does anyone here prefer .20 bbs?
 

not speaking cqb as it doesnt matter that much (or im ignorant) but for outdoor games.

Sometimes at a game if the wind is non-existent I think to myself today would be a good game for some .20s .

But if you do like .20s why? have you tweaked your setup? just curious

unless the field regulates it, I always use .25 or heavier, more consistency and more energy transferred to the target, so less likely for them not to feel it

.20 compared to what?
I dont think most people use 20's unless in cqb. Some (cqb) fields only allow 20's to keep the energy down for safety. Namely ttac i remember when Brian came to our sniper clinic a few years back and learnd about the energy of diferent weights of bbs and such and then made the. 20 only rule.
Otherwise 20 are useles for outdoor ranges lotts folks wont really fell em at 400fps they wont have much energy after abojt 150ft
For outdoors i think most folks run 25-30 depending on their base velocity (with 20) and how effective their hop up is.
I run 28 and 30 in my aeg and pistols and 36 and 40 in my sniper rifle.
If u are usein 12 just throw that shit in the garbage now befor u ruin you hop up with the seams on those crappy walmar/canadian tire bb's order up some(or see your local retailer im not familer with hamilton airsoft dealers) some good bb's like bbbastards in 25 or 28 weight youll be happy.

I use .28 myself, Im just wondering if anyone prefers .20s

My LCT RPK runs .28 BBB's only unless I need to run tracers then it's .25. Preference is still .28's though.

.20's are very usefull- poke a hole in a bag and throw it like a ghetto hand grenade
- sock puppet "eyes"
- in a small can for a prosthetic rattle snake tail
- dump them all over and tell your friends that you were in a hell of a firefight - sprinkle them as you go so you don't get lost. I'm sure there is more...

I've been running anything from .28s to .32s

Typically i run .28 and or .25.
Dont really like the .20s at all

Maybe for interior games were the wind is not going to fuck up the trajectory... But i prefer .25 for everything.

In Spain I use to use .23 but I cant find' em anywhere here.

I have seen Madbull bio cartons in .23. They are around but tough to find.

All my guns are tuned to .28 which keeps life simple. I wouldn't mind a CQB game with .20 though.

I wouldn't run anything lighter than a 0.25 even out of a pistol, unless it was extreme CQB. I do have a friend who runs 0.20g BBs from his M60, which uas a high ROF (shoots 380 ish I think); that thing is a terror. Other than that, 0.20g BBs are only useful at the chrono station.

If you want to hit anything at medium to longer ranges without using 15 shots, you'll want to use heavy ammo.

I've recently started using .3 and .32g BBs. Might go to .36 soon.

an m60 is not always meant for extreme accuracy though. the way I see it, using .2's can add more random flyers when running high ROF and it can also help keep costs down when putting that much down range. (even though BBB .25's are the same price)

not sure if that's his idea but the theory is sound. I just prefer to not expend that many BB's as it means I'm carrying more when running the RPK or Daytona M249. lol

.20 for indoor, limit to 350.. just to keep muzzle energy down to reduce the incidence of injury.. most of the fight happend withing a range where hopup is not material to accuracy in CQB. no downside to the lighter projectile, and a good upside in less blood flying around.

I generally use .28 or .30 for field play, as accuracy and range and penetration power is material in this environment.

I like the ability to blow through bushes that imprudent players think are effective cover.

Energy is not supposed to be 1/2x ( speed x speed x weight ) ? So the weight difference is insignifiant vs the speed ?
( maybe i am wrong and muzzle energy is not calculated that way )

muzzle engergy isnt so important, but a heavy projectile will retain its energy longer, more momentum

That's why I said it was a terror, not terrible. They worked well with the high ROF. I also have some lower FPS guns that can't shoot a heavier round well like 0.28,0.30, etc. although hop-up, air seal, and barrel give you BB stability, you need a certain amount of punch to sustain flight. In extreme CQB (50' engagement distances or less), is stick with a 0.25.

I use .20's in my grenades. Other then that I use .25's or occasionally .28's in everything else.

I suppose that could be done. Personally, I recycle mag leftovers, end clipping from used bags and floorfallen BBs for nades and claymore mines. .20g is just what I use for chrono standard.

And chrony. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/images/...on_mrgreen.gif

Nope I like my .30's and higher for both AEG's and Sniper guns

.2s are shit outdoors in my opinion i never use them unless its indoors for CQB since the wind is a serious issue whilst playing outdoors with ,2s

dont forget some BBs below .28g will have bubbles, and those are never centered.
When you get your hop set as flat as it'll go and you see your BBs do that random banana peel out at the end of your range, that's not wind. That's the BB destabilizing and rolling in a random direction. It also means you need to be running heavier ammo to eliminate that peel out :)

shush you! :D

Umm... All BB's have bubbles in them to a lesser or greater degree, that's part of the manufacturing process. One of the prime differences between a well made BB (BB Bastard) and a crap BB (Canadian Tire or Walmart brand) is that in a well made BB the bubble is always centered, and in the crap BB they can, and usually are, off-center, causing the BB to fly in weird flight paths regardless of wind or cover. This isn't really an issue of weight but of quality.