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The Chad May 17th, 2012 19:39

Super awesome L119A1 AND C8FTHB (Chad's G&P woc GBBR build)
 
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Hey all, it's been a long time coming but I am finally nearing the end of my hoarding of parts. Here is a little sneak peek for now, I apologize for the quality of the pics but it's just parts, no need for models.

Feel free to offer any suggestions, comments, complaints..........whatever
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Some of the important parts:
Saber L119A1 M4 GBBR body.
Real deal C8 handguards.
L119A1 STEEL outer barrel for WA 16"
G&P AN/PAQ4-C
UTG 5 position foregrip
TRIAD


(internals are G&P WOC full assemble kit and I have a random 3 round burst kit that came with ambi selector. Inner barrel is G&P WOC with chamber and hop up. I have no idea where the triangle sight and gas tube came from but it's nice, I think it's G&P.)


and now for something completely different......so wtf was this artist on? This was at a local Wings-up.


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The Chad May 17th, 2012 19:42

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The inspiration
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MaybeStopCalling May 18th, 2012 07:20

I know you already grabbed the UTG... but Hamilton Tactical has the actual Cadex Grip on sale, if you so desire.

The Chad May 18th, 2012 08:02

I definitely do. Thanks man, never knew about that site.

Basic-Wedge May 18th, 2012 10:01

Definitely adding Hamilton Tactical to my bookmarks. Thanks!

The Chad May 18th, 2012 10:04

I'm finding oneshot still takes the prize. Glad I found the cadex folding grips though.

MaybeStopCalling May 18th, 2012 11:16

Also, if you need the sling plate adapter... I don't know how WAs are for fitting RS, but the RS sling plate adapter can be found at Brownells for about $23.... cheaper elsewhere but I've never been able to figure out how these guys charge me $6 bucks for shipping and have stuff to my door in three days.

The Chad May 18th, 2012 11:18

Alright, thanks, this is helpful.

Alright, thanks, this is helpful. Does anyone know if a 16" barrel is from end to end, or from receiver to end?

GBBR October 31st, 2012 03:02

hey Chad, How is the build quality of the metal body and how is it preforming in your gun. I've have poor results with metal bodys that are ACM. Im planning to build a c8a2

vondnik October 31st, 2012 08:44

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1655549)
Alright, thanks, this is helpful.

Alright, thanks, this is helpful. Does anyone know if a 16" barrel is from end to end, or from receiver to end?

Usually for RS mesurment the manufacturer go from one end to the other including the barrel extention but excluding any nuzzle device

MaybeStopCalling October 31st, 2012 16:21

Couple of notes...

1. I've learned CADEX grips are cheaper at MD Charlton than they are at Hamilton Tactical. I picked mine up there for about $40.00, plus they also had the CADEX rails for about $33.00.

2. The C8FTHB/C8A3 heavy barrels for some reason are actually 15.8 inches long. I remember someone saying it was so they couldn't be sold easily in the United States (SBR and all) but yeah.

danhay November 1st, 2012 15:49

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Originally Posted by Green Synergy (Post 1720479)
1. I've learned CADEX grips are cheaper at MD Charlton than they are at Hamilton Tactical. I picked mine up there for about $40.00, plus they also had the CADEX rails for about $33.00.

Is this the MD Charlton you refer to? Will they sell things like the CADEX grip and rail to civie types?

Edit: I just noticed they have a retail store in Mississauga so I'm going to guess that's where you purchased the grip?

Thanks and cheers - Dan

MaybeStopCalling November 1st, 2012 15:55

Yep, that would be the place I purchased mine. I ended up posting both up in the BST for the price I paid for them... as much as I liked them I like running a barebones setup more.

The Chad November 1st, 2012 15:59

So I hit a couple snags.....

I have been trying to get a lower that I can strip down aand get engraved but I keep coming up empty handed......
I even bought a pretty much complete WA and when I got it, realized one of the previous owners broke both trigger guard tabs and then superglued them back on.....so I'm pretty well stuck now without the lower to complete this.

So.....anyone knows of somewhere I can get a G&P WOC or WA spec body without deep engravings..let me know!

The forward grip I am going to obtain at last minute, I may go with the stubby one from one shot.
The good news is that I'm going to have enough for two rifles, an SFW and a C7 variant.

danhay November 5th, 2012 10:14

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Originally Posted by Green Synergy (Post 1720847)
Yep, that would be the place I purchased mine. I ended up posting both up in the BST for the price I paid for them... as much as I liked them I like running a barebones setup more.

Thanks for the confirmation. I would like to pick up a CADEX grip and rail as I intend to put together a C7A2 someday.

Cheers - β

The Chad February 16th, 2013 11:01

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Partially finished my build.

Still need a G&P lower I can strip down and engrave.

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So far:
G&P AN-PAQ 4-C
Diemaco BUIS
Diemaco TRI-AD
Colt Canada C8 slim hand-guards (need to paint OD)
G&P raider grip
G&P woc steel upgrade kit
Steel outer barrel with AEG front end (Diemaco L119A1) vltor flashhider....need an a2
TM AEG Stock (used this because there is no wabble at all)
Saber L119A1 body
G&P Triangle sight and gas tube
G&P delta ring
Madbull ambi charging handle latch (can't get a real one)
Ambi selector

More to come on this build, I have another upper with the Diemaco trades that I'm using for a C7 upper, once I get a lower I can strip and engrave, I'll be swapping the lowers on this thing and finishing the L119A1 to accuracy.

Overall, this was fun....my very first GBBR Scratch build and With the exception of a couple deep detent holes that needed filing and a very problematic spring, It was fairly easy.

One thing I discovered during this build is that there must be a graveyard of lowers with broken trigger guard tabs......I had to file out the holes to prevent breaking my second set (broke them on my other L119A1 kit) and ease the pin into place.


Fuck...so I can't add more than one picture.....nice

MaybeStopCalling February 16th, 2013 17:01

What's your threading? I have a old A2 flash hider I'm willing to contribute to your project if you cover shipping.

Also, those lower tabs are the bane of just about everybody... there's a bunch of threads on RS forums from guys who've broken their actual lowers by not supporting the tabs or forcing them recklessly.

The Chad February 18th, 2013 12:44

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I turn the flashhider ccw to thread it on.

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The Chad February 18th, 2013 12:51

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MaybeStopCalling February 18th, 2013 15:42

Okay, it's yours if you want it. PM me.

The Chad February 21st, 2013 17:33

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Thanks! I'll get back on that, have an A2 I'm looking into.

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The Chad February 21st, 2013 17:34

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JadedKommando March 3rd, 2013 10:39

Are you building a C-7A2? Or C-8A2? How close are you trying to get it to the originals? I could provide some insight for authenticity.

BTW it's looking really good so far!

The Chad March 3rd, 2013 16:51

Right now I'm trying to source a few other parts.
I've been working on this for about a year and a half lol.
The build upon completion wil be:


L119A1 lower with vltor clubfoot stock and change the raider grip to something like the umbrella corp ergo grip.
CQB upper with suppressor as a barrel extension. This will be my indoor one.

C8 FTHB lower ( engraved with proper trades, the ones above the trigger, the S, R, AUTO. )
Diemaco flat top heavy barrel upper (in pictures) with trades on barrel and upper.

C7A1 lower (engraved like above)
Diemaco flat top upper with full length OD handguards.

bizkilter March 3rd, 2013 17:41

I'm not usually a fan of minimalism, but damn, TC; that thing sure is purdy "). Where'd you source the trades? I have a shop to do the engraving but haven't been able to find more than bits and pieces on google images:s

The Chad March 3rd, 2013 17:46

Thanks, I should have had at least the paq on there lol

I have to dig it back up when I get my stripped lowers but it's a file for CNC. I saw that Imperial does good engravings. I need engraved though, not just aluminum oxide deep.

I bought a few water decals for C7 and C8 a while back I may not end up using.

The Chad March 14th, 2013 12:34

So my M3X long version came along with my tester mag. Thank you VA!
So far, this thing has more recoil than my WETTI SCAR, it cycles great.

For anyone who buys the sabre l119a1 body from huang, after a bit of filing, I found no major issues but the buffer tube fit.


What is everyone's opinion of authenticity of what people call their rifles?

Example: if I take an m16 with colt trades and paint the furniture green, how is that a C7? If I paint my M4 furniture green, maybe add a folding grip, how does that make it a C8?

I struggle to find parts to build an authentic replica of a certain firearm but that's me.

Comments?

MaybeStopCalling March 14th, 2013 15:25

For me, it's all about the minor differences, and how close you get to them. If it requires a suspension of belief every time you look at it, then it's not a replica. I tend to look at the barrel... The barrel is the one constant despite how modified C7/C8s can get. At the end of the day... the C7/C8s are just minor variations on the AR-15.

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1772500)
So my M3X long version came along with my tester mag. Thank you VA!
So far, this thing has more recoil than my WETTI SCAR, it cycles great.

For anyone who buys the sabre l119a1 body from huang, after a bit of filing, I found no major issues but the buffer tube fit.


What is everyone's opinion of authenticity of what people call their rifles?

Example: if I take an m16 with colt trades and paint the furniture green, how is that a C7? If I paint my M4 furniture green, maybe add a folding grip, how does that make it a C8?

I struggle to find parts to build an authentic replica of a certain firearm but that's me.

Comments?


The Chad March 17th, 2013 10:46

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Painted furniture, added M3X and PAQ-4C

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The Chad March 17th, 2013 12:17

Thanks!

The Chad March 17th, 2013 18:42

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Finished my CQB upper today.
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When I can land a couple more lowers, I'll continue. For now, I think I have to stop :(

The Chad April 5th, 2013 20:24

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Just got another SFW barrel today thanks to the cdn hoople...


L119A1 upper almost complete now. I would love to find an Army Code front sight for it, maybe an ACOG. Lower is complete minus the clubfoot stock I want for it.
C8FTHB upper complete minus an optic of my fancy. Lower is inbound thanks to Venture.

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Obviously it's gonna be sanded out.

It's okay to be jealous :)

The Chad April 5th, 2013 21:46

Ha! Yes yes they're a bit rough still. I'm gettin there. That british thing is the first and only to go up for sale once it's all finished, I'm never gonna have an SAS loadout so there's no point in keeping it.


From what I have so far, any suggestions?

Basic-Wedge April 5th, 2013 21:57

Cadex has an online store now. As far as I can see, you could order straight from them. http://cadexdefence.com/store/index....te=common/home

Creoden April 11th, 2013 12:19

Those look great, I've been wanting to build a proper CF C8 for a while, and just looking at these makes me want to build one ever more.

The Chad April 11th, 2013 12:32

Thanks man, wait until you see this in a month. The C8FTHB will be as accurate and complete as possible based off PPLI issued ones circa 90's-2000's

The Chad May 10th, 2013 21:37

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Almost there!!! Just got 2 pro win today which makes 4 mags....the other two are G&P magpul.
Waiting on my C8FTHB lower from IE and a vltor stock for the L119A1...any other suggestions?

I desperately need a hop rubber and two double burnsed receiver endplates.

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The Chad May 10th, 2013 22:58

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Creoden May 13th, 2013 21:31

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1793958)
I desperately need a hop rubber and two double burnsed receiver endplates.

This ebay seller has some nice items, I've purchased a few parts for my build off him
http://stores.ebay.ca/Supreme-Firearm-Market including a double brunsed loop slingplate Here


Also, lookin good!

The Chad May 23rd, 2013 19:50

Issues with the engraving company.....major delay in completing the fthb :@
Resolution pending....

carllehot August 8th, 2013 01:04

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1773448)
Painted furniture, added M3X and PAQ-4C

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I know it's an older post, but what kind of paint you use for your green parts (handguard, grip, stock) ?

The Chad August 8th, 2013 12:53

OD krylon.

The Chad September 16th, 2013 19:32

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Couldn't wait to post. FINALLY, after 4 months back and forth with the engraving company.......


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Gonna give it a coat of bbq paint and assemble....stay tuned

MaybeStopCalling September 17th, 2013 00:17

Hey! That's my serial number! :D

The Chad September 17th, 2013 10:57

LOL no way! I didn't ask for a specific one, that's the one offered on the sheet he sent me months ago.

MaybeStopCalling September 17th, 2013 23:32

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Originally Posted by The Chad (Post 1834122)
LOL no way! I didn't ask for a specific one, that's the one offered on the sheet he sent me months ago.

Haha, probably was a copy of my sheet then. I also had an FTHB. :)

The Chad October 26th, 2013 18:25

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Need a burnsed loop for the C8 and Imod stock for the L119A1

Comments? Suggestions?

The Chad October 26th, 2013 18:26

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MaybeStopCalling October 26th, 2013 23:00

You can grab the Burnsed loop from Brownells, super fast and the loop is solid. Only glaring thing is the M3X is green and the A2 grip isn't green on the C8A3, else it's looking pretty awesome!

PS: Why is the barrel silverish?

The Chad October 27th, 2013 14:51

I'm painting the barrels and grip soon. I may leave the FTHB barrel the way it is though because it looks different in person.

Edit.couldn't find a double burnsed loop that looks right on brownells.

The Chad November 8th, 2013 17:28

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I need this but not dd, and a bit thinner. Steel preferably.

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