developing SMG and handgun. and im happy with the one I got for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 521567)
Handgun? Why not get a WA 1911. Closest to the real thing you can get.


ILLusion August 18th, 2007 02:49

trying to understand why systema is "so good" is impossible.

For me, I had the question as well....


... but as soon as I held a PTW, the fate of my three "standard" armalite AEGs was determined: "sell them - acquire PTW."

You just can't describe it. It must be felt...

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 03:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 521579)
trying to understand why systema is "so good" is impossible.

For me, I had the question as well....


... but as soon as I held a PTW, the fate of my three "standard" armalite AEGs was determined: "sell them - acquire PTW."

You just can't describe it. It must be felt...


Hahaha. Did the PTW's owner make you clean the jizms off his gun? Or did you do it voluntarily ?

ILLusion August 18th, 2007 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 521589)
Hahaha. Did the PTW's owner make you clean the jizms off his gun? Or did you do it voluntarily ?

I couldn't help but lick it off. It didn't matter if it were mine, his, or a stray dog's...

... all that mattered, was that it was a PTW. Once you grip that barrel in your hand, all you want to do is just keep stroking that shaft...

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 521592)
I couldn't help but lick it off. It didn't matter if it were mine, his, or a stray dog's...

... all that mattered, was that it was a PTW. Once you grip that barrel in your hand, all you want to do is just keep stroking that shaft...

:( I r sad naos.

Eh, do any of you guys know if systema makes a 20 round mag (car-15 style)?

mcguyver August 18th, 2007 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 521593)
:( I r sad naos.

Eh, do any of you guys know if systema makes a 20 round mag (car-15 style)?

They do make a 30 round mag for Mil/LE markets and I have seen guys mod those by cutting the internals, gluing them together and stuffing it inside a real VN 20 round mag.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 521558)
A PTW is a training weapon, not an AEG. It is built from much higher quality parts, and built to a higher standard. Also, from my understanding, there is absolutely NO monkey metal infused into this gun's receiver, or anywhere else (I could be wrong, but I sure fuckin' hope not).

Heh, not to mention the functioning bolt-release, and fully retractable charging handle. OR.. the fact that it's built exactly like (dimension wise) a Real Steel AR...Actually, didn't you (mcguyver) say that it actually seems like it's better finished than your bushmaster (ew) ?

EDIT: There's just tooo much to say about the PTW.. and I don't even own one yet.

The receivers unfortunately are alloy, as a real 7075 T6 aluminum forged receiver would violate Japanese law and we wouldn't fair much better here either. The hop-up cage is also alloy, but that's pretty much it. The charging handle is a real one, but it's fixed when the receivers are closed and is used to remove the cylinder when the receivers are open.

And yeah, the fit and finish is better than my real AR.

Hold a PTW and you're sold. The performance is all gravy.

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 10:32

But I'm pretty sure it can take alot more than a G&P, or G&G body..

Nik12 August 18th, 2007 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 521542)
TM s like the KD of airsoft, original, good, decent and satisfying.

A systema gun is like KD, where the noodles are plated in gold and covered in diamonds and the cheese sauce is actually a pool of naked hot women.

There is just one problem with that...You can't eat that plated gold KD like you could the regular KD...So what you are saying is that Systema is like TM, except it doesn't do the same job, instead it's just really expensive eye candy.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tex (Post 521570)
I will wait to see what comes from Systema, their website says they are developing SMG and handgun. and im happy with the one I got for now.

Oh!? Which SMG? I suppose I could not be lazy and look it up for myself...

WarChild7 August 18th, 2007 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 521530)
I also don't understand... what makes these PTWs so special from other AEGs?

here's some links for you to read on just what makes the PTW so different, and better:

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Info/PlanetaryGearBox.aspx

http://www.zshot.com/TB-060615.asp

http://www.zshot.com/download/CutShe...hHighlight.pdf

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Files/Description_of_MAX.pdf

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Files/Des..._MAX_Parts.pdf

http://www.zshot.com/download/SCK_Draft.pdf


Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 521579)
trying to understand why systema is "so good" is impossible.

For me, I had the question as well....

... but as soon as I held a PTW, the fate of my three "standard" armalite AEGs was determined: "sell them - acquire PTW."

You just can't describe it. It must be felt...

Illusion has summed it pretty well....words just don't do this thing justice. Once you hold one and shoot it, well, just put everything else you have up for sale, and pull out your credit card.....nothing else compares. you won't need or want anything else.

i own an airsoft store, and thus, pretty much have my pick of anything i want. my personal weapons are typically some of the scariest weapons in our
league. most of them have obscene amounts of money invested in them, with the best of everything. now that i got a PTW, every other gun in my personal arsenal is now up for sale.

if you have the opportunity to ever get a PTW, just do it. sell all your other guns, sell your first-born child, sell your soul. whatever you need to do, you won't regret it.

it is, simply, the best. the uber gun.

Tex August 18th, 2007 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik12 (Post 521647)

Oh!? Which SMG? I suppose I could not be lazy and look it up for myself...

The website only says SMG type guns and handguns so....

ZeroDown420 August 18th, 2007 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 521542)
TM s like the KD of airsoft, original, good, decent and satisfying.

A systema gun is like KD, where the noodles are plated in gold and covered in diamonds and the cheese sauce is actually a pool of naked hot women.

... i love you!

Skladfin August 18th, 2007 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 521657)
here's some links for you to read on just what makes the PTW so different, and better:

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Info/PlanetaryGearBox.aspx

http://www.zshot.com/TB-060615.asp

http://www.zshot.com/download/CutShe...hHighlight.pdf

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Files/Description_of_MAX.pdf

http://www.systema-ptw.com/Files/Des..._MAX_Parts.pdf

http://www.zshot.com/download/SCK_Draft.pdf




Illusion has summed it pretty well....words just don't do this thing justice. Once you hold one and shoot it, well, just put everything else you have up for sale, and pull out your credit card.....nothing else compares. you won't need or want anything else.

i own an airsoft store, and thus, pretty much have my pick of anything i want. my personal weapons are typically some of the scariest weapons in our
league. most of them have obscene amounts of money invested in them, with the best of everything. now that i got a PTW, every other gun in my personal arsenal is now up for sale.

if you have the opportunity to ever get a PTW, just do it. sell all your other guns, sell your first-born child, sell your soul. whatever you need to do, you won't regret it.

it is, simply, the best. the uber gun.

reading...

Lakonian August 18th, 2007 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 521657)

i own an airsoft store, and thus, pretty much have my pick of anything i want. my personal weapons are typically some of the scariest weapons in our
league. most of them have obscene amounts of money invested in them, with the best of everything. now that i got a PTW, every other gun in my personal arsenal is now up for sale.

if you have the opportunity to ever get a PTW, just do it. sell all your other guns, sell your first-born child, sell your soul. whatever you need to do, you won't regret it.

Your store looks pretty crazy, man...

God damn Canada..

mcguyver August 19th, 2007 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 522246)
Stop by sometime....we had 9 different people from Canada come in just yesterday and buy everything ranging from pistols to SAW's. Crossing the border back into your country is really a non-issue; of the last 50+ trips back home by your fellow countrymen, only one car load has ever had anything taken by customs.

1 in 50? That's terrible!!! You have better odds with drugs or illegal guns. Ask the gangs up here.

Skladfin August 19th, 2007 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 522246)
Stop by sometime....we had 9 different people from Canada come in just yesterday and buy everything ranging from pistols to SAW's. Crossing the border back into your country is really a non-issue; of the last 50+ trips back home by your fellow countrymen, only one car load has ever had anything taken by customs.

ive been suspecting this issue for a period now.

"Is it REALLY necessary to have a proper license to import Airsoft guns?"

That's the question there.

I've had Mk23 type silencer shipped from WGC shop to here. And the customs had inspected it and evidently opened up my package to see the silencer.

When I was taxed, the customs receipt had the following written:

Shipment Value: $280 - GUNS, Parts - Tax: $xxxx

So they ACTUALLY knew that it was a "Gun" part and they actually gotten it to me.

I don't have ANY firearms license or anything, neither does anyone living on my address.

I had just emailed CBSA about this.

Hoping to get a reply soon.

mcguyver August 19th, 2007 15:48

Paintball guns are not "perfectly legal" in Canada. Trust me, I've fought Customs on this a time or 2 before. If it looks like a gun, hoses or not, they can and will classify it as a "replica", which means prohibited. I have fought them on appeal and lost more than I won.

You may have had some success selling to Canadians. But most Canadians have not had success. Why do you think there are no retailers in Canada? The paintball trick has been tried before and to no avail.

You may get lucky and get a CBSA agent who could care less, or you may get one that actually enforces their own published policies. Like any civil service, you take your chances.

Most gun parts are legal to import without a license. The CBSA has a watchlist of certain parts, like lower receivers, FA kits for AR's, etc.

Skladfin August 19th, 2007 16:18

no wonder so many people from the states had been able to bring their Airsoft guns here.

I will try it when I'm going seattle this year =DDDD

Dracheous August 19th, 2007 23:38

WarChild7 its still smuggling, and thats an illegal act. Last I checked your country has a fun time trying to stop such things; doesn't help when it gets promoted to the public.


Sure, you can get away with at the border, but not getting caught doesn't make it any less of a crime then if you were caught.

Skladfin August 20th, 2007 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 522475)
WarChild7 its still smuggling, and thats an illegal act. Last I checked your country has a fun time trying to stop such things; doesn't help when it gets promoted to the public.


Sure, you can get away with at the border, but not getting caught doesn't make it any less of a crime then if you were caught.

It wouldn't really be considered smuggling if the customs officer(The dude in charge that was talked to) agrees?

That seems like the gray area.

ancorp August 20th, 2007 00:54

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Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 522498)
It wouldn't really be considered smuggling if the customs officer(The dude in charge that was talked to) agrees?

That seems like the gray area.

Ditto, just like airsoft is in the gray area.

Lakonian August 20th, 2007 00:55

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Originally Posted by WarChild7 (Post 522246)
Stop by sometime....we had 9 different people from Canada come in just yesterday and buy everything ranging from pistols to SAW's. Crossing the border back into your country is really a non-issue; of the last 50+ trips back home by your fellow countrymen, only one car load has ever had anything taken by customs.

I'll check it out, bud!

I'll be needing some serious PTW mag-age :p soon.. hahah

WarChild7 August 20th, 2007 14:10

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Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 522475)
WarChild7 its still smuggling, and thats an illegal act. Last I checked your country has a fun time trying to stop such things; doesn't help when it gets promoted to the public.


Sure, you can get away with at the border, but not getting caught doesn't make it any less of a crime then if you were caught.

it's not smuggling when you declare at the customs booth what you're bringing back, which is, by law, what you're supposed to do.. if the customs agent is aware of what you have, and allows you to proceed, what have you done that's illegal?

ybrik August 22nd, 2007 15:45

where can one order systema PTW? How about g&p rifles? I checked at aasurplus.ca but it was out of stock, I also emailed Mark last week but until now I haven't got any reply.

WarHawk109 August 22nd, 2007 17:05

i got mine from a&a

LUTNIT August 22nd, 2007 17:19

I asked about a PTW from A&A and he told me as long as its in stock at redwolfairsoft.com or wgcshop.com he can get it within 2-3 weeks.

ybrik August 23rd, 2007 13:32

thanks guys. how does one get age-verified at a&a?

LUTNIT August 23rd, 2007 14:18

As far as I know they don't have an age verification system, I have ordered from them many times but have never done anything to confirm my age. Maybe they check ASC?

bruce August 23rd, 2007 14:28

Madmax is selling a Systema CQBR PTW for a good price. You should try and contact him.

LUTNIT August 23rd, 2007 14:32

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Originally Posted by bruce (Post 524770)
Madmax is selling a Systema CQBR PTW for a good price. You should try and contact him.

Ah, from your post in his sale thread I thought you where after it there Bruce...does anyone in Montreal currently have a PTW? I'm pretty sure no one in Ottawa does yet but mine should be here soon :D

ybrik would have to get age verified here on ASC before he could get the PTW from Madmax.

bruce August 23rd, 2007 14:39

Maybe there's more than 1 for sale. ;)

I'm not sure if anyone on the island has one yet......

DC_ACU August 23rd, 2007 15:55

by the time he gets age verified it'll be sold. remember, its a month long minimum process. iv been waiting like, 5

ybrik August 24th, 2007 13:59

how to get age verified here at ASC? do i need something like requests for the moderator?

Lakonian August 24th, 2007 14:04

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 524811)
by the time he gets age verified it'll be sold.

I'm pretty sure Hondatech is grabbing it. Very sooon :p

Brian McIlmoyle August 24th, 2007 14:05

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Originally Posted by ybrik (Post 525419)
how to get age verified here at ASC? do i need something like requests for the moderator?



you must meet in person with an age verification Agent


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