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Arc April 19th, 2006 12:46

Do you prefer highcaps or low caps.
 
was wondering what does everyone around play with when it comes to mags. Do you:
  • high cap. mags
  • low cap. mags

Do you choose realism, over sprey and prey or what? Well close as you can parallel the real thing.

attack-beaver April 19th, 2006 13:05

well right now all i have a is 1 hi-cap (500 rounds) and 1 low cap (70 rounds) now that i have been playing for about a year i notice why people like low caps.

i do prefer using by low-cap even if i have one buy once i get some money and an LBV i'll be more low-caps why cause they're quit and more realistic.

Grim Fandango April 19th, 2006 13:05

low caps for me. hicaps rattle to much for me, don't like winding them and they do take away from the realism.

GraveTech April 19th, 2006 13:11

MMmmmm midcaps...

firemachine69 April 19th, 2006 13:13

Mids here. Loaded up to 33, of course. ;)

The Saint April 19th, 2006 13:14

Biggest mag I can afford, since I'm going for a support gunner setup and need it to qualify for the position. I'm actually going to pad the inside of the box mag to reduce its capacity and rattling, no body needs thousands of rounds in a mag. :smack:

lt_poncho April 19th, 2006 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by attack-beacer
well right now all i have a is 1 hi-cap (500 rounds) and 1 low cap (70 rounds) now that i have been playing for about a year i notice why people like low caps.

i do prefer using by low-cap even if i have one buy once i get some money and an LBV i'll be more low-caps why cause they're quit and more realistic.

Incidentially - WHEN specifically did you notice this (why people like low caps)?

Gryphon April 19th, 2006 13:23

/points to userbar

Xepharo April 19th, 2006 13:44

low caps, 33 rnds fill here too!! Just love the realism of it.
I got the STAR 30 rounds one, pretty nice. I gotta paint it flat black and put HK markings on it :-D

High cap is... winding... I don't like that very much.

Gryphon April 19th, 2006 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo
low caps, 33 rnds fill here too!! Just love the realism of it.
I got the STAR 30 rounds one, pretty nice. I gotta paint it flat black and put HK markings on it :-D

What for? They've already done that for you. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-L85-M16-Air...QQcmdZViewItem

Raw Deal April 19th, 2006 13:58

Lo's all the way.With the price of star mags there are no excuses, and hey they make you a better player!

Bandit April 19th, 2006 14:11

Low caps! I need something to fill out my vest. Though if I were to use my hi cap I could probably just fill my mag pouches with spare socks and beer.

Hmmm....

Rico April 19th, 2006 14:12

Midcaps. And only because TM lowcaps feed like crap in my MP5 ;)

oueleric1 April 19th, 2006 14:13

Right now I have a hicap, i'd like to get all locaps by the end of summer.

skaterjoe April 19th, 2006 14:21

i bought 2 extra locaps when i got my gun, and then a high cap, then a couple more locaps. i never did use the high cap except for once, so i traded it to my brother when he got an M4 for his locap. :)
now i have 7 locaps, so im thinking of loading them to just 34rnds.
they add more realism (which is why you spend $1000 on a gun in the first place) plus, how are you supposed to ware a vest if you only have 1 mag?

^Hyperion^ April 19th, 2006 14:23

Locaps because of the realism and no having to wind :rrr:

CDN_Stalker April 19th, 2006 14:32

Under-loaded midcaps and underloaded locaps for me. Hicaps for the MP5 are pretty limited anyways, can't call those users a hose really, most I've found that one can shoot on a full burst is about 42 BBs. Yes, noisy and winding is a bit of an annoyance, but the biggest problem I have is the feeding burps on occasion and how one little grain of sand can bugger a hicap up (Rawdon, grrrr!!!)

The Saint April 19th, 2006 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaterjoe
plus, how are you supposed to ware a vest if you only have 1 mag?

Very awkwardly. :rolleyes:

Primus April 19th, 2006 14:36

locap loaded with 33 bb's all the way, makes you strategize more instead of just being a hose.

Xepharo April 19th, 2006 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gryphon
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xepharo
low caps, 33 rnds fill here too!! Just love the realism of it.
I got the STAR 30 rounds one, pretty nice. I gotta paint it flat black and put HK markings on it :-D

What for? They've already done that for you. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-L85-M16-Air...QQcmdZViewItem

Oh, I meant some of my Marui and CA ones. I got a mix of Marui, CA, and STAR mags hahaha

shiftline April 19th, 2006 14:47

Mostly Lows .. i keep 1 hi usaly for backup (its not to noisy if shes full to the max lol)

Snow_Raven April 19th, 2006 14:48

I only have 2 lo-caps right now both TM Ak ones, but have a order from WGC coming in hopefully within the week with a box of Star mags.

So I prefer Low caps.

beastman April 19th, 2006 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bandit
Low caps! I need something to fill out my vest. Though if I were to use my hi cap I could probably just fill my mag pouches with spare socks and beer.

Hmmm....

Beer is a necessity for airsoft. Cut a six pack in half and hang it off your vest like grenades. :cheers:

Low caps.

Black_Orchid April 19th, 2006 14:58

Highcaps are fun to use every now and then, but I find a lot of people who use them tend to just stand in the open and spray because they think they're invincible...and/or Rambo. I prefer locaps because it teaches you to think before you shoot...instead of hosing everything that moves.

RecceGod April 19th, 2006 15:05

Star mags Uber-low-cap, or as some like to call them, Sim-caps... hurts a whole lot less when you loose one too.

lt_poncho April 19th, 2006 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Orchid
Highcaps are fun to use every now and then, but I find a lot of people who use them tend to just stand in the open and spray because they think they're invincible...and/or Rambo. I prefer locaps because it teaches you to think before you shoot...instead of hosing everything that moves.

Woah woah - John Rambo is invincible - he crashed a HIND in the desert and walked away from it. I saw it on TV - so it's got to be real! ;)

Shugart April 19th, 2006 15:28

If its a skirmish, or a quick game and I don't feel like sitting there and loading all my lows, then I go with a hicap or two.

But if its a more serious game, and the realism aspect is a big part, then its lo's all the way.

FOX_111 April 19th, 2006 15:40

Lowcaps for me only. I have 5 P90 lowcaps.

Hicaps are for paintballers haha

Black_Orchid April 19th, 2006 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by lt_poncho
Woah woah - John Rambo is invincible - he crashed a HIND in the desert and walked away from it. I saw it on TV - so it's got to be real! ;)

My bad, my bad! Apologies to the great Rambo if I implied he's not invincible. Oh the shame!

yanhchan April 19th, 2006 15:53

Star Low Caps, get them while they're tasty...!

DeathSniper April 19th, 2006 16:29

Lowcaps baby. :D

LUTNIT April 19th, 2006 16:43

Waiting for order of 20 STAR G3 mags to come in...

Using MAG midcaps in my M733, though trying to limit myself to 300 round loadouts so they will only have 40 rounds in each (damn 8 packs, if only there where two more...)

Rumpel Felt April 19th, 2006 16:46

Low or midcaps all the way.

Hicaps ruin what realism is to be had with AEG's. With a hicaps YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A PAINTBALLER, what with the rattling and 200 rounds + capacity. Hicaps should be banned.....just yeah, straight up banned!

B.A.M April 19th, 2006 16:54

TM lows. I like metal... makes me feel like big man.. Rahhhh

Greylocks April 19th, 2006 16:55

You were bored, right? People prefer both, or midcaps, or whatever tickles their fancy, that they can afford, or works for them.

This is like asking what is your favorite gun; you get a list of every gun out there.

major kartel April 19th, 2006 16:56

LOW CAP ALL THE WAY!

some say its a pain in the ass to reload, but i say it makes it SO much better ! the tactics on holding ur fire and not spraying the whole field whit no one in sigth !

and finally i mean it makes it look so cool the movemant of changing caps and the sound of it :D I LOVE IT !

-Skeletor- April 19th, 2006 17:04

Lowcaps


I got 13 of those Star ones

Arc April 19th, 2006 17:18

I see what is dominant thanks for the input guys.

Damascus April 19th, 2006 17:24

While the only thing I own is two high caps (bough an ICS and buy a HC thinking the mag coming with the gun was a low), I prefer lo-caps. I like the feel of changing mag!

yanhchan April 19th, 2006 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks
You were bored, right? People prefer both, or midcaps, or whatever tickles their fancy, that they can afford, or works for them.

This is like asking what is your favorite gun; you get a list of every gun out there.

The little boy says: "This is my P226 Sig Saucer"

Mantelope April 19th, 2006 17:40

Lows, but since I'm buying a CA249 I'm going to have to work something out because I don't particularly want to be changing mags every 60 rounds. I wish there was a boxmag that fed reliably with 4-500 rounds without having to wind.

Shugart April 19th, 2006 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt
Low or midcaps all the way.

Hicaps ruin what realism is to be had with AEG's. With a hicaps YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN A PAINTBALLER, what with the rattling and 200 rounds + capacity. Hicaps should be banned.....just yeah, straight up banned!


Im' sorry, but if I'm on a budget, I don't wanna dish out tonnes of cash for Locaps.

And yes, Star is pumping out more and more for different guns, but not every gun is covered.

And as I said before, if its a skirmish for shits and giggles, I really don't give a rats ass about super realism. Airsoft is a hobby, meant to entertain, and enjoy, I don't necesserily like always having to sacrifice my enjoyment for the sake of absolute realism.

Gryphon April 19th, 2006 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shugart
Im' sorry, but if I'm on a budget, I don't wanna dish out tonnes of cash for Locaps.

And yes, Star is pumping out more and more for different guns, but not every gun is covered.

Bingo. Even us ubar-milsimmers in Manitoba still make exceptions for beginners with hicaps. You're expected to go buy low and realcaps when your budget allows, but rarely does anyone sit out if one hicap is all they have. If anything, other players will loan you lowcaps if you need some. I've got seventeen Star mags myself, others here have double, triple, or sometimes MORE than that. No, I ain't kidding.

That said I also own six hicaps. Three came with my guns, two I got for free cause they didn't work (easy fixes), and one I got in a trade for other stuff. I do use them in non-serious games, or in my CA249 because I don't have a box mag yet (ordered one today! :grin: ).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shugart
And as I said before, if its a skirmish for shits and giggles, I really don't give a rats ass about super realism. Airsoft is a hobby, meant to entertain, and enjoy, I don't necesserily like always having to sacrifice my enjoyment for the sake of absolute realism.

QFT. :tup:

Raysaaark April 20th, 2006 13:00

I Use Lowcaps now that I have them, so much better. But I always make sure that I have my Hicap on me and fully loaded, Just incase a game starts right up after the last one and I dont have time to reload my lowcaps :mad: .
I wouldn't mind picking up a few Midcaps though, just to round out my vest. But for Sidearms, Hicaps. Gangster Mags are the shit.

AMetalSplinter April 20th, 2006 15:20

I like HiCaps, they hold more ammo. Common sense really. Some of the new ones break easily though...

SockMonkey April 20th, 2006 15:42

Highcaps= the ghey. for the price or a highcap you can almost get a box of stars. I played my first year with stars... really learn to choose your shots. Now i have a loadout of TM's for my M4 and only 8 for my Aug. My 249 I rock the boxmag, but hey whats a support gunner going to give cover with star? I own a highcap or two for each gun for rentals but thats about it. If you go by the "i got more ammo than you so I win" I think you should go back to paintball your not going to fit well with most of us. I do believe in leniency for new guys but like i said box of stars 80-100, highcap (never bought one) 75+?

quikstrike April 20th, 2006 16:09

As the signature says. Low.

Dozer_01 April 20th, 2006 16:21

Depends where i play. I use lowcaps when i'm at the teams field. Paintball field require highcaps to keep up with the hoses running around. Ok fine...maybe not required, but handy as fuck.

204HOE April 20th, 2006 16:38

I have 20 TM locaps right now.

Droc April 20th, 2006 17:57

Im going to quote myself from a thread awhile back

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
Quote:

Originally Posted by W.K.Shuridys
Last time I checked, realism was the hallmark of airsoft.

No, looking real is the hallmark of airsoft. Far as Im concerned, there is nothing real about having 3000 rounds vs 300 rounds when your shots dont make it past 100 feet.
Real to look at, sure
real to play with no

Person 1: "dude, check out my urber realistic AEG. its 1:1 scale and full metal with USMC markings."

Person 2: "Sweet, shoot it"

Persons 1 & 2: "Oh, thats a shame, the BB wizzes out 170 feet like a drunken bird, sent off course by the slightest breath of air and stoped dead by a leaf."

Person 1: "atleast it looks real"


lowcap mags may be enhance realism in CQB enviorments, but in the bush, the dynamics of shooting a light weight BB at low velocity simply suck.
Looking like a real solider may be nice and all, but when you step out into a field and see your enemy 250 feet away, and neither of you can engage eachother...there is nothing real about it. In that case, even lazer games are more real since their trajectories are flat and their ranges can be far.
Shitty when you can toss a baseball further then your gun can shoot.


You get hardcore realism players who are dead set on real loadouts because it adds to the realism, yet they are so quick to dismiss the fact that the performance of their guns is no more real then the kids running around their backyards with paintball/softair ,elastic bands, or supersoakers. Sometimes a better balance in the attitudes needs to be reached. If your gonna toss away one aspect of realism, you gotta relax on the other.

understandably its a saftey issue.
saying that, I use star mags in my AR :) Thought I stick to my claim that 1bb does not = 1 bullet, thus 30 round lowcaps are infact not realistic.
But whatever floats your boat. Its all about having fun in your own way.
(W.K.Shuridys, not directed to you, just a place to put my rant)

either way, I got totally offtopic

If you want to simulate the loadout, then lowcaps are for you.
But lowcaps DO NOT make someone a better player, just a different player.

"OMFG he beat me because he had more ammo them me" is just a piss poor excuse. If you cant beat someone simply because they can lay down more firepower then you can, you really need to brush up on your skills.

enemy at 180 feet. Medium wind from the side.
Real steel, Bang, enemy eliminated
hicap, unload lots, enemy eliminated
lowcap...oh, while you were being a batter player, you got shot.

realism doesnt mean you spot your enemy, cant engage and have to go CQB on his ass. Realism would be able to engage your enemy regardless of wind or leaves.

Not every hicap user is a sprayer. I know guys who use hicaps and you wouldnt know. Just cause someone has a hicap doesnt cut their IQ in half.
If you think a hicap instantly turns someone into a paintballer, pull out your lowcap and put in a hicap. Did you get stupid? did you forget your tatics? No, its bullshat. You can play your way with or without lowcaps.

Real loadout
vs
Real combat

its preferance. All this "skill" sounds like bad excuses. If you want to force yourself to play a specific way, thats fine. in the end its all personal preferance.

but it cuts a line between players. hicap users are newbs and lowcap users are elite. Over what? the excuse that one side plays like paintballers? weak.

CDN_Stalker April 20th, 2006 18:13

Well, umm, self-quoted? Hehe, ya, and it tends to burn my ass when I see "Those that use mag loadouts higher than 30rds are hoses. Play with 30rd mags, you become a better player because you are tactically more careful, yada, yada, yada." Only because it doesn't matter if I use 30rd Star mags, locaps, midcaps, or high caps, I treat each and everyone the same, and play the same no matter what. I choose my ammo weights better than I get picky about numbers of BBs in the mag. Have had enough experiences of 20-30 shots being taken at me using 0.20g BBs, through light brush, and none have gotten through. Dealt with it myself, even after I upgraded my MP5, shot 350fps and even that, would take numerous BBs to get a hit in those conditions. Up the BB weight, more realistic to a point. What would have taken me 10-20rds of 0.20g ammo, would take 3-5rd burst with 0.25g or heavier. Range gets better too. Give me a Star mag loaded with 30 x 0.20g BBs, I'll tell ya where to go. Give me a Star 30rd mag loaded with 0.25g, 0.28g or 0.30g, no problem, that's much higher performance if you know what you are doing for ballistics (case in point, I use 0.30g BBs very effectively in my G19........ shoots around 300fps with 0.20g...... out to 120ft easy. Hell, I could snipe with that thing if it wasn't so loud). Upping the weight on the ammo has greater advantages to ANY airsoft gun than upgrading and still using the featherweight indoor ammo.

Snake Eyes April 20th, 2006 20:01

LOW CAPS definately.

Identity May 9th, 2006 23:41

Both.
1 high cap.
Several low caps.

Greylocks May 10th, 2006 06:30

Let it die?

Manaconda May 10th, 2006 07:44

Fact: Having a Hicap mag takes away the added stress of haveing to reload mid fire fight. Good idea!
Fact: Standard or Lowcaps make a person conserve their shots. You can take a seasoned lowcap vetran and give him/her a Hicap and they WILL spray more with the confidence that they have the ammo. I normaly play with Lowcaps but recently played a few games with Hicaps and I tottaly sprayed more. Now I didn't spray as much as the other guys but hey that's the way they play on this field. I'm not saying anything bad here guys it's just a diffrent headspace, comforte zone.

Just my oppinion

Lisa May 10th, 2006 09:34

I tend to use both, how ever those that wanna simulate the realism of low cap load outs should carry weights to make up the difference between those light airsoft mags and real real steel load outs. ;)

I wonder if there's enough room to put lead weight in the bottom of lowcaps since people aren't filling them to capacity.

sherlockbonez May 10th, 2006 12:05

I only use starmags, found no real difference playing with ppl with hicaps, I just gotta reload a little more often.

Snow_Raven May 10th, 2006 20:53

Recieved my box of Star Ak mags a fe weeks ago, and they're great, I only have 2 TM locaps before and these fit my needs perfectly. Nothing gets the blood pumping more then trying to open your mag pouches to reload while 3 guys are trying to flank you :)

BC_K September 30th, 2006 06:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by zone 69
i was going to get four 190 round hicaps but ill have to think abuot it now maybe just 60 round mags i would need more mags then I just dont know now

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Greylocks September 30th, 2006 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by zone 69
i was going to get four 190 round hicaps but ill have to think abuot it now maybe just 60 round mags i would need more mags then I just dont know now

Start by getting your age verified. If you dont, forget trying to buy anything.

Ducky September 30th, 2006 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks
Quote:

Originally Posted by zone 69
i was going to get four 190 round hicaps but ill have to think abuot it now maybe just 60 round mags i would need more mags then I just dont know now

Start by getting your age verified. If you dont, forget trying to buy anything.

Since when do you need to be age verified to buy mags? Mags make it though customs you dont even need to deal with a Canadian airsoft dealer to get them. Nowhere in there did be mention buying an AEG.

On topic Locaps here, besides brand new players who have nothing else ever MAA player uses locaps or the star simcaps. Some midcaps but everyone seems to only put locap capacity in.

fasterbassdrums September 30th, 2006 12:43

id say do whatever the hell you want lo caps hi caps whatever, i personally chose locaps with a hicap backup, but whatever floats your boat, dont let someone elses opinion change your opinion.

yawn September 30th, 2006 15:58

For killing cockraoches...

5-7 loaded hi-caps strategically placed around my apartment. Your first shot can hit the roach but the next one is gonna be a bit of luck. You need to follow up that first shot with the next one with continuous auto fire.

Noise can scare away a roach but not if you kill it quick enough.

LUTNIT September 30th, 2006 23:50

I prefer midcaps, the target I can hit with a single shot from a real gun I can usually hit with a short burst (3-9 rounds) from a moderatly upgraded AEG (~350fps) up to about 80-100 feet. So 30 round real steel mags x 3 rounds to simulate one real steel bullet = 90 rounds. Most midcaps are 90-130 rounds in what would be a real steel 30 round mag so all is well. Lowcaps also work well as they usually have 68 rounds in what would be a real steel 30 round mag.

Saying reloading mid firefight better simulates real battlefield conditions is completly true. But when your reloading 2-3x more often than you would be if you had a real gun because your BB's dont have anywhere near the power of a real bullet just means all the realism is lost to me. (talking about STAR realcaps here)

I tried the STAR realcaps and found that I would empty one 30 round mag doing the work of 2-3 bullets from a real gun. I dont have military experience but this is just from my target shooting experience.

I've been using hicaps recently because I got a new CA36 and CA M15A4 which both come stock with hicaps and I indeed have found that I have been using a lot more ammo than I normally do when using lows or mids. There is just that psycological effect it has, I'm not against hicaps, I could care less if people I'm playing with or against are using STAR realcaps or hicaps, I just prefer not to use hicaps personally. There is of course the fact that a person with a hicap can continually fire on auto for a lot longer than someone with lows who would have to reload but keep in mind a bush is considered hard cover in airsoft because those twigs and leaves can deflect bullets.

swatt13 October 1st, 2006 01:37

hicaps are fine for beginners.

Swatt Six-Four October 1st, 2006 01:49

Yeah hi caps are fun , but, lo caps for me are where it's at. Nothing like having to do a mag change in a firefight and having your squad members backing you with supperessive fire.It just adds to the rush for me. I think that if you have a new gun and can't afford new lo caps to go with , thats cool. I just like lo caps cause you really have to work to get the kill. Just my opnion.

Greylocks October 1st, 2006 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducky
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks
Quote:

Originally Posted by zone 69
i was going to get four 190 round hicaps but ill have to think abuot it now maybe just 60 round mags i would need more mags then I just dont know now

Start by getting your age verified. If you dont, forget trying to buy anything.

Since when do you need to be age verified to buy mags? Mags make it though customs you dont even need to deal with a Canadian airsoft dealer to get them. Nowhere in there did be mention buying an AEG.

On topic Locaps here, besides brand new players who have nothing else ever MAA player uses locaps or the star simcaps. Some midcaps but everyone seems to only put locap capacity in.

I'm strongly suggesting this to resolve the many other questions this person has. If he's verified, he will have access to the full forums, and better information overall. On top of that, he will be able to ask his questions in person and get better answers on top of seeing first-hand what he's talking about.


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