Classic Army AUG A1 or SAR Taktik II (G3 SG-1)
 

Which gun should I get. The AUG A1 or the G3? I like the AUG since it has the scope with 1.5x zoom. However, I like the look of the G3 more since its all black rather then the green.It also has a larger clip and a large battery instead of the small one with lower MaH on the AUG.

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SAR Taktik Rifle II (G3 SG-1)

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AUG A1

Opinions Please.

Personally I'd get the G3. It's more evenly "beefed" up. It really boils down to what will you be using it for? If you want a well rounded weapon, go with the Aug, but if you want pure sexiness, go G3.

I have never used the aug but I hated the G3 to creaky so I sold and went for the TM knights with the systema c8 metal body. But if you want distance and want to spend the cash for upgrades then go G3. My biggest dislike is the TM claw mount for the G3 (kept falling off)

Aug All the way. Far more versititle weapon platform to go from. G3's have there uses, but as a main AEG, the aug is a better choice. I how ever would personaly wait for CA to put out there SR version of the AUG (assuming they are ever going to make one, I havn't kept up) so that you can mount any optics you wanted.

tough call, i like em both, and both are pretty equal specs.... i love bull pups, but but i would lean towards the g3.

Argh... my first AEG was a TM G3... second one was the TM AUG... i hate you.

i own a TM G3 right no in the steps in selling her t buy a CA.

the TM it was creaky and what not but when your in combat your barely notice it (atleast for me) the bi-pod is good not the best but its stock and i didn't care that much. the AUG is a nice gun i'll give it that but i found the trigger weird to operate (i must need a switch) the AUG as a 2 stage trigger i guess theres a difference in the auto and semi-auto but if your in indoor play and its semi-auto only it can get a bit weird to use cause well with no switch you can pull to much and give a full-auto bearst and well some people may not like that. now i only used if for like an hour so i didn't get uset to the TM but i also found very rear heavy but this is my opioin i would have to say go for the G3.

You can mod the "switch" on the AUG to fire semi-auto only. Took me about 30 minutes to do mine. You just cut out a bit of plastic on the bar so it locks in the middle position letting the trigger go far enough for semi, but not far enough for auto.

CA scopes ain't that great, even good 1.5x scopes ain't all that much zoom. Plus I find AUGs too butt-heavy for my liking. I'd get the G3.

If I had to choose, the Aug for sure. Its a less common gun. More managable then the G3, mags are not as common, but thats no big deal.
the most important reason for me, V3 internals

if you like black guns go aug civi and put own choice of optics. good all rounder and field stips eazy. go aug !

I'd go with the SAR. I've got it's little brother the Offizier M41FS and it's been absolutely amazing. I can only imagine what the full size will be like for range and accuracy.

I don't know how people are claiming the AUG is more versatile a gun. It has one rail system for it that's expensive and only works with the A2 receiver, you can't put on different stocks or furniture, if you get the A1 you have NO optics choices, etc. The SAR is FAR more versatile than the AUG will ever be.

AUG hands down .
Its a bullpup style so great for Urban Warfare. But it has a long barrel and is very accurate so it is alo great for Field use.
If they weren't so bulky at the back they would be the ultimate weapon.
And the G3s are like the MP5s , dime a dozen .... boring and not many options

I'd go with the AUG also. It has a great look.....get a grenade launcher on that bastard!!

meh, who needs rails anyways. The aug is far more managable. Considering its size, it still packs a 510mm inner barrel.

You might want to do some research before bashing the AUG. There are at least three different rail systems for it, two of wich WILL fit the military reciever. You also have a full length barrel (wich is actually about an inch longer than a full size G3) in a short carbine sized weapon because of the bulpup design. Another bonus with the AUG is how quickly you can swap barrels. You can have an upgraded gun, say 400fps with a long sniper barrel and change to a C.Q.B. 14" with a velocity reducer in about 10 seconds. You can basically have two guns in one. They are nicely ballanced (not front heavy like all conventional rifles) and can easily be shouldered and fired with one hand if need be. You can't get much more versatile than that!
OH and also the version 3 gearbox is a bonus. Personally I'm getting tired of people bad mouthing the AUG and other bulpup designs because they just don't like the way they look.

Just my 2 cents.

I voted G3, a set of real steel wood furniture would look smashing on it.

I'd say it's a tough decision. I have an AUG A1 and it's really nice. Really, really nice. It's had a few minor electrical glitches with the semi-auto, but that was easily fixed with no AEG servicing experience.
There's not much you can do to an AUG if you like putting stuff on your guns, and the optics are not so versatile, since they're fixed on. However, the optics on the A1 are really nice. They're far, far nicer than I ever expected that they'd be, though the rifle sites on top are a bit crappy (they're just for backup so this is no big deal though). Plus, if you want to change the optics, you can always get an A2 reciever (not the TM, since it's not compatible).
The Tartik on the other hand looks really nice, and is newer. The SAR 41 is an incredibly nice looking rifle, I'd expect no worse of the larger version.
I'd reccomend getting the CA AUG A2 and putting a 1.5X scope or RDS on it, that way you're not screwed if your scope gets shot out or broken and you can change it up if you want.

I stand corrected on the rails, however I stand by my comment that the AUG isn't as versatile as the G3 series. Also please don't put words into my mouth, I never said I disliked the AUG for it's looks. Different strokes for different folks.

Versitile
capable of or adapted for turning easily from one to another of various tasks, fields of endeavor

Considering the Aug is fantastically compact, yet remains an exceptional field gun, Id say it wins.

G3 is great, but its big and long, 1036mm vs the Aug's 805mm. Its only 20cm, but considering the Aug is a bullpup, the profile is much smaller and better suited for urban and CQB. Its not like taking the SG1 indoors is pratical, but the Aug, sure, its almost as good in CQB as a SMG style gun like the MP5.

Ok, so the Aug is better for CQB because its smaller and easier to handel...And we all know of the benifits of the bullpup design.

But the G3 is a better field gun because its bigger right? Nada. The SG1 has an inner barrel of 469mm...but the Aug has an inner barrel of 550mm.

So the Aug suites better as a range gun and a CQB gun...

I dig the G3, its a meaty gun, but versitile? not really.

You cant beat 500 rd hicaps :D With those things G3 is pretty much a support gun :D

Sorry about that. I didn't mean to point the finger at you, I am just constantly hearing people say how much they hate the way it looks. I personally hated them years ago (based on the looks alone) but after getting a chance to fire a real one in the early 90s', I fell in love. Even though I'm left handed and was forced to fire it from the right shoulder, I didn't have any problems and got a feel for how well ballanced this rifle actually is. I actually found it easier (and quicker) to shoulder and fire from my weak side than conventional AR designs. Although I've never fired a G3 series rifle I do like the way they look & feel and I don't have anything against them. I agree that we all like different guns for different reasons, but I just don't understand how you can say the G3 is more versatile. :confused:

OH YEA? WGC Shop has a Jet Customs 1000 rnd. drum mag for the AUG. I can smell my battery cooking already!

Good luck running around with that thing under your armpit.

It's not as cumbersome as you might think. It's roughly the same size as an AK drum- not a thompson.

I have one (making an HBAR-T). If you have the drum under your armpit, then you're holding the AUG wrong :p. The drum is at your forearm, about two thirds down towards your wrist. It's actually not bad at all with very little chicken winging.

Plus, as a bullpup, the balance is great to hold it one handed which means you can fire and move while holding down the electronic winding button on the mag.

i loved my Aug, soo much so that i sold it to a friend so i could still use it.

Stirdy and shoots hella fast with a 9.6.

definitly the G3 Aug's are ugly as sin(but not quite as bad as p90's)

SAR Taktik Rifle II (G3 SG-1) looks much better, but its your choice.

I've been debating these too guns for a while, and when i learned the Aug has a longer barrel that really started to tip the scales. However i was talking to a friend and he suggested dthat the G3 would have more of a "power capacity" for upgrading, because he thought it had a bigger gear box. Is this true? that the G3 could handle more upgrades, or no. Also how long does it take to change a battery in the Aug? I have some 9.6v 1400 mah ish batteries, do you think they'd fit? Thanks for the help and please dont "slaughter" me as i'm quite new to airsoft, thanks.

Your information source is... unclear. Read the Information section. 9.6 volt batteries have one more cell and may not fit in the gun at all. The guns are designed for 8.4 volts, take that into consideration.

Mechbox internals are pretty much the same overall. The AUG and G3 are just different designs and have their own mechbox setup. I'm not fond of the AUG, but that is because I just dislike the design. Both guns work very well.

Please do not ask, like so many others, for us to make up your mind for you.
Do your research, go to games, even rent guns to try before buying. Then your decision will be based on facts instead of hearsay.

mainly i was wondering if anyone had tried using a 9.6 and it works standard already, for instance i didnt have to do any modding for it to work in my mp5. Nor was i asking people to make up my mind, but rather asking people who own one about some of the specifics. No where did i ask "which is better".

Also, whats a common form of flashlight mount for Aug's?

Thanks for the info on mechboxes, i thought someting was off in his "theory" and thus why i asked.

If you dont want folks to assume you need help choosing, you can start your own thread and ask your own specific questions?

Again, read what I said. The guns are designed for 8.4 volts... not 7.2, not 9.6, ok? Since the 9,6 is also physically larger, it may not fit in the frame at all. Both guns are also totally different in the way they are built.

Pick one, use the Search option, and read what you find or follow my previous advice; go see them in person to learn more.

Greylocks is right that the internals are pretty much the same but ver.2 gearboxes blow apart because of a fatal flaw when upgraded too far, ver.3 mechboxes are much stronger and can take stronger spring upgrades just fine. You can get a reinforced mechbox for a ver.2 to get some more out of it (from what I've heard from many players, a reinforced ver.2 still isn't as strong as a stock ver.3) but because its a CA gun the tolerances are slightly different and aftermarket gearboxes wont fit the CA body well as far as I know without a lot of modification so your kinda screwed. If you're going with a ver.2 gearbox design and want to upgrade then your better off getting it from a different brand thats more universally compatible (TM is the only other maker of the G3 SG-1 I believe.)

I'd say AUG but I have a bias of loving bullpups, especially the P90. I don't like the skeletal look of the AUG's front end but that can be fixed with the RIS setup (AUG A3 is it?)

I would reccomend the G3 SG1 because it is my first gun. It has uncommon and expensive accesores but the nice thing is the clip for G3. Just my opinion never tried an AUG though

sorry if im not understanding but from reading this thread it appears the Aug's have the v. 3 gear box while the G3's have the v. 2 assuming were talking CA. is that correct?

again i was asking someone who had one if it was possible for it to fit, my mp5 was designed for 8.4 but fits a 9.6. anyways no sense in beating it to the ground.

Thanks for the responses everyone

There are two primary type of batteries; mini, and Large.

If your MP5 uses the mini stick, it can be made to fit but that does not change the fact that by using a higher voltage you are adding stress to the gun. That is never a good idea. Also, depending on which gun, the larger battery pack may simply not fit inside the gun at all.

Since we dont know exactly what you have, what batteries you are using, there is no clear answer for you. Do you use mini, stick, or Large type batteries?

That is why I suggested you go see people in person. All of this can be resolved in less than 5 minutes of talking to anyone face to face. Add another few minutes and you'll probably get a full set of instructions.

Yes, AUG=V3, G3=V2.

A 9.6V 1500mAh 'Square' AUG battery (2x2x2 cells, also fits M249s) fits into my TM AUG with no modifications, although it is a VERY tight fit. I'm assuming that the battery compartment of the TM and CA are near identical, seeing as how the other parts fit cross-brand.

The nice thing about the AUG over the G3 is that the mags are pretty much the same as armalite mags, so they fit in the same pouches. You'd have to get 7.62 pouches for the G3 (although they aren't exactly that hard to find, like P90 pouches or something).

About the AUG being more versatile, I really don't like the AUG stock for CQB. It's big and bulky and weird to maneuver, but a shorty barrel makes up for that very nicely.

About RIS mounts and such for the AUG, it's pretty severely lacking (especially when compared to the G3). The only easily available ones are universal barrel mounts. Other than that, some bi-level mounts fit the AUGA2, but instead of going on the carry handle and extending down the hand guard (on an armalite), it goes on the ... carry handle/rail mount and extends down the barrel. That works well if you want optics+PEQ. It's pretty impossible to find. My favorite mount, which is also impossible to find, is the Nitro side rail. That one is great for just a flashlight or something: http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...B-SSR_srch_AUG

awesome thanks all your help guys. I use mini batteries currently. 8.4v 600's and i believe there 9.6 1100's or something near there for my others, tight fit, but it fits. Unfortionatly i don't know a person who has either, however i got a chance to hold both at the recent Minnesota Airsoft Convention, and liked them both. Too bad i never asked for specifics.

Thanks again

The Sg1 full metal (I assume, since it's CA), is a beast of a gun. I played with one for a while and decided that it's definatly not the gun for me. My FMU M16 shot more accurately and a lot lighter. I hate both those guns, but if I had to pick a fat chick to go to the prom, I'd take the AUG.