US Special Forces
 

this is my take on the Us Special Forces operator impression. None of my kits are ever 100% true to life, but more to my specific tastes. This mentality goes well with SF type kits, as they use what works. hell, I've seen a photo where on man made a sling out of duct-tape. the whole sling haha.


anyways, heres some pics with the kit list!

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8493/p1000326cd1.jpg

OD ball cap
od shamagh
CF issue wool sweater (will wear black or OD t shirt in summer, or 3-color jacket)
Phantom plate carrier
US webbing (y susp. pistol belt, King Arms buttpack, drop leg holster and dump pouch)
3-color desert pants
issued desert boots

man your one sexy bitch graham lol. all you need now is a pair of shades and one mean ass beard.

Nice paint job on the 14, yeah a big bugger beard is definately the iceing on the cake so to speak...

haha, I just shaved my beard about a week ago (much to itchy!)

Swatt13, I'm into chicks (not hicks), sorry. maybe in another life time haha.

Pip, yeah the m14 turned out pretty good for half an hour in the basement with Testors spray cans hah

GET DIRTY.

Grow some facial hair, will more closely resemble the part.

get some oakley's an ditch the earrings

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1108/mege5.jpg

new gear, better look

still not hardcore enough to grow a beard (had one, to damn itchy)

1. ditch the shemagh.

2. take off the special forces patch (Almost no one in real life wears it anyhow).

3. if you are handy with a sewing machine, remove the upper and lower pockets on your jacket, move the lower pockets to where the upper was originally, then move the upper pockets to your arms side of your arms at an angle, most SF use modded jackets like this so when wearing armor they still have access to their pockets.

4. change your ciras pouch setup. Center the mag pouches, take out the grenade one, consider putting in the radio one if anything just for looks. Consider moving your pistol one lower, and centering your admin pouch too.
Also, if you have the cash, buy a tan maritime instead, otherwise, consider painting your od land tan, even if you are doing a woodland impression, it will look alot better when you do that.

5. wear your duty belt over your top, and tuck your top into your pants. Both are optional, I just think they look neater and professional.

thanks for your input.

like I stated in my original post, I usually just go with what works for me, and keep my look loosely based on the SF

+1

I have quite some pictures of SF in woodland RAV, woodland and OD AWS CQB carrier, so IMO the OD CIRAS is OK if he's not going for 100% perfect.
The Tan CIRAS are quite new trend in the SF community I'd say. I even have a picture of an operator in Philipines who wears a woodland IBA!!

Personnaly I would put a small utility pouch instead of the pistol mag pouch

then where would I put my pistol mags? hmmmmmm? haha

I'll take a look at it tonight, see if I can clean it up a bit

Well it's all up to you in the end, but most pics I have, the pistol mags are carried on a belt (LC3 or MOLLE)

alot of guys will carry their pistol mags on thier primary line (belt) so that if they have to quick ditch their armor they still have ammo for thier secondary weapon.

true, I have seen many photos where guys are wearing their pistol mags on their belts.

I might ditch one of my m4 pouches, as I never carry 10 mags anyways... and move my pistol pouch down there, easier to reach anyways

Cool stuff mate. I love when gear and gun is inspired by something and not fully replicated.

Special Forces do what works for them, they don't copy each other so your inspiration is the perfect one. If this kit works for you, you've got the perfect SF kit.

They don't copy but it's hella similar!

No offence, but that is the cliched excuse I hear from alot of semi knowledgeble people and non geardos on gear.

From the thousands of SF and SOF pictures I have seen there is most of the time a very strong underlining consistency in the way certain things are done.

SOF is limited in
1. What kit they are issued
2. What is practical...there is less variation than one would like to imagine.
3. Personalization

Those who use the above excuse usualy follow none or very little of one of these underlining concepts, hence, why their kit falls very short of looking much like SF.

I can understand Graham is just roughly winging it, which is fine, its the way he wants to do things, and I can respect that.

However for anyone to claim that it is somehow following what true SF is, is well, just not true.

The "whatever works" was mostly in the 80's where you could see almost anything

Yuxi, you might actually like this ;)

http://www.specwarfare.it/public/php...php?t=4516????

Yuxi, I was not mentionning that whatever he does will make him look like a SF op. You've misread me.

Most SF ops use similar kits because they simply work well and when one SF op finds a new way to wear his kit, his buddies might like the idea and adopt that new kit.

In the end, I love kits that have creativity put in them. I am not a gear whore and I do not like to replicate an existing kit. I'm a Designer by trade so in other words I create my own worlds including gear.

The team I'm building is based off on Private Contractors but I will not be wearing tan pants with a tshirt simply because I prefer to put creativity into my own kit and do not necessarily want to replicate the existing ones.

Cassius, do you live in some fantasy world where creativity and historicaly acurate impressions go hand in hand?

I don't see why people are getting so uppidy here...

if you read my original post I said my kit isn't a 100% accurate impression....

I appreciate the input you guys are giving me, and accept constructive criticism. if you don't like my kit, and dont have anything constructive to say (read; H-G) don't post

Did my post have anything to do with you Graham?

Oh boy, this thread could use some de-escalation.

1. None of us are actually criticizing you Graham (Including H-G), it is rather actually Cassius’ post we are responding to. H-G is a bit of a grump, worse than me at times.

I should make myself clear, I thought you put in a great effort, this is an improvement from your first picture, and I have no doubt your stuff will just get better with time. Keep up the good work dude!

The work is never done for any of us who are interested in gear. Frankly H-G shits on what gear I choose even now, and I the same to him now and then, sometimes it is preferences, sometimes he is just frankly right about what is more accurate. However, I do think none of us are directly trying to put you down with our posts here.

Yes, I do think I might have misread you then, I do apologize for it.

In terms of gear, yes, there is room for creativity certainly. However, there are certain constraints many of us adhere to.

The more puritan geardos will not do anything they have not seen a real SOF trooper do. I am less strict, I am free to things like gear art, like helmet paintings etc. In essence, I give the ‘imagination’ some leeway, in that if I think a SF trooper might use such a kit, I would wear it and allow my team mates to do so, however things just must be kept in moderation, and the ultimate one who decides requires good sense and enough experience in gear to know what is simply realistic and what is not.

3. Pvt. Vince
Thanks dude! That’s wicked, I had only a few pics from that set, but not even at that great a resolution, definitely wicked to see the rest.

i found grahn lol, second from the left
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/405/file4306gj7.jpg

Wow , its a little eerie seeing some of those seal pics. Most of the guys in the pics were KIA in afghanistan. They are referred to in the book Lone Survivor.
RIP.

Graham; sorry mate.

Yuxi; word.

H-G; Yes, I do. I make video games :p

LOL Yuxi man what happened?

Every member of an ODA has a specific role and tasks specific to that role. That's why you see variation in equipment, although there are always elements of uniformity. An 18E will be carrying all kinds of commo shit while an 18D is loaded with VOK's and other pharmakit.

Regardless, they all train on the same range. They learn from the same instructors. They shoot thousands and thousands of rounds in a manner that was ingrained into them, and therefore they wear shit in particular places because muscle memory and training dictates it be that way.

If you're going to do an SF impression, and call it an SF impression, then do it right. Otherwise, it's not an SF impression at all.

rgr that and kind of eerie seeing the lone survivor the only one not wearing kit.. RIP.

2nd that.

i was wondering what the hell you guys were talking about,m trying to pull some sort of " i know something you dont know" bs, but then i looked around and found the links truely is shocking to say the least to read that 90% of those pictured are kia. i encourage others to read up and realise what it means to wear their patch, and think about it before you slap it on your kit (no stab at you grahm)
http://www.specwarfare.it/public/php...pic.php?t=1466
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...ad.php?t=71680

posted by SOF on specwarefare

Interesting.

Go read Lone Survivor, it is Marcus Luttrell's account of Operation Redwing, it's an awesome book.

Just a quick question guys. Have been thinking about putting a SF load together , i've been running contractor-esque loads but wanted something more badass haha.

Are the SF guys in Afghanistan still using 3 colour? Or have they switched to digi patterns? Also, would 3 colour pants and a woodland jacket be fairly authentic?

As of Summer 2007, DCUs were still being used by US SF for combat operations in the middle east. As to weather a BDU / DCU combo would be authentic for a current impression, I cannot say.

H-G

Cerberus you asks?

http://www.amosink.com/Publication/Cerberus.jpg

heh it's more of a 'can I get some guys together to go' kind of thing

rgr that!

So, I'm going for an impresion of a US SOF Operatior (ACU, Molle, IBH, etc) and I'm looking at the M14 as of late. Is this realistic? I'm looking at an AEG with a little better range/accuracy but I'd like to stay within the boundaries of SOF.

Cheers.

theres a force recon marine on a movie forum i frequent he said he used an m14 most of his time on deployment

not alot of info but hope it helps

cheers

If you want some general thing, I think that will do. Would be of more help of there is a specific branch in mind, like SEALs or SF, etc, since their gear though are similar, do have trademark differences, from helmet and rig types, down to the type of flashlights and rails. :D

Realistically the m14's having been phased out by most of the sf units in favor of the mk11 or the new M110 Semi-Auto Sniper System. You can see a few versions of the mk11 and mk12 posted in the previos navy seal pics a few pages back. As yuxi has suggested though a more specific branch to base your gear off of is not a bad idea.

Probably heading toward a more Army Special Forces (Green Berets) look rather than a Delta Force or Navy SEALS. I'm not trying to perfectly imitate anyone but to grasp a general look.

TBH, I saw the CONTRAS thread in the team forums and liked the look. So I started to collect pieces and to check out different iterations of SF, and now I need is an AEG to achieve a basic loadout.

SF dudes I've seen out here are wearin ACU, but thats just on camp, no clue if they wear that or DCUs out on a mission.

Hey Sturmur, I posted my collection of categorized photos a while back which you might find useful if you have not already downloaded it.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=44140

For a general look, all you really need is CIRAS (with a good choice of pouches, i.e. nothing too fancy, but wisely arranged), a MICH2000 (with the regular NVG mount for army), ACU, some sort of desert boots, and a M4 RIS.

Though you might find SEAL stuff to be both more interesting, as well as less restrictive in what you can use. Just a heads up too, the IBH is typically considered a SEAL item.

IMO a very good SEAL or SF setup can be created for about $6-800 given the wide choices of very high quality replicas of SOF equipment out there today (discounting the cost of guns of course), so long as one does not make any junk purchases along the way, which unfortunately most people can not avoid while in a process of trial and error.

Yeah, the M110 is a beauty of a gun.

I've got one of these on the drawing board, just need a few more parts and the gun is done :) As for the Green Berets, just go with standard army ranger look.

DD

Nice. I like the shemagh. It's a good and popular tool of protection from the sun and BBs.

One thing that jumps out at me is the non ballistic helmet, not sure the skate helmet you've got really works for the impression you have going.

The taclight is on the wrong side of your rifle. You put it on the same side as the ejection port if you're right handed. Two reasons:

1) So that you can turn it on with your thumb while gripping the vert grip
2) More importantly, you always lay a rifle down with the ejection port up.

This is mostly a technicality but since I'm a left-handed shooter then having my flashlight on the left side of my gun makes sense, right ? Only problem being that airsoft doesn't allow me to have a left-handed receiver.

Yup, that's a valid point. Biggest thing there is that if you lay the rifle down to fire over cover (for example if you have to use a vehicle for cover) the E-port is up so the rifle can cycle properly. If your flashlight is on the other side, it's interfere with your firing position.

It's tough to explain....have to demonstrate some time.

Nah I get you on that one so in my case I'm fucked unless I work a lot more on my weak side. I have to admit that for general purpose it makes a lot more sense to have any side accessories on the right side.

Here's my Army 5th group Summer 2007 impression (work in progress)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5...oland4ufz2.jpg

Sexy time. I heard you just had your blaster painted. Any pics?

I'm seeing alot of fanny packs now. I was gonna ask Farmboy if he had any TAG fanny packs in, but forgot to when I was there. Looks good, man.

Thanks dude! If you don't mind me asking, what would you be using yours for? I usually just have a bunch of tools and electrical tape in there.

That sounds about right. Other creature comforts related to airsoft could find their way in there as well. Like spare batteries, bag of ammo, etc.

Do I spy a SFLCS triple mag wedge?

I'm guessing you based this off the Nat Geo doc on them?

Yeah it is!

It's mostly based off the US/Polish SF pics but there's some influence from a few other photos of SF in iraq


Hopefully at the end of the month I can have photos taken of the completed impression. :)

hey guys,

I've been looking around for 2 days without any answer.
I don't know if I should post this in the USMC thread or here but here we go.

Does the USMC have a SF group like the Green Berets ?
If they do, does anyone have a link or something?

Also Links of photos would be greatly appreciate!

Sorry if its not in the good thread!

Thanks a bunch guys!

They have their Force Recon, which is part of their M.E.U. SOC (Special Operations Capable).

Google either Force Recon or MEU SOC, and you'll get all the answers you're looking for, buddy.

...or rent Heartbreak Ridge. :D

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/3499/mrmeor5.jpg

2002ish US 3rd SFG impression, just to keep the thread alive :)
ELCS + TASC 1 and a few other goodies, pretty simple stuff.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2246/b5ppwl.jpg

US SF and Canadian Engineers steez taken last week. Hope you guys enjoy :)

Some SF do use 3 hole Norotos.
Last picture one guy is using the club foot stock.

Holy shit.
Only people I have seen wearing DTS. One of the "Teams" and an STT squad from AFSOC.
So Army....no. It would be a major stretch to consider an embed too. maybe multicam with a PJ.

...I'm not sure about it being issued...BUT I know it's still in use with some of the older guys because it works, and works well. Life was so much easier for a troopie before the age of vests and armour...My first tour overseas was in Cyprus and we wore chicken plates on patrol only.

THose pics look like Rangers, and they use a similar to 3 hole 1 hole nvg mount. Its usually only seen on Rangers and has a slightly more diamond look. Most other SF units seem to use the older style mount that has arms to grab the mich lip.

Was this photo taken at Fort Knox??

If I'm not mistaken that is fort Benning..the sign looks very familiar to me.

Hitman's first 3 pics are Ranger's using the 1 hole norotos and the last one is of contractor balling in us gear. There are similar pics that i have of these guys who all have the basic setup with 2002 Mich anvis mount and 416 rifle and ACU camo covers on helmet, so no he is not SOF.

Do NOT POST in here if it is irrelevant to the "theme" of this thread which is Special Forces NOT SEAL. This Sub forum is for impressionists who want hard dicks looking at SF stuff, so keep it SF.

I am gonna remove all irrelevant posts from here. If you wangs want to have a interweb debate join a debate club.

Some old pics of me and Judge
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture059.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture080.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture073.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture044.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture079.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture062.jpg
This was a couple years ago. I will post new pics of our new and much improved shit.

EDIT: Now some even older pics
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture024.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...S/DSC00854.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...Picture035.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...cture044-1.jpg

wow nice job guys!

Me bored at my house.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...100_0703-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...100_0704-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...100_0716-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...S/100_0719.jpg

Hey I have that copy of Without Remose too... That's a nice kit too.

That is my fav of the series.

hi guys
i've been referred over here to post my US SOF photos
hope i can get some feedbacks
im not doing a particular impression primarily, but a special operator by default
someone suggested CAG DA for me, so i wanna hear wt u guys think

im also using OD holster and OD padded belt and OD kneepads. should i change for black ones?


http://www.uncompany.com/images/swat-sp-m51-bk_big.jpg

MICH 2002
ANVIS NVG mount

M4 SOPMOD, MRE, or 416, accessorize accordingly
1911 or Glock 17/19

Either the RAV is too big for you or you haven't fitted it to your body shape yet.
Clean up your pouch attachment, they look like they're falling off.
Fill up those pouches.

Merrell or similar hikers instead of black boots.
CAG sometimes doesn't use kneepads at all.

Hey Roughneck, what is that wrench thingy on your back?

Raven your vest looks way too loose on you. I've tried to play wearing a vest like that before and it was very uncomfortable (like extra strain and felt heavier than proper fit)

*sigh*

Not even close to anything CAG, but I guess its a start.

No to current helmet or IBH
No to Holster and its WAY to low.
Most current pics of CAG has them wearing Crye clothing in 3Col, tan and Woodland... Sooo:
Big NO to knee pads
No to gloves... if your going to roll up your sleeves, roll down your gloves
Boots are a no-no, get Merrel Sawtooth like Groombug said.
Your RAV looks badly fitted, take time and sort it out. Plus looks like you have the standard pouches that come with the vest, ditch anything you don't fill up RIGHT NOW and maybe when you have a need for these pouches, then put them on. Bulk = Gay

Other then that... G36 is not good, if you want more current CAG get a HK416 or if you ever manage to find, an HK416 upper on a M4 MRE lower.

Like I said, its a start. If you want to make a good impression (even based load-out) it takes a good deal of time, money and effort to get it right, so keep it up.

thanks for the advices!!

i've attached the cumberbands around my torso inside already, but then i guess i havent slide it around properly to adjust

as for my g36k, it's actually defective. i dont have a working AEG right now, so i need 2 wait for my orders to arrive first
sucks eh

thanks for your advice!!

like groom said, i need to fill up those pouches. the reason i havent is cuz i await my shipment from uncompany to arrive after it's been turned back. also im short on cash so i have to wait a bit right now. this includes the 416 that im waiting to bring in
as for the pistol, im using USP right now cuz i cant find a mk23socom at this time
i've heard that SFOD also uses glock as u guys have said, but i think i'll stick with USP cuz im a hk fan

in my pouches so far i have a pair of binoculars, a shemagh, balaclava (turns out to be quite useful...like right now i dont need to pixel my face, or in the fields help for warmth during winter

For me it looks like a Breaching tool.

Nice loadout Roughneck!

I don't think so. It look like a fire hydran tool. It's hard to see, but the top part does not look like a typical breaking tool.

It is a home improvement tool called FatMax Xtreme FuBar Utility Bar and you can get it at home depot for 40 bucks.
http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber

With a RAV, an OD MICH 2000, a RAV and woodland BDUs and a USP .45 you could start a 10th SFG impression, though it wouldn't be current and it would need some more things.

Ditch the G36 series if you're after a US impression, great start though!

thanks!!

im waiting for my hk 416 and usp to arrive
once thats done i think i'll b getting somewhere

i thought about using a IBH too

No IBH, very few where made and are not used by 10th SFG (or for that matter any army SF units). Last shots of them being worn are from a few years ago with some Devgru (apparently) dudes T/Eing a bunch of shit.

Definitely some nice set ups here...

Something a bit more old school now

Pre-MSA Paraclete RAV in DCU. Modded by the operator, took off the outer cumberbund wich was too saggy when loaded and had a MOLLE panel fitted on the front velcro. Front and back are secured together with fastex buckle and straps that are routed through where the cumberbund would usualy be in the back.

All pouches are currently SDS (as I had these hanging around) but I'm looking to replace them with old Paraclete DCU ones.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0296.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0300.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0301.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...DSC_0304-1.jpg

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/DSC_0323.jpg
Updated my pouches layout, feels better for reloads

A few pics.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...ERS/stair2.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...GERS/raid2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i.../100_1065a.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/i...e/100_1060.jpg

Sweet pics men! good job...

hey guys i have a question
im originally going for complete woodland, which was why i picked an OD RAV vest
however of course most of the photos we saw showed operators wearing tan on top of woodland
i want to ask, why? and is it effective in a woodland/jungle environment in terms of camoflague?

and im trying to go for something liek this :

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/2793/11214id9.jpg

Coyote Brown works well in both Woodland and Arid/Desert.


Plus a lot of the pics you see of SOF guys in woodland are guys training to deploy to Iraq/Afghanistan an would be using the kit they are going to deploy with.

Also, buying all your gear in Coyote Brown would be cheaper than having to buy OD/Camo for woodland an buying another set of everything in Tan/Coyote Brown for Arid. USMC went that way an buys all their armour an LBE in Coyote Brown minus their rucksack an 3day/assualt pack.

Coyote brown or khaki (once you properly break it in by rolling in dirt) are multipurpose camo, sort of a one colour fits all.

Well put.