Ontario-Quebec WWII game planning Thread
 

This thread is to facilitate the planning of a combined Ontario - Quebec WWII game to be held in the Ottawa Region

Projected date for this event is set to be FALL OF 2013

Location to be at a private 100 acre field located south end of Highway 416

It may be helpful if one of our Quebec members, wrote up a translation or paraphrase of these posts in French which I could then post in the main thread here.

General Information check here

FRENCH Below

Ce "Thread" servira Ã* faciliter la planification d'une partie 2ième guerre modiale dans la région d'Ottawa pour les joueurs du Québec et de l'Ontario.

Les dates prévues sont septembre 2012 ou printemps 2013.

L'événement aura lieu sur un terrain privé de 100 acres situé au sud de l'autoroute 417.

Pour plus d'informations, visitez:
http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/



Organizational Group


current organizational group: room for 1 more

1.Brian McIlmoyle
2.5kull - Quebec Liaison
3.Leecas - ALLIED FORCES Liaison
4. VACANT - AXIS FORCES Liaison


OPERATION WOODSMAN WEBSITE

As the Premier inter provincial WWII event, this event is for active WWII players who are already equipped. If you want to come , you have a little under a year to get ready, Contact you local WWII players for mentoring or for borrowing Kit.

This Event will be a "Level 1 event"

Level 1 - WWII Impression and weapon required. Complete kit authenticity is not enforced. Unit integrity is required; i.e. squads or larger must be of same historical unit affiliation. Individuals from other services or nationalities may be attached to these core squads

Modern gear and equipment is not permitted you are expected to have a complete impression 80% complete ( full marching order not required, but you should have proper Assault order )

the following is a list of "modern" firearms that will be permitted to be used

as a general guideline.. if it has rails on it it's not allowed

M14 variant

AK47 -variant
AK 74 -variant
SVD -varient


Any simple stock, "hunting style" bolt action rifle with iron sights ( no telescopic sights permitted )

Pistols - any 1911, Browning High power, Luger, PPK, modern "plastic pistols" such as GLOCKs not permitted

( more may be added to this list )


AMMO RULES

MAX FPS 400 with .20

ALL MAGAZINES loaded to REALCAP

( some WWII guns only have highcap magazines.. if this is the case the magazine may NOT be wound while in the gun. the magazine must be removed from the gun to be wound)

ALL Riflemen will carry a Maximum of 200 rounds
All Submachinegun users will carry a maximum of 200 rounds

All support gunners may carry a maximum of 1000 rounds.

Grenades - non pyrotechnic only ( unless pyrotechnic grenades are approved by the field owner )

RELOADING - no loose ammo may be carried in the field unless it is part of your 200 / 1000 round loadout
If you carry loose ammo no loader may be used, you must reload by hand.

Reloading in a rear area or base is permitted, loaders may be used in base

I love this idea! You can count me in as an organizer/player.

Take care, 5kull

OOoooouu!

Yeehaa.

I suggest anyone who needs/can carpool up there post once the date is decided.

Gonna be fun, going back to the homeland province to shoot it up !

Bring your E-tool

http://www.google.ca/url?source=imgl...LvGL9nN3OE__AA

Ce "Thread" servira Ã* faciliter la planification d'une partie 2ième guerre modiale dans la région d'Ottawa pour les joueurs du Québec et de l'Ontario.

Les dates prévues sont septembre 2012 ou printemps 2013.

L'événement aura lieu sur un terrain privé de 100 acres situé au sud de l'autoroute 417.

Pour plus d'informations, visitez:
http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/

he brian cont on my to help you love this

Will you allow a French Resistance force? FFI or otherwise?
A lot of players here are just waiting for an opportunity to go to a WW2 game in Ontario to do a "proper" impression of a french maquis group with Sterns and Berets all around.

Est-ce qu'une force de la Résistance Française sera permise? Que cela soit les FFI ou un autre?
Il y a plusieurs joueurs ici qui attendent pour une opportunité de participer Ã* une partie WW2 en Ontario afin de faire une impression «adéquate» d'une force du maquis français avec une multitude de Sterns et de bérets.

I did suggest that on ''the bridge to nowhere'' AAR

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=139527
Post 12...


Its nice that finally, peoples from both provinces unite to create something big for us WW2 enthusiasts :)

Oh and borealis; its called Sten :p ;)

If there was a way to camp at the site, we could probably muster a team from Atlantic Canada to participate as well :)

I'd be down for some camping as well :)

+1

Camping would be awesome. Great time to share stories and the like.
Especially for those of us with a really far drive.

bah Shakal, si c'est Ã* Ottawa, tu pourrais toujours venir dormir Ã* la maison Shakal :)
Sinon Excelente idée!

Camping would be a must seeing that most of us would be travelling a great distance.

Here it comes boys... do you hear? The whisper of the biggest WWII game to hit Canada.

Brian, let's go for next spring. For Two reasons... one, I'm not available in Sept. and two, doing it in spring will give us enough time to do this right and plenty of time for people to schedule this in.

+1 to Leecas to do this in spring

I'm the only partisan in Quebec right now, but I will also have a British commando kit too

I'll be talking to the landowner shortly about this..

Camping is better in the Fall than the spring... his pond overflows the campground in the spring... but this is really dependant on weather.. it's dry as a bone right now..

Camping though is presumed..

I have a mind to do it this way..

3 camps..

a "modern" camp, coolers and nylon tents

a "period" AXIS camp

A "period" Allies camp

People would come in Friday... set up.. we could do some Night actions for those so inclined ..

then main game Saturday Dawn to Dusk

Bon fire and highjinks to follow.

PUFO Sunday

+1 to spring. I'm sure there would be some West Can players that would fly out for this, myself included.

We just had a game on the 5th with approx. 25 attendees so its growing here as well.

**edit** its a quiet rumbling now Leecas!

It's getting louder and louder! :)

Period Axis campground would be super!

Gives more reason to use my zeltbahns

I have trade school this fall...but who said I wont next spring


Looks like we need to fix the officers tent ;-)



when ever I know it will be awsome and I will go...even if I have to book time off work

is it @ comando

I'm in; be it in September or next spring.

I want a Lee Enfield SMLE or Mk IV otherwise I am not playing.

Spring 2013 works for better for me.

The next 6 months are an write-off for me in regards to airsoft; new baby in the house.

I'll need a year to decide which impression I'll wear anyway.

Check with EHobby....I hope you got $1500 saved up.

++1 for the Spring..I know we could get a group from Nova Scotia and New Brunswick to show up, especially if there is camping. Heck, it could be the Germans will outnumber the Allies.

We're used to that. No problem.

+1 on spring 2013, too many commitments this year, but it's sounding very, very promising so far.

nope.. Secluded Farm, 2 of my students have adjoining Farms in the area ..

We do an annual Martial Arts Retreat there..

Spring 2013 it is.. Think Late April

Lots of time, Countdown.. 11.5 months

I'll definitely throw in with the Alberta guys and come out.

I'd be in for joining the other Alberta guys for this!

You WERE the only partisan in Quebec. ;)
I have a Maquis and a generic partisan/FFI impression with a lot of period clothes. Thanks grampa.
I'll take some photos and post them in the WW2 section.

+1 for spring 2013 and I'm in for the camping with my u.s. tent.

next spring sound good.

For a Game in Quebec. I have a great field called Ste-Marguerite.
Possibillity for camping. Great Battlefield !!!!
(sorry for my poor english)

Hey.. that's great.. but the point here is a game in the middle so more people can come.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7116/031bl.jpg

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(the picture view of field underconstruction last year)


So with this field . Its possible to camp all the week end !!!
2 days of WWII ... sound good.

Dude.... promote your field somewhere else.. you are cluttering up this thread uselessly

I would be in for an Ottawa game as soon as possible, spring 2013 seems quite far, but I guess organisation can be complicated.

Then host one, get the WWII crowd growing up there!

I like play WWII game. I have possibillity to have a great field for make a big WWII airsoft event on this battlefield.


I dont understand your reaction ... ??

Il veut que la discussion ici servira seulement au jeu entre Ontario et Quebec avec l'intention d'établier quelque chose également loin de Toronto comme de la ville de Québec. Alors Ottawa est en discussion; il ne veut pas discuter un terrain proche de la ville de Québec pour ca.
En plus, il pense que tu veux faire de la publicité poiur ton terrain. Il n'a pas compris que tu voulait seulement le presenter commer une autre option.


The terrain was only being presented as another option not as an advertisement. Didn't seem that the selection of the terrain was already a done deal.

+ 1

Je voyais avec mon field la possibilliter d inviter les gens de Halifax.
Quebec aurais été un center point pour faire un événement unique de WWII en 2013.

ya, i might be up for that =) making a road trip with the GF =)

Location is posted in the first post, the point is to select a location that is central to both Ontario and Quebec player base,

A game in central Quebec may attract some more players from the East, but not from Ontario,

Ottawa area fits the bill,

I am thinking people will go for a 6 hour drive to get there,

This catchment would comprise the most concentrated population centers of each province.

I,m certain the field is excellent... It just does not meet the criteria.

Wow... the whisper is growing into a shout!

Where are we at now..

Spring 2013 -- likely Late April

Location - Ottawa area

Participants- as many as we can get.

What we need..

We should put together a group of 3 or 4 persons to serve as Organizers, Due to French Language participants we should have at least one in the group from Quebec .. better if it was 2

These same people will serve as ON THE FIELD game control

Once the group is established , we can start to discuss Scenario ideas, and start the flesh out the event.. we have LESS THAN 1 YEAR .. which really is not that much time.

but it is enough to really promote and push this game to be something grand.


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Ce que nous savons jusqu'Ã* maintenant.

Le printemps 2013 -- probablement fin avril

Lieu - région d'Ottawa

Participants - autant que nous pourrons en avoir.

Ce dont nous avons besoin...

Nous devrions rassembler un groupe de 3 ou 4 personnes pour servir d'organisateurs; et dû aux participants de langue française qui vont sûrement participer Ã* l'événement, au moins une de ces personnes devrait être du Québec. L'idéal serait 2 personnes dans le groupe venant du Québec.

Ces mêmes personnes serviront d'arbitres/administrateurs SUR LE TERRAIN.

Une fois que le groupe sera établi, nous pourrons commencer Ã* discuter des idées de scénario, et commencer Ã* structurer l'activité... Nous avons moins d'une année... ce qui est très peu de temps.

Mais c'est suffisant pour réellement promouvoir et élever cette partie Ã* un niveau épique.

.

Due to French Language participants we should have at least one in the group from Quebec .. better if it was 2

I'm bilingual and I organize WW2 events, so I volunteer if you need someone.

Right! you're in!

current organizational group

1.Brian McIlmoyle
2.5kull
3.Leecas
4.

There's likely a group that will make the trek out from Alberta - I can't volunteer to be on the organizing committee, but I can offer to be the go-between/contact person for those on our boards who are not here.

I think it's a good idea to have regional contacts..

organize your contingent regionally... then we can reduce the number of broken telephone moments


This game will be managed through OPS-Center once it goes live in a couple of weeks

I'd like to be part of the group.

Good,


Ideally I'd Like to see an

ALLIED - Liaison

AXIS -Liaison

the roles can be double duty with other organizational roles

Lee , can I tag you for the official ALLIED -Liaison?

Yup

Any idea on a theme as of yet?

Ami's = Getting their butts kicked by the Germans.

Germans = Enjoying nice sch-ka-kola with a few brews, kicking the Ami's butts! :D
With a side order of digging in once and awhile, not getting blown up by Arty fire.

Maybe write a letter back home to the wifie if the battle is not too intense.

The usual!

Battle of the Bulge?

We need snow, sub-zero temps and a battery of 88's for that one.

What's the field like? Could help choosing a theme?
Don't have to be a 101e operation...

A regular US GI bdu and boots don't cost that much.

A jump into Italy? I dont think that has ever been done.

Salerno?

Do these mainstream themes matter?

Personally I've never been too keen on naming airsoft games after such large scale operations, which involve divisions.



What about just saying the battle is taking place between, say American, British troops and a KG of various scattered German elements in the vicinity of Falaise or some other French or Dutch or Belgian etc. town, where the probability of British and American troops meeting is higher.

Planning and naming a platoon-on-platoon event (which is the approximate size of either side, I anticipate to partake), based on field conditions.

The event could be an attempt by German forces for a tactical withdrawal through a 'gap' or perhaps a vehicle recovery by whichever side?


Just brainstorming after a few beers :)

Myself i don't really care as long as i get to shot Natzies ;)

Beer's talking here to :D

And just look at your quote!
Pff, would be "advancing" in the "wrong" direction, that is all! :D

I do agree though. To name/theme it after a battle, puts some limitations on what we are doing.

We could have a mix of everything, one big stew-battle. Spice it up a bit.

if you what to just say its like D-Day + 27 something like that

Just a Idea here...


Allies are pushing into France.

After a joint OSS SAS operation, the Allies learn that the Germans are getting ready to unleash a new secret weapon. A long range bomber capable of hitting the North American East cost.


A quick look a unit locations they determine that the US 101st AB and British 6th AB will be able to react to this new threat.


The 101st and 6th slowly get pulled off the line being replaced by the 29th ID and the 3rd AD. After a winding 12 hour ride in the back of 6x6s, they are ready to start pushing toward this hidden AF and factory located in Southern France.

Meanwhile----


The 2nd SS that was just called up too join the fighting in Normandy, run into the 101st and 6th.

Well fighting the Germans discover that the Allies have a Nerve Agent, witch they are planing to use on Berlin, when the capture the AF and steal a plane.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

All out battle as the Allies try to push for the AF and the Germans try to get to the Stock Pile of Nerve Gas the Allies have dropped to take up arms




What about that?

What about something along the lines of the Bruneval Raid, Operation Biting. A German radar installation in Bruneval, France that occurred between 27–28 February 1942. An airborne assault, followed by sea-borne evacuation would be the ideal way to surprise the garrison of the installation and seize the technology intact, as well as minimise casualties inflicted on the raiding force.

This Game would start durning the night, say about about 2300 or so, and continue into the daylight hours.

The Germans, just occupy a small static garrison at a Vital Point, with some form of Tech, or a PW Snatch, (as some silly Rupert got put in the bag, and he has vital sensitive knowledge). They main German Garrison is some distance away, and not activated until the balloon goes up.

The Allies are Jumped in to the LZ/DZ. They re-organize at the RV, and push off to perform the Raid. They must neutralize the defenders of the VP, secure the area, and capture the documents and/or tech. Take pictures of it as well. They then must exfiltrate the objective to a predetermined location to meet up with their extraction method, be it trucks, landing craft, or to a Maquis/Resistance safe area.

The Germans have left 5 to 6 men in an organized defence at the VP. As the War in Europe as not started yet. They have not considered that an Allied Raiding Party would strike this area. So they have yet to impliment full defence procedures and positions. They have left this section element at the VP, and on a frequent basis a 2 man sentry team checks in with them.

The Main Garrison, is quartered in several houses, some distance away. They also maintain a small nightly picket, and do not regularly become active at night. They must maintain for the purposes of the game only a 2 man Mobile Sentry between them and the VP, a 2 man picket at their Housing, and another 2 man Sentry at a nearby crossroads. They may not be deployed in defence of the VP until the Sentries are missing and out of contact for longer than 20 minutes. They have been alerted by the VP via Field Phone that they are under attack. OR They have noticed the sounds of active battle, or attacked themselves.

The Germans are aware that there is a Maquis/Resistance presence in the area, but have been unable to establish their numbers, location or taskings. For this this have established some roadblock sentries by day and night. All Identity cards are checked, anyone carrying weapons are arrested on sight.

The Maquis/Resistance are active in the area, but do not use the roads at night, when carrying arms due to the martial law and curfews imposed. They have been alerted that they may need to assist "Henry, the man with Purple Shoes", if he comes calling. They are in radio contact with SOE, and have not been told, what exactly that means. Lately due to increased German patrolling by day, and some radio DF vans in the area, they have been laying low. For the past several months, they have been restricted by the Germans in getting near the VP, as to recce it. Mainly due to their own curiosity, and not on the direction of SOE. It is possible that SOE, may after they have been informed of the sucessful capture and on going exfiltration, pass a coded phrase to the Maquis, to put in an attack on the German Garrison. They know that if they hear "The cupboard is empty" passed over the radio, that is a message to put in an attack. Otherwise, they will stay passive unless actively attacked by the German Forces.

What is the layout of the field like? Are there any buildings available to us such as a barn?

For scenario ideas how about something closer to op varsity? Anyone who wants to come in for night fighting on the first night could infiltrate and find the partisans to destroy an early objective, or mark an LZ for paras to come in to try and capture something/someone important. All the while the Germans would have to stay in their base with rolling patrols and such until the allies are found, with regular army units trying to break their lines to meet up with the paras.

The advantage here is that anyone who arrives earlier can partake in initial fighting, and late arrivals are reinforcements. Alternately anyone who doesn't want to night fight (if such a person exists) can skip it to be fresh for the next day. It would also allow for later arrivals to rotate out others for a rest period with the other paras/Germans if they desire.

it is a woodland field with adjoining fields

it already has some bunkers built up ..

Keep the Scenario Ideas coming

the field is woodland with some clearings , with adjoining fields

I expect a platoon level engagement, so this could be a small part of many battles that raged in Europe after Op Overlord.

Germans have fallen back and occupied a woods next to open farmland.

They are establishing a defensive position to conduct a holding action against the advancing allies, they have been ordered to hold at all costs.

Allied units are advancing to contact to establish the front in order to facilitate an encirclement of the German forces.

Resistance forces of unknown strength and disposition are known to be using the woods as a base of operations.

Timeline

Friday night.. German forces have occupied the woods and have begun working on fortifications. .. Setting out OPs and roving patrols They are hunting for the resistance.

Allied advanced parties are tasked to conduct probing actions to establish the location of the German Defenses.


Saturday: Based on the information from the night patrols Allied forces stage a deliberate attack on the German position to clear them from the woods.

If the Germans Hold... Allied forces will consolidate and attempt to break through elsewhere

If the Germans are pushed back they will consolidate and Counter attack to retake the positions.

This would be the foundation... We could add many other elements .. such as the woods concealing a V2 launch-site.. or a Transmitter..

The 101st AB and the 6th AB are the lead advance of Patton’s 3rd Army.


After a quick Pincer move, the Germans cut off and surround the forward elements of the push.


The 101st sends out patrols to contact the 6th, to find them and set up a counter attack

Update
 

Field confirmation is locking down, I have access to 75 acres of woodland, and I'm confirming on another 50 acres fields/ woodland adjoining.

The planning group is going to start putting their heads together and coming up with a Theme, and begin roughing out the Scenarios.

Would cold burning smoke or other pyro be allowed? Might Thunder B grenades could be used as static charges for demolition purposes only to be used by certain personnel?

depends on the field conditions on game day

I'll be nailing down these issues over the next couple of months with the land owner.

I think this game is a great idea and I suggest we make this an annual event.

Regarding the theme. I think it all depends on who will come to the game and who and what toys they will bring with them.

I think it's a great opportunity to make this a road trip with camping and bring along friends and girlfriend who want to try WW2 Airsoft or act as NPC's.

I can certainly load the van with players that want to try WW2 airsoft, either by loaning my extra kit or having them play resistance fighters.

The theme itself is just an excuse to set the scenario. Like someone said, we will probably have 20-40 people, a little bit more if it's a big success. My last game I had 20 people but I don't think they will all come to ottawa unless it's a really special game.

I'm shooting for a platoon level event.

30 ALLIED

30 AXIS

and some resistance

maybe total participation 80 people

That's a good number. Enough to be impressive but not to big.

How are the restrictions such as kit and weapons going to be handled? What I mean is am I going to get hosed down by some guy with a burlap wrapped M4 on full auto? Just saying is there going to be more of an effort put in to having period kit and weapons to attend?

Not trying to be picky but if I were to come from Ab it would be dissapointing to see running shoe commandos coming at me with modern weapons blazing away against my b/a rifle lol.

http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenactors.com/rules.html

http://www.ontarioairsoftwwiireenact...ent_level.html

this is being billed as a level I event, Impression required.

weapons rules as seen at the link above

Excellent, thanks.

Hi Brian, I would like to see this as a Level I event with a 80 to 100%. If you're at 60% then contact us because we have enough guys to help get you to 80% or better. I agree that I don't want to make a long trek and see half ass attempt... wearing grey or black does not make you a German. Wearing post WWII OD does not make you a GI dogface.

I think this needs to be stepped up and we will see this becoming an annual event. And then we can ask for 95 to 100% in impressions and gear.

I think even the weapon rule needs to be restricted even further. For this one it doesn't have to be 100% but we should establish a list of Modern weapons that will only be allowed with no exceptions.

I think we can easily get 30 guys on each side that have 80 to 100% impressions attending this event. This event isn't for the guys that want to try out WWII airsoft... Level III and Level II events are for them. This event is for the guys that have put a lot of effort in putting an impression together and know that they want to do WWII airsoft. And are willing to travel across the Province or across the Country to be around other guys with the same mind set.

you got it. If im gona think about making a trek out, im gona hope/expect its gona be a good game, with people in complete kit.

It would be useful to create a thread on this board in regards the minimal kit expectations for this event.

A simple 60% US GI Infantry 10 foot impression is easy to assemble.

M1 Helmet, HBTs with or without the M41 jacket, web pistol belt, suspenders isn't expensive when you have a year to acquire the goods.

If some post wwii weapons are allowed (e.g faux wood M14 for axis or allied) you can always tie a meat can pouch on the pistol belt to carry the magazines.

I agree with Leecas, if you have a 90%+ complete kit why would you want to take a 6+ hour drive (or fly) to take part in a wwii event that would have players wearing Flecktarn, DPM, Woodland, 'Nam ODs etc.

I agree... and there is lots of time to get sorted out if you are gust getting in now..

LEVEL 1 it is

period style weapon - Required
Period clothing and loadout required - Impression must be solid at 10 feet

+1:cool:

+1 British Commando Kit is almost completed ;)

I don't think we want this to be a try it out game..

this will be a "pay off for your commitment game"

we will be looking for a high standard of impressions .. even from the people who choose to run a resistance fighter impression.

Showing up in your jeans and sneakers won't cut it

I really like the way this thread is going :)

Can't wait for this game.

So glad I have my FSSF impression done - only thing I don't wear is the boots, because damn it, it's nearly impossible to find ones that fit women's feet! :P

I like the idea of strict dress/gun code for milsims. The way I see it the gun is part of the uniform so there's no other way. I doubt I'll take part this season as it'll entail buying a whole new kit+gun but I will contribute to the thread anyway

Uniform Ideas. Blame McCrea for kick-starting the idea on my head. :p
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9/IMAG0091.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9/IMAG0087.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9/IMAG0084.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...9/IMAG0083.jpg

Those were all the colored photos I had.

edit: my hand was shaky so they came out a little out of focus with the phone camera. If people want better photos I'll upload some later with my digital camera instead.

+1

If you can't pull off a believable resistance look, might as well stay home with the kiddies:) I organize entry level games at home so that we can recruit players, this is not a game to introduce players to the hobby but to bring in more advanced players.

I agree with the person who suggested to make a list of minimum items to do an impression for a particular unit so that the rules are clear to everyone. It would also be interesting to enroll people into units. We are going to have a ton of 101st band of brothers, might as well group them into a unit:) Creating units will give a target to strive for and will give some cohesion to our game.

This brings me to the dark side of this hobby. I play WW2 Airsoft because I enjoy it, I enjoy my gear and your gear but mostly I enjoy the people:) I don't enjoy the guy's who think they are the "gear police"!

Not pointing at anyone here but I know these guy's exist because I see them at other people games all the time. I don't enjoy the Cliff Clavens of Airsoft who think they can have a negative attitude because they have this or that or ATF instead of China made etc. I don't enjoy the debates over what button was on uniforms from what date etc. If you like that kind of thing and you have a ton of knowledge, you have my respect, just don't use your knowledge as an ego booster;)

This should be a special event for people who have made an effort to get the minimum equipment for their unit and more if they can afford it. It should be an event for people who enjoy the game.

I hope my comments are taken positively, I'm not attacking anyone, just trying to set the tone for a nice day of playing WW2 Airsoft with a bunch of great players:)

Take care, 5kull

the tone of your post is good, 5kull. Anyone taking offense is likely to be the person you're referring to, and that's just them getting mad at themselves, projecting it on to you. :p

No 5kull no peace; know 5kull know peace

this event is NOT LIVING HISTORY ... I don't give a rats ass if all your gear is Chinese replica.. as long as it looks the part from 10 feet out.

I think that units should be split up as follows


ALLIED

US -

British/ Canadian


AXIS -

Heer

Waffen SS


IRREGULARS

Partisans
Resistance

Units will be built from these divisions .. Command elements will be assigned

Totally agree... No stitch Nazis allowed. That's why I stated 80 - 100% accurate impressions... and accurate means it looks the part... original, made in China or in the US, don't give a crap as long as it looks the part. Even if it's the basics... it's still makes it 100%. If you have a 101st impression and you have everything but the jump boots and you are wearing Black boots instead I say you are good to go.

I think if guys have any doubts about their kits being up to snuff then I would suggest you submit pictures of your impression and we can make suggestions or say it's perfectly fine.

As all events should be... fun and safety is the theme of the day.

This is actually a pretty basic impression.

Tunic, Pants , belt, hat.. holster and Mapcase..

but it looks pretty good.. In my opinion

http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/...i/Muskoka7.jpg

I encourage everyone to start looking on the internet for militarily shows such as this one:

http://www.torontomilitaryshow.com/

You never know what you will pick up at these shows. Several years ago I picked up an original bdu for ~$40 that fit like a glove.

Also don't feel as though this is a allied special forces only event. A chap with a panzerfaust might have disabled your tank and killed the rest of the crew leaving you with nothing but your Thompson to wander the countryside after bailing out. Perhaps your dispatcher's motorcycle crapped out leaving your Sten as your only companion.

My point is to be creative, and do some research. You might be surprised what peaks interest with a little reading.

That's the key thing here, be creative!

You don't need everything including the kitchen sink, just look at Brians impression, smack dab on.
Simple, relatively cheap-ish and most important - it's great.

If you require somethings, ask around.. chances are somebody just might have spare to lend out or point you in the right direction for a cheap alternative that works.

Basic Heer and US Infantry and to a lesser extent, British Infantry wwii airsoft uniforms are fairly easy to acquire.

Overseas repro is quite affordable nowadays. You don't have to spend a fortune to follow the event "dress code".

Minty Post war M1 helmets can be had for $40.

As mentioned previously, special / elite force uniforms don't have to be the norm.

Anything period correct at the ankles or below (e.g. gaiters, boots) seems unnecessary.

Basic Heer and US Infantry and to a lesser extent, British Infantry wwii airsoft uniforms are fairly easy to acquire.

Overseas repro is quite affordable nowadays. You don't have to spend a fortune to follow the event "dress code".

Minty Post war M1 helmets can be had for $40. British MKII, III, IV helmets always seem to be available at curio shops, but the liners don't seem to pass the test of time.

As mentioned previously, special / elite force uniforms don't have to be the norm.

Anything period correct at the ankles or below (e.g. gaiters, boots) seems unnecessary.

Spearhead Militaria ebay store sells affordable P37, P40 and CDN battle dress at an ok price. P37 webbing either surplus, original or repro is still easy to find and won't break the bank.

Camouflage uniforms such as smocks are a bit pricey and not necessary IMHO. Players seem to fancy that stuff possibly because that is the modern idea of what a soldier looks like. Khaki in its many varieties and Field Gray in its many varieties are more than sufficient.


But don't dare show up in Hong Kong Harry Waffen SS M43 HBTs.....that stuff is farb. / jk.

Yes,a list of minimal kit requirements would be very helpful. I don't even know what percent of authenticity(or look the part) my kit is at.