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Immelmann March 6th, 2013 00:02

G&g sg 550?
 
Hey guys, I'm considering going for a G&G SG 550. I've looked around here and elsewhere, but I haven't managed to find much info beyond people singing its praises.

I know there are a few of you on here with them, so I was wondering, is there anything I should know before deciding on one?


Also, I don't suppose I should get my hopes up for the STANAG mag compatibility (maybe that's just the 556) carrying over to airsoft M4 mags...



Edit: Crap, is there any way I can fix the capitalization in the thread title?

Schlyder March 6th, 2013 00:34

The G&G SIG 550 is a great airsoft rifle. Built solid. Shoots great.
Real Steel SIG 550s do not take M4 mags. Neither does the airsoft.
I prefer the TM low cap mags for looks and performance, and no modding needed. (MAG brand need minor mods)

You can squeeze a 9.6v mini stick in it if you do a little mod with the battery set up

TaroBear March 6th, 2013 01:13

TM mags are awesome, but I'm pretty pleased with the stock G&G mags. They're kind of orange-ish in tint, but they have this little feeder nub stick that makes sure every last BB in the mag is used, which is something TM and MAG mags lack. Surprisingly, I'm going to have to say that the MAG ones feel the most solid. I generally run half TM, half MAG, with the MAG ones coming out for more rough-and-tumble use. The G&G line is definitively the way to go for SIG rifles. I'm quite confident that I can smash half the airsoft guns I see at games with just the stock of my SIG.

*Flips on SIG Signal*

Styrak March 6th, 2013 09:11

If you want a Sig at all, get the G&G. Whether it's the 550, 552, or 553.
Stamped steel body, real profile outer barrel, polymer furniture very similar to the real one, no wires running inside. You can also change handguards out with the real one.
Oh, also solid as fuck.

Immelmann March 6th, 2013 14:16

How are the stock internals? Would anything need upgrading? Also, which hop-up does it use? I'm finding an alarming lack of info on google...

Also, have you guys had any issues with the motor?

Schlyder March 6th, 2013 15:33

Stock internals haven't given me a problem at all. Haven't had to do a thing with mine... just battery mods. Don't worry about upgrading anything until something breaks. Which will likely be a long time. No issues with the motor either.

Styrak March 6th, 2013 15:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immelmann (Post 1769276)
How are the stock internals? Would anything need upgrading? Also, which hop-up does it use? I'm finding an alarming lack of info on google...

Also, have you guys had any issues with the motor?

I've ran mine for about 2 years. Opened it up last summer, took a look, put it back together and ran it more. Didn't need anything. Although it may need a new piston head, as the basic G&G piston head design sucks (seems like I'm loosing some FPS, down to 360 or so from 380 or so).

No issues.

TaroBear March 6th, 2013 16:06

The lack of info is because the SIG platform isn't all that popular to begin with...and the G&Gs are the premium end of the selection. They're expensive, but worth the money. No issues with it yet, although I had an improved inner barrel put in because I'm blind. The most trouble you'll have with the gun is getting a battery to fit. I solved this problem by adding a PEQ box to the side of the gun. To be fair, EVERY SIG rifle has battery issues, not just the G&G ones.

KBarlow March 6th, 2013 17:13

I just got an ICS 552 Commando, and it's great. It has a profile similar to an AK. As everyone else has mentioned, the battery space in the handguard is extremely limited. The only batteries I know that will fit are 8.4v stick batteries and LiPo batteries. I just ordered two 11.1v 15C LiPo buffer tube batteries. Should give good semi-auto response and a decent rate of fire without blowing up the internals like a 40C LiPo, and they fit in the handguard. Someone linked this to me recently:

http://www.icsbb.com/EDM/SG/ESG.html

Just shows the dimensions of the battery compartment. They are literally identical to the dimensions of an 11.1v LiPo buffer tube battery.

Styrak March 6th, 2013 17:44

We're talking about G&G's here, not ICS. No offense.

Schlyder March 6th, 2013 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaroBear (Post 1769346)
The lack of info is because the SIG platform isn't all that popular to begin with...and the G&Gs are the premium end of the selection. They're expensive, but worth the money. No issues with it yet, although I had an improved inner barrel put in because I'm blind. The most trouble you'll have with the gun is getting a battery to fit. I solved this problem by adding a PEQ box to the side of the gun. To be fair, EVERY SIG rifle has battery issues, not just the G&G ones.

There are no issues with the G&G Sig 550s battery setup.
...you can run an 8.4v mini stick, and if you are happy with that, you do not have to do a thing.
If you want to go to a 9.6v mini stick you need to rig the battery connections a bit different... not a major mod to deal with.

The 552.. well that's a different story. Mods are required to run a mini nunchuck battery

Immelmann March 7th, 2013 02:44

Thanks for all the feedback guys, this is absolutely fantastic! I'll definitely have to look into handguards as well now.

Just one thing for clarification: did you guys really not do anything when you got yours? Not even shimming or lube/cleaning?

I think I've settled on this as my final decision. It was either a 550 or a CA G36C, but the amount of money I'd have to put into that for working internals and the full-size conversion probably would've pushed it close to the $700 mark.

Also, something else caught my attention - you said part of the lack of popularity was the 'premium' price, but 400 really doesn't seem that bad. Most of what I've seen would need upgrading out of the box and would probably come to a similar price point when all was said and done. Do people really only see the up-front cost for the gun and not think about what they'll have to do to make it run reliably? :S
Or is this something I'll just come to understand once I'm actually properly involved in the hobby?


Edit: I forgot to ask, do you guys use any optics on yours? Or are the sights really as good as people say?

Schlyder March 7th, 2013 04:59

Nope.. I've done nothing to either mechbox on my 550 or 552. Never cracked them open... No need.
Both shoot very good, completely stock. Great range and accuracy.
You will have plenty of use before you need to do anything, other than routine maintenance of course.

I just use the iron sights. No optics.

Styrak March 7th, 2013 07:45

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Originally Posted by Immelmann (Post 1769601)
Thanks for all the feedback guys, this is absolutely fantastic! I'll definitely have to look into handguards as well now.

Just one thing for clarification: did you guys really not do anything when you got yours? Not even shimming or lube/cleaning?

I think I've settled on this as my final decision. It was either a 550 or a CA G36C, but the amount of money I'd have to put into that for working internals and the full-size conversion probably would've pushed it close to the $700 mark.

Also, something else caught my attention - you said part of the lack of popularity was the 'premium' price, but 400 really doesn't seem that bad. Most of what I've seen would need upgrading out of the box and would probably come to a similar price point when all was said and done. Do people really only see the up-front cost for the gun and not think about what they'll have to do to make it run reliably? :S
Or is this something I'll just come to understand once I'm actually properly involved in the hobby?


Edit: I forgot to ask, do you guys use any optics on yours? Or are the sights really as good as people say?

Yes really. Didn't do anything and you don't need to. Why is that hard to believe? Someone may have said "premium price" because they are the most expensive Sig, but they are worth it. Also back when I got my 550 I paid about $650. Still worth it though.

TaroBear March 7th, 2013 11:01

I put a holosight on, but I have the 553, which doesn't only has really tiny back up sights. The gun is perfectly fine as is. You COULD pimp it out...but there's really no reason to.

Immelmann March 7th, 2013 11:38

I guess just because almost every AEG I've looked (with a few exceptions, mind you) at I've understood to need some sort of attention.

I feel like an SG would look stupid with optics, but I don't know. Irons/optics seem to be down to personal preference, so I won't know until I try. Still, better to try on a 550 than the StG44 I hope to get :P

Styrak March 7th, 2013 19:51

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Originally Posted by Immelmann (Post 1769695)
I guess just because almost every AEG I've looked (with a few exceptions, mind you) at I've understood to need some sort of attention.

Most actually don't need anything. People just always want to change and upgrade stuff for some reason, sometimes for no reason.

CR0M March 7th, 2013 20:10

my take on the G&G sig... for the price your paying, you could buy a ics sig and another gun...

Ive read many reviews, and yes, everyone says the G&G is the best, and I believe them too. But after gaming a season with a sig, i would have spent the money on something else.

If only they made the 556 with the same folding stock as the 550-552 everything would be cool...

I have no problem with the guns, they shoot great, perform great, all that jazz... but these mags Marty!, SOMETHING has to be done about your mags!!! lol... they are big, bulky, and you have your choice between low caps, or high caps.... or mid caps that you have to mod... such a hasstle. And they aint cheap on top of that

Styrak March 7th, 2013 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR0M (Post 1769929)
my take on the G&G sig... for the price your paying, you could buy a ics sig and another gun...

Ive read many reviews, and yes, everyone says the G&G is the best, and I believe them too. But after gaming a season with a sig, i would have spent the money on something else.

If only they made the 556 with the same folding stock as the 550-552 everything would be cool...

I have no problem with the guns, they shoot great, perform great, all that jazz... but these mags Marty!, SOMETHING has to be done about your mags!!! lol... they are big, bulky, and you have your choice between low caps, or high caps.... or mid caps that you have to mod... such a hasstle. And they aint cheap on top of that

Personal preference is one thing. The gun is the most realistic and best performing Sig out there. As for mags..it took me about 2 minutes to mod 2 mags to fit the G&G. And you can get midcaps for about $10-$15 each. I took off the mag couplers on mine so they're not much bigger than M4 mags.

CR0M March 7th, 2013 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1769941)
Personal preference is one thing. The gun is the most realistic and best performing Sig out there. As for mags..it took me about 2 minutes to mod 2 mags to fit the G&G. And you can get midcaps for about $10-$15 each. I took off the mag couplers on mine so they're not much bigger than M4 mags.

I modded me up some mag brand mid caps. They click in and hold and all that, a couple better than others. But even that little extra effort to make them click bothers me, even if its only slightly. The ics lows and hi brand click in effortlessly, Im sure the g&g brand is the same.

If my modded midcaps clicked in as easily as the lowcaps I probably wouldnt have an issue with sigs.

I think what you have to ask yourself when buying a g&g sig is, why are you buying it?

performance? they are great and all, but at the price tag are they that much better then cheaper options? no...

the look? to drop $500 on a gun only for someone to ask you what kind of galil or ak you have is pretty disappointing since you could buy either of those guns at half the price lol

MaciekA March 7th, 2013 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR0M (Post 1769929)
but these mags Marty!, SOMETHING has to be done about your mags!!!

Best reference ever.

Anyway, I've gotta make like a tree and get outta here..

Styrak March 8th, 2013 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by CR0M (Post 1769982)
I think what you have to ask yourself when buying a g&g sig is, why are you buying it?

performance? they are great and all, but at the price tag are they that much better then cheaper options? no...

the look? to drop $500 on a gun only for someone to ask you what kind of galil or ak you have is pretty disappointing since you could buy either of those guns at half the price lol

I bought mine because of both of those, and it's also one of the best designed and best built airsoft rifles out there (made of steel, almost exactly like the real one, down to pistol grip size, stamped steel body, handguard swapping capability, material the furniture is made of, bolt design, wire-less design through the main part of the gun). I also have a real one so having the airsoft version is a great compliment to it. Training, etc.

Immelmann May 29th, 2013 02:58

Bump.

I'll be buying one in the next week or two, so another question came to mind: what springs are you using? Just trying to figure out if I'm going to need to downgrade to an m110.

Also, are you guys running 9.6s or are 8.4v sticks fine?

Schlyder May 29th, 2013 03:51

My 550 and 552 are both stock springs. They shoot around 380 stock. I use 9.6v stick as well have a 8.4v stick too.

Strelok May 29th, 2013 10:23

I get my G&G 550 next month. Woo!

Styrak June 2nd, 2013 13:03

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Originally Posted by Immelmann (Post 1800269)
Bump.

I'll be buying one in the next week or two, so another question came to mind: what springs are you using? Just trying to figure out if I'm going to need to downgrade to an m110.

Also, are you guys running 9.6s or are 8.4v sticks fine?

My gun has been completely stock for 2-3 years.

Immelmann June 17th, 2013 15:29

It came, and oh my balls this thing is beautiful. I don't think I could have bought a nicer gun.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showpos...3&postcount=34

Rossco66 February 6th, 2014 18:44

I too am thinking of going down the SG550 road. I was curious about accuracy. I've seen a review or two on the net claiming tremendous accuracy and I wondered if any of the owners can attest to it. I'm assuming a stock weapon out of the box.
I like the idea of putting a 4X optic on it but only if the accuracy is above average or it will be a waste of $. G&G will apparently put a rail on top of the receiver for about $35. Has anyone else tried this option?

Strelok February 6th, 2014 19:01

I'm currently building mine up to be a DMR with an Rhop setup

After cleaning up the gearbox to get better consistency out of the thing i've been getting great results as far as accuracy goes. Very fond of this gun!

As for the top rail, I'd go for it. The gun is accurate out of the box and could make use of a good scope.

Rossco66 February 6th, 2014 19:41

Thanks for that. Do you think that Rhop is really that much better than other configurations? I think the gun would look awesome with an ACOG on it!

Schlyder February 7th, 2014 16:44

Both my 550 and 552 are excellent for accuracy.

Rossco66 February 7th, 2014 16:59

Have you any idea to what range? Are they both stock or have you modded them?

I'm thinking the SG550 would make a great support / slower play rifle rather than the assault class my M4 fits into.

Strelok February 7th, 2014 17:35

Lol. Just because it has a longer barrel doesn't group it into some class system. I use long guns all the time without much issue. I prefer them in fact. It shoots and it shoots well.

Rossco66 February 7th, 2014 17:40

I was thinking more of a play style than pigeonholing the gun. You've echoed what I've heard from other sources and I think I will have to get one in my hands to make the final decision. Thanks for your feedback its very helpful.


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