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cooney July 31st, 2012 17:49

Where is all the airsoft vietnam interest in Ontario?
 
I have been waiting for vietnam games in airsoft for a while. I was upset that I missed some of the LZ woodstock games since I was under 18. Now I see no more being hosted lately or the lack of interest.

Where are all the players interested in Vietnam era airsoft games?

hollywood... July 31st, 2012 17:52

Pm - bravo-one-six

Brian McIlmoyle July 31st, 2012 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooney (Post 1685838)
I have been waiting for vietnam games in airsoft for a while. I was upset that I missed some of the LZ woodstock games since I was under 18. Now I see no more being hosted lately or the lack of interest.

Where are all the players interested in Vietnam era airsoft games?

I think the interest is still there ... and I believe that there is action happening but not on ASC

poke the In Country guys

cooney August 2nd, 2012 09:29

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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1685843)
I think the interest is still there ... and I believe that there is action happening but not on ASC

I'm on their FB group, and no airsoft action related to vietnam.

I'm going move to Quebec now :(

Aper August 2nd, 2012 09:37

Yeah here in Quebec we have a solid group of Vietnam reenactment. It'll worth the trip ;)

cooney August 2nd, 2012 09:42

If you guys had a big game at least 24 hours. I go for sure.

MadMorbius August 2nd, 2012 10:17

There used to be a big following. Reality is, they're all getting old. Airsoft doesn't get the same kind of prioritization it used to.

Aegiis August 2nd, 2012 11:42

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Originally Posted by cooney (Post 1686716)
If you guys had a big game at least 24 hours. I go for sure.

I'm pretty sure you could arrange something with 5kull and a couple of the guys who would LOVE a forward deployment of recon troops or similar.

Kaonashi August 2nd, 2012 11:53

I'd be into it, I have era specific weapons but would have to work on some kit.

Derpnation August 2nd, 2012 12:14

I think a Korean war would be a amazing one especially Battle of Chosin Reservoir scenario and if any of you guys know what happened and how there were literary thousands of Chinese soldiers charging at Americans even if they didn't have guns but it would need to take place on a really cold day to just make it more accurate to the actual battle and a set amount of ammo to simulate the large ammo shortage they had

Brian McIlmoyle August 2nd, 2012 12:57

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Originally Posted by cooney (Post 1686709)
I'm on their FB group, and no airsoft action related to vietnam.

I'm going move to Quebec now :(

well Cooney, looks like you have a project... revitalize Namsoft in southern Ontario..

get at it

cadpat_tact August 2nd, 2012 13:08

I'd totally get into Namsoft if I hadn't already caught the WWII bug!

Fuji August 2nd, 2012 13:17

I have a VC kit :)

Disco_Dante August 2nd, 2012 14:42

I'm interested in a VC load out and will be back in Ontario soon.

Forever_kaos August 2nd, 2012 14:53

In Country will most likely be at the Military Muster I mentioned to you Cooney.. Come on out to it!
Message a few of them to confirm.

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Originally Posted by Fuji (Post 1686832)
I have a VC kit :)

NO! You're one of ours :D

Kokanee August 4th, 2012 16:07

Like Morb said, those of us who were into it are now mostly in our late twenties or early thirties, with careers, wives, kids etc. Cutting back on the speciality games is one thing that happens to make room in your life for the other stuff once you start settling down.

I bowed out of namsoft a few years ago, and I don't attend skirmish games any more; which has freed up my schedule to still attend larger milsims that don't require specialized equipment. I wish it wasn't so, as namsoft games are EPIC.

MaciekA August 4th, 2012 21:02

The real question you're asking is whether a sufficient number of players in the halo of the GTA are able to set aside multicam, A-TACS, marpat, rail systems, new-fangled weapons, etc, and go retro with M16s, AKs, woodland camo, less sophisticated rigs and mag pouches, etc.

I suspect the interest would be there if someone were to campaign for it.

Some people are already prepared, some not, etc. Some parts of going "fully" namsoft are going to be inexpensive (clothing, etc), some not so much (guns).

I think you've got quite an advocacy task ahead of you, but it's doable. You just need to pave the way and show those of us who never got into the Vietnam thing (myself included) what a minimum setup would involve, one that ideally would satisfy purists and not spoil the authenticity on game day.

shiftsup August 5th, 2012 00:17

I have a VC kit.

Life-balance allows me to play airsoft maybe 6 times a year.

I'd be up for a Nam game.

Dress code doesn't need to be crazy. Tan / Black v. OD / Woodland / Tiger Stripe seems sensible enough.

No bullpups or fancy attachments.

Pretty sure 20-30 players can be found for for 8-12 hours of gameplay in a field that is accessible to the GTA, Horseshoe and SWO player-base.

Curo August 5th, 2012 00:18

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Originally Posted by shiftsup (Post 1687894)
I have a VC kit.

Life-balance allows me to play airsoft maybe 6 times a year.

I'd be up for a Nam game.

Dress code doesn't need to be crazy. Tan / Black v. OD / Woodland / Tiger Stripe seems sensible enough.

No bullpups or fancy attachments.

Pretty sure 20-30 players can be found for for 8-12 hours of gameplay in a field that is accessible to the GTA, Horseshoe and SWO player-base.

But what if your one of those all out nam guys with a colt scope for there m16 (i dont got one, but I like them.)

shiftsup August 5th, 2012 00:42

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Originally Posted by Cobalt Caliber (Post 1687895)
But what if your one of those all out nam guys with a colt scope for there m16 (i dont got one, but I like them.)

I think at this point most of the all out nam guys have been inserted into the jungle never to be heard from again.

Pretty sure scopes would be allowed though.

Sorry, what I meant by fancy attachments was red dot sights, rail mounted foregrips. Things like that.

Scopes, suppressors, grenade launchers, that stuff is kosher for the Viet Nam US side.

Regardless of kit restrictions or lack thereof, I'd definitely be up for a Nam game, even a small one. I'll be sure to bring a whistle too:)...didn't bring one last year :(

hollywood... August 5th, 2012 03:51

I have a full US loadout,... get er going Cooney

shiftsup August 5th, 2012 12:46

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Originally Posted by -Skeletor- (Post 1687949)
Within reason, you shouldn't see an Infantry Platoon rocking suppressors, scopes, etc on their M16s. In pictures I've only seen the M203 and XM148 used by SEALs and SASR, all the pictures I've seen of Infantry, LRRPs/Rangers, etc they used the M79 through out the war.

Most certainly.

However, that sort of stuff falls into the impression / reenactment category. If we are just talking a Viet Nam game to get things rolling certain kit restrictions most likely wouldn't be in the mix.

Historical Airsoft has a very fragile balance. The hardcore players are easily outnumbered by those that want to play with passable kit. Finding the acceptable balance in regards to kit restrictions is a struggle between historical game cancellation and historical game in name only.

The last WW2 game I attended was a Level 2 game this past winter. It was pretty good. Lots of effort was made to look the part. I enjoyed myself. But 2 of the Allied players I went on patrol with asked me what a German soldier looked like as they didn't know. Other players discussed CYMA Thompsons v. KA Thompsons during quiet times. So much for attempting an immersion (It wasn't an immersion game anyway). Would have been a nice touch though.

cooney August 5th, 2012 13:00

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Originally Posted by hollywood... (Post 1687917)
I have a full US loadout,... get er going Cooney

I'm no host. Trust me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1686823)
well Cooney, looks like you have a project... revitalize Namsoft in southern Ontario..

get at it

I only know most general things of the vietnam war and the conflicts related to it. I'm still reading books and researching in my spare time.

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Originally Posted by Forever_kaos (Post 1686887)
In Country will most likely be at the Military Muster I mentioned to you Cooney.. Come on out to it!

No ride :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftsup (Post 1688005)
The last WW2 game I attended was a Level 2 game this past winter. It was pretty good. Lots of effort was made to look the part. I enjoyed myself. But 2 of the Allied players I went on patrol with asked me what a German soldier looked like as they didn't know. Other players discussed CYMA Thompsons v. KA Thompsons during quiet times. So much for attempting an immersion (It wasn't an immersion game anyway). Would have been a nice touch though.

Our German forces were pinned, starving, limited in working guns. (Winter blew our forces away). We resulted in desperate measures of using shovels to throw snow and Broken guns to convince the allies they worked.

Amos August 5th, 2012 13:14

You'll continue to be "no host" unless you try.

Get input from experienced people and give it a go. Worse case ontario it just ends up with people shooting BB's at each other.

Kingsix August 5th, 2012 13:15

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Originally Posted by cooney (Post 1688010)
I'm no host. Trust me.

Don't worry Cooney I'll help you host.

hollywood... August 5th, 2012 13:22

Cooney - get ahold of Nate and see if we can use LZ Woodstock.
I'll help you host too

shiftsup August 5th, 2012 13:29

Quote:

Our German forces were pinned, starving, limited in working guns. (Winter blew our forces away). We resulted in desperate measures of using shovels to throw snow and Broken guns to convince the allies they worked.
Being a German soldier in January 1945 was a struggle. Guess you got somewhat immersed.

Finch field is a good place for a Viet Nam game. Great field. Many have played there at least once so it is familiar. They sell bbs on site too.

The Faceman August 12th, 2012 23:08

I'm in too man, I'll even wear American OD instead of the superior Canadian OD. Trying to find a decent triangular handguard at the moment, they look cooler anyway. If you build it, I will come! Finch's field in the spring would be perfect.

forcerecon85 August 16th, 2012 00:23

Sadly Josh (Kokonee) had it right, life is coming up. Some have school, others have careers and career transitions and we have to pick our battles and events. I am however glad that there is a post and people up for VN games.

The great thing about Vietnam is that it's cheap (webgear, helmet, uniform under $300), the average firefight was less than 50 meters (airsoft range) and a lot of small unit tactics just like in airsoft.

You could run a loose game where it's Green as US, Tan as NVA, armalites vs. AK's. Have fun for an afternoon and if you really liked it, watch a movie, google some history and talk to Renegade, Hollywood, MrEvolution, S.H.I.E.L.D., Voice of Reason, Bravo 1/6 or myself.

We've branched out into re-enacting as well and we'll be riding tanks and flying in helicopters on the 25th, talking to the vets and answering basic questions on the war. Beer and bunker parties after the gates close. Can't go wrong with that.

ladytresses August 19th, 2012 00:58

The nam
 
Love it, post it, shit i will offer up my field in Durham for that one (was going to save the opener for a ww2 game but what the f. I have a field in Milton at the end of Walkers LN that i am getting ready for next year (f--- i hate broken glass), could run it there. You could use waterdown for a vietnam skirm day. Shit Cooney i give you field and take care of the bullshit like insurance etc. If you can put one together i give you wHAt ever you need (except my wife....she so dam hot...you wouldnt know what to do anyways let alone with her friend patrica too.) F--- i love vietnam games, played at several of the woodstock games but all were rained out. (funny i am still waiting for the make up games......never happen... and if it did it was at FR and you had to pay again....... ass-----) I have been trying to put one on for three years :results one game 22 players and two cancelled events, but shit i have a full early war NVA outfit from the slippers, to the gilligan hat. Add my stupid electric blow back AK and i am ready for a pho buffet (rare beef, maybe some quail eggs and no cat or the herb that taste like dam black licorse please). Shit i will bring my mega phone even.

Do it cooney, do it......... American G.I so far from home, whats your girlfriend doing (your best friend ...ass)

cooney August 19th, 2012 01:44

I want to play too you know ;).

I'm in the works with creating a game with objectives and props. I don't think I can pull this off anytime soon. But maybe early spring.

dodgetheram August 19th, 2012 07:34

Well shit, it wouldnt be a Vietnam milsim without "Big old fat rain" lol

Dimitri August 19th, 2012 11:03

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Originally Posted by Derpnation (Post 1686811)
I think a Korean war would be a amazing one especially Battle of Chosin Reservoir scenario and if any of you guys know what happened and how there were literary thousands of Chinese soldiers charging at Americans

Not to take away anything from the American's at Chosin Reservoir, Maybe look closer to home?

The Battle of Kapyong, one which is still mentioned in Chinese literature, The Canadian 2 PPCLI, and the Australian 3 RAR, combined with the support of 15 Sherman tanks to support the Australian positions, and the New Zealand 16 RNZA, to give both the Canadian's and Australians Artillery support from the south, held off the Chinese attack that outnumbered them 5 to 1.

Only suffering 47 KIA, and 99 wounded, (Canadians only 10 KIA and 23 wounded) verses the approximately one thousand Chinese and North Koreans that were KIA, and from some Chinese literature I've read 6,000 Chinese were wounded, over the course of 3 days.

Dimitri

Bravo One-Six August 27th, 2012 23:40

The Vietnam interest in Ontario is flying around in helicopters on the weekend. We realized we didn't even need airsoft to get what we wanted.

Host games and we'll come. The core of the core. Rucksacks and all. But when we tell you what we've seen, and if you're the right kind of person... you won't be thinking airsoft any more.

cooney August 28th, 2012 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo One-Six (Post 1696903)
The Vietnam interest in Ontario is flying around in helicopters on the weekend. We realized we didn't even need airsoft to get what we wanted.

Host games and we'll come. The core of the core. Rucksacks and all. But when we tell you what we've seen, and if you're the right kind of person... you won't be thinking airsoft any more.

Work destroyed my time for that weekend. I really did wanted to go. ( I also used my vacation days for Op Rhino thinking the muster would be on the 17th and 18th)

Jayne Finch August 28th, 2012 04:55

If you like nam you'll love what we have planned for the field next season. Pending funds of course. Lol.

Bravo One-Six August 28th, 2012 09:27

Hey Jayne, would you host a 24 hour event? I've got a few things in mind that I'd try to play out at your place....

hollywood... August 28th, 2012 09:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo One-Six (Post 1696985)
Hey Jayne, would you host a 24 hour event? I've got a few things in mind that I'd try to play out at your place....

I'd be down for that

Gunk August 28th, 2012 09:42

Deadfall at the end of September is a 24 hour event...


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