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420Jesus February 14th, 2007 15:16

purchasing bb's
 
Hello there, quick question that i didnt know which thread to stick in, when in doubt, faq's. anyways, i have just recieved a m15a4 carbine and have to purchase some bb's, the walmart and can tire closest to my house dont sell .2 gram bb's only the .12 gram ones. do i have to ship these to me or is there any way to get them without having to wait a week for the mail ?

HaZarD SFD February 14th, 2007 15:21

Ok well if you look at the top of this page there is a long blue bar.
If you look in the middle it says "Canadian Retailers" Move your mouse over
that. If you still havent found the bar press Alt-F4 and Enter Really fast.

Now in that menu there is BB Bastard and Metal Tech. Go to those sites
and contact them for costs and shipping if you cant find those and enjoy
some bbs when they arrive.

As a reward for getting bbs by yourself.. Load your gun and aim at your leg
and pull the trigger once. You will feel the pain of victory!

Droc February 14th, 2007 15:28

Many fields will sell bags also. Its cheaper to buy in bulk. If you fell, buy a case and sell off to your friends at games. Its alot up front, but you can make a few dollars in the end.
As a suggestion, I always recommend 0.25g or heavier.
IMHO, 0.20g is as useless as rehab and Lindsay Lohan.

Styrak February 14th, 2007 16:12

And yeah, don't buy those Canadian Tire, or Walmart ones. They have seams and probably have inconsistent dimension. I'm not gonna trust those in my GBB. However, I have a cheap springer, and I'll use that .12g crap all I want in there. Not gonna waste my premium .20g ones.

flack February 14th, 2007 17:14

www.bbbastard.com

BBS February 14th, 2007 21:18

i sell them too! :D :D

Droc February 15th, 2007 09:17

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Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 424130)
And yeah, don't buy those Canadian Tire, or Walmart ones. They have seams and probably have inconsistent dimension. I'm not gonna trust those in my GBB. However, I have a cheap springer, and I'll use that .12g crap all I want in there. Not gonna waste my premium .20g ones.

it should be noted, that for the most part, GBBs are designed to use at least 0.25g and have a noticeable performance improvement with heavier ammo.

Styrak February 15th, 2007 10:19

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Originally Posted by Droc (Post 424423)
it should be noted, that for the most part, GBBs are designed to use at least 0.25g and have a noticeable performance improvement with heavier ammo.

Didn't know that. Wouldn't they have decreased range though? Everywhere I read mostly recommends .20g. (I think).

The Saint February 15th, 2007 10:24

The decrease in absolute range from using 0.25g in GBBs will be trivial compared to the increase in effective range.

Droc February 15th, 2007 11:03

decreased range isnt the same as with an AEG. An AEG, your using a measured amount of air in a cylinder...GBB, you have an unpredictable amount of expanding gas that responds differently to the amount of weight it has to push.

Using heavier ammo in AEGs helps, but try using heavy ammo in a GBB and you'll find it to be an incredible improvement in effective range and accuracy.

Styrak February 15th, 2007 12:59

When I run out of my new bad of .20g (3000rd, which will probably no be for a long time), I'll try heavier ones. :P

jaa August 17th, 2007 18:06

What's the difference in preformance between "premium" BBs and "other" BBs of the same weight and cost? I don't see seams in either one.

Ronan August 17th, 2007 18:12

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Originally Posted by jaa (Post 521311)
What's the difference in preformance between "premium" BBs and "other" BBs of the same weight and cost? I don't see seams in either one.

Don't necro please.

Some crappy bb's have seams, air bubbles, or the material isn't as high grade as others (ie, they will crack/explode in peices when they hit something or even in your gun!).

Never, never, never cheap out on bb's. Last thing you want to do is take your gun appart because a bb exploded in the hop up.

BB Bastard, Maxi BB's, Metal Tech and TM are the one's i recommend. I personaly use 0.30g Maxi BB's (expensive but worth it when you do long range shooting).

For a AEG stick with 0.25g imo.

Renegade) August 17th, 2007 18:18

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 521317)
Don't necro please.

Some crappy bb's have seams, air bubbles, or the material isn't as high grade as others (ie, they will crack/explode in peices when they hit something or even in your gun!).

Never, never, never cheap out on bb's. Last thing you want to do is take your gun appart because a bb exploded in the hop up.

BB Bastard, Maxi BB's, Metal Tech and TM are the one's i recommend. I personaly use 0.30g Maxi BB's (expensive but worth it when you do long range shooting).

For a AEG stick with 0.25g imo.


Ronan, dont moderate please, its better that he revives an old thread somewhat on topic than making a whole new one. February isnt something to worry about. KSC perfects as well are good bb's, for regular AEG's in the open or through brush, .25 are what you want. The good quality bb's are polished so they dont have obvious seems that might catch your barrel or what not.. Not that pricey either, and well worth it.

White_knight August 17th, 2007 19:41

bb bastards are great, but all bb's have some flaws. when i fired a .20 bb bastard bb, the whole thing exploded in my USP. i had to field strip the gun to get it all out. parts in the barrel, under the recoil spring even in the trigger mech (yeah i don't know how either). however if you stick with quality the chances of this happing are FAR less then with low quality. just don't go "OMGZ a TM bb FAILED!!1!one!!" if it ever happens to you. and IMHO i think that all the "competition grade/premium/professional/uber l33t awesome" titles they give these are gimmicks anyway. hell my palco shitty tippmann XT800 carpsoft aeg was "professional grade" ...yeah right.

Ronan August 17th, 2007 21:09

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Originally Posted by Renegade) (Post 521326)
Ronan, dont moderate please, its better that he revives an old thread somewhat on topic than making a whole new one. February isnt something to worry about. KSC perfects as well are good bb's, for regular AEG's in the open or through brush, .25 are what you want. The good quality bb's are polished so they dont have obvious seems that might catch your barrel or what not.. Not that pricey either, and well worth it.

I'm not moderating I'm giving him advice. I was flamed for necroing a 1 week old thread that had the same subject as my question.

Qualities BB's are more expensive than cheap BB's, some more than other (and in Maxi's case, well worth it imo). But like stated before, you pay for what you get. Never cheap out on BB's.

White Knight makes a very good point. Just because it say's 'competition grade' on the box it doesn't mean they are high grade BB's. No one controls those, so manufacturers put what ever they want. My cousin bough 0.25g "Grade A Professionals BB's", and they were crap. Not super crappy, but they exploded on contact (and his TM P90 isn't that powerful).

I have shot a good number of 0.30g Maxi BB's, and so far, zero negative feedback. Which i'm thinking is why they cost $28 for 800 lol. On the other hand, i had a couple TM's that weren't that great. Different quality control i guess.

Renegade) August 17th, 2007 21:24

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 521406)
I'm not moderating I'm giving him advice. I was flamed for necroing a 1 week old thread that had the same subject as my question.


No disrespect meant, but telling someone not to necro when they are asking a question, is wannabe moderator. As for that statement, got a link to the thread for that? I find that hard to beleive someone falming you, unless it was a troll, for a one week dead thread.

Ronan August 17th, 2007 22:03

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Originally Posted by Renegade) (Post 521411)
No disrespect meant, but telling someone not to necro when they are asking a question, is wannabe moderator. As for that statement, got a link to the thread for that? I find that hard to beleive someone falming you, unless it was a troll, for a one week dead thread.

Then drop it?
I don't post PM's since it kinda breaks the whole 'personal message' thing. Yeah maybe he just wanted to troll but it doesn't change it. Also feel free to look up past necro's, you'll be amaze at the flame fest.

Oh and as you saw, 'Don't necro please' is hardly moderating (like i told you). So don't try to piss me off it's not the day/night to do it. I gave him the info he wanted, so did you and other people.

So.... yeah :)

Renegade) August 17th, 2007 22:22

that answers it, I sure dont remember seeing that flame job done, since it was a PM, dont worry about it.

Skladfin August 18th, 2007 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 521317)
Don't necro please.

Some crappy bb's have seams, air bubbles, or the material isn't as high grade as others (ie, they will crack/explode in peices when they hit something or even in your gun!).

Never, never, never cheap out on bb's. Last thing you want to do is take your gun appart because a bb exploded in the hop up.

BB Bastard, Maxi BB's, Metal Tech and TM are the one's i recommend. I personaly use 0.30g Maxi BB's (expensive but worth it when you do long range shooting).

For a AEG stick with 0.25g imo.

Explode inside the gun....?

Is that actually possible? It's not like anything hits the BB or that it's going to hit something hard inside the gun... All the BB that's going to touch in the process of going out of the barrel is just the hopup rubber...or so I think.

Anyways, I do agree with the BB brands, they are the best ones. 0.25 or 0.28 works the best in AEGs. You can also go with 0.30g if you have $$ to burn.

Also, buy some 0.20gs as well. So that you can measure FPS accordingly.

White_knight August 18th, 2007 17:04

i dont know how they explode in the gun either but min did. i should have taken pictures of it, shards everywhere.

Ronan August 19th, 2007 23:05

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Originally Posted by White_knight (Post 521774)
i dont know how they explode in the gun either but min did. i should have taken pictures of it, shards everywhere.

Exactly what happen to my cousin's TM P90. Crappy BB blew apart in the gun, he had shards IN the mechbox (beleives they enter through the muzzle), in the gun, in the bucking (stuck in/on it) and in the barrel.

Skladfin August 20th, 2007 12:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 522454)
Exactly what happen to my cousin's TM P90. Crappy BB blew apart in the gun, he had shards IN the mechbox (beleives they enter through the muzzle), in the gun, in the bucking (stuck in/on it) and in the barrel.

huh? Muzzle? You mean the BB went into the Muzzle?

Do you mean the Nozzle?

Ronan August 20th, 2007 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 522654)
huh? Muzzle? You mean the BB went into the Muzzle?

Do you mean the Nozzle?

In the inner barrel.


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