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Padkiller December 1st, 2011 08:17

WE to make aegs?!
 
Hey people!

So, I'm "liking" Airsoft GI on facebook, and apparently, according to airsoft GI, WE tech would produce AEGs soon. Now, I don't know what you guys think, but that would go against James Chan's words, that WE would stick to GBB guns!

Karnage December 1st, 2011 08:28

there is a hint of truth to that statement

AngelusNex December 1st, 2011 09:12

I like their GBBRs, Kinda like their gbbs as budget guns but I don't think I like the idea of a WE AEG unless somebody else makes the internals.

TaroBear December 1st, 2011 09:19

There's no reason to assume they'll be good or bad. They (apparently) make gas rifles you guys like, but they also make sorry excuses for sidearms. Could go either way.

Scouser December 1st, 2011 10:47

something to keep an eye on at least, could turn out interesting.

TPM001 December 1st, 2011 14:32

I think James made a commitment to the blowback action.... not necessarily Gas Blow back (maybe I'm wrong here?).

Maybe they've found a way to make EBB not so laughable?

SF_Chewy December 1st, 2011 14:58

My vote is for EBB

phloudernow December 1st, 2011 15:29

i still wont count on them, however what I'm Looking forward for is the Real Sword Electromagnetic blowback AEG m4/m16

unless WE can figure out a way to live up to the hype and compete against RS i duno

TPM001 December 1st, 2011 16:36

Well, I, for one, actually appreciate having more choices so I encourage WE to continue to stretch their boundaries.

From what I've been following (and from a certain experience perspective), WE as an airsoft manufacturer today is leaps and bounds better than they were just a few years ago. So I can only imagine where they will be a couple years from today.

They are a very fast and progressive company with a lot of potential to make exciting things happen. They seem to have the capital base, the economies of scale and most importantly, the will to branch out and experiment.

We would be damned lucky if all companies were as progressive. Unfortunately, most are not.

Brian McIlmoyle December 1st, 2011 16:46

I expect that WE has agreed to market another makers products in exchange for licensing agreements for the use of Trademarks that the AEG maker has authorization to use.

FNP90

HK MP5

come to mind

Same as Car companies will often rebadge a competitor's product and sell it in exchange for technology sharing, and manufacturing inefficiency.

Basic-Wedge December 1st, 2011 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPM001 (Post 1569293)
Maybe they've found a way to make EBB not so laughable?

You're not the first to make a comment like that, yet I'm amazed how many times, in the middle of a battle, someone will turn to me and remark about how much they like the sound of my Aries G36 EBB. If have to use an AEG, an EBB AEG is the gun for me (though I always prefer GBBRs).

Padkiller December 1st, 2011 21:47

Interesting thoughts guys! I don't disagree with the EBB concept,but I know some EBBs have the tendency to break!

Coming from WE Tech, the externals will be awesome, but internally, I don't know!!! I guess the mystery will stay until those aegs will be released!

TaroBear December 1st, 2011 21:52

I think I like the idea of EBBs a lot. While I love the kick that pistols provide, I find filling gas a pain in the ass. Nothing sucks more than having a clear shot on someone, then squeezing the trigger to hear a little fizzing noise and realize that your mag is out of gas. If electric recoil could ever be as loud/kick as hard as gas, I'd switch over for sure.

For now, I consider EBBs are novelty that got sidelined by GBBRs. I've also heard many complaints regarding the weak parts that power the recoil system in them. I think it's also expensive to fix/adopt because it hasn't really caught on.

Coresair December 5th, 2011 09:36

This morning, Redwolf leaked pictures of gearboxes with WE's logo stamped on them. Seems legit.

kullwarrior December 5th, 2011 09:50

It's a sewing machine, not ebb... Power star already leak the video

Pinard December 5th, 2011 10:27

link pls ?

Boyso December 5th, 2011 10:46

M4H00878 - YouTube

phloudernow December 5th, 2011 11:19

IMO, we aegs gona be disappointing

Brian McIlmoyle December 5th, 2011 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloudernow (Post 1570727)
IMO, we aegs gona be disappointing

Every AEG is disappointing..

Pinard December 5th, 2011 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyso (Post 1570713)

thanks... looks just like any other m4 AEG to me..

Drake December 5th, 2011 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boyso (Post 1570713)

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloudernow (Post 1570727)
IMO, we aegs gona be disappointing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1570729)
Every AEG is disappointing..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinard (Post 1570734)
thanks... looks just like any other m4 AEG to me..

QFT.

Just another vanilla AEG that fails to bring anything new to the table.

WE should focus on improving/refining their GBBRs since they actually have a chance at getting a solid foothold in that niche, if they could only address issues like easily broken parts etc.

Forever_kaos December 5th, 2011 11:49

Need WW2 GBBR's.

Boyso December 5th, 2011 11:49

Meh to me, they just want more money.

Not much money into R&D and more people buying AEGs than GBBR is probably going to give them a fair share of money.

I wish they used that time and money to release their Thompson though.

Brian McIlmoyle December 5th, 2011 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinard (Post 1570734)
thanks... looks just like any other m4 AEG to me..

what did you expect?

WE externals are quite good.. and they make robust guns..

Frankly this is very likely an alliance with an established AEG producer . We will produce bodies .. and someone else will produce mechboxes rebranded to WE

WE has pretty much cornered the market on GBBRs , I could see why an AEG maker would want to plop their Mechboxes into a We branded product, just from a branding standpoint.

this is MARKETING gentlemen .. not technical innovation

Pinard December 5th, 2011 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1570743)
what did you expect?

WE externals are quite good.. and they make robust guns..

Frankly this is very likely an alliance with an established AEG producer . We will produce bodies .. and someone else will produce mechboxes rebranded to WE

WE has pretty much cornered the market on GBBRs , I could see why an AEG maker would want to plop their Mechboxes into a We branded product, just from a branding standpoint.

this is MARKETING gentlemen .. not technical innovation

Oh I wasn't expecting anything! I really don't care about them making aegs lol, it's just that people are complaining about it. Why would it be good, why would it be bad? People are already complaining but nobody knows what brand will make the internals lol.

Drake December 5th, 2011 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever_kaos (Post 1570742)
Need WW2 GBBR's.

I'm actually a bit perplexed by WE's choice for lineups, specially considering they have all the parts already in production to put out many more (and better) variants than they currently do.

The PMC AK is a good example: as the only offering for a fullsize AK it's not the best choice and they obviously have the side folder receiver for the AKSU; offering an AKS-74/M alongside the PMC seemed like a no-brainer that would have probably gotten way more AK enthusiasts excited about WE AKs.

Thus far, that hasn't happened.

Similarly, that PMC AK comes with a Crane -style stock so you'd think they'd put out an NSW-kosher CQB-R and/or M4 (swap out the carry handle for an LMT rear sight or something to keep it interesting). But nope. 11.5" barrel from the XM177 could make a Colt M933. Not on the menu either.

Sure it's just mix and matching parts to create a plethora of variants, but that's pretty much standard fare by now from all other manufacturers and it saves having to buy a gun only to swap out 50% of the parts for aftermarket stuff (which strangely is still lacking for WE GBBRs -- you'd think their explosion in popularity would have more than just RA-Tech and TSC making a limited number of parts. Good thing the WE accept so many AEG and RS parts/accessories.)

Padkiller December 5th, 2011 14:45

Honestly, I really don'tt know what to expect form WE, giving it's their first AEG! It took a lot of time for companies like king arms and G&P to get known and good in the AEG market!

IMO, they should have stayed with the GBBR market, they're know there and the should perfect their own guns before going into, frankly, a market the don't even know and, from James Chan's own words, they chose to ignore!!!

T@NK December 11th, 2011 20:19

if its just another version 2 gear box toy, NO THX.

sushicake December 11th, 2011 21:37

wow another M4... Hurry Real Sword release yours so you can put this garbage to shame!!!

Padkiller December 11th, 2011 22:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by T@NK (Post 1574008)
if its just another version 2 gear box toy, NO THX.

Yep, totally agree with that! Why would I buy yet another AEG M4! Unless it's different, why bother?!! If it is, then, IMO, they won't sell a lot and will go back to the GBB market!

My 2 cents!

mr_nuts31 December 12th, 2011 15:08

seeing WE making AEGs reminds me of VFC making GBBRs. They're both great companies and the products they specialize in are amazing, but crossing over to a field that is unknown with said company will cause some problems and a feeling that they should stic with what they know best. So unless WE is creating an AEG that hasn't been done before, it'll be a waste of time.

Padkiller December 12th, 2011 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_nuts31 (Post 1574320)
seeing WE making AEGs reminds me of VFC making GBBRs. They're both great companies and the products they specialize in are amazing, but crossing over to a field that is unknown with said company will cause some problems and a feeling that they should stic with what they know best. So unless WE is creating an AEG that hasn't been done before, it'll be a waste of time.

+1!

Why bother about yet another m4 when you could buy some other "better ones" that are easier to upgrade!!!

Padkiller April 11th, 2012 14:56

*Update*

Sorry for the necro, but, well, TOLD Y'ALL!

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38163

Mirodasc April 11th, 2012 17:54

So, all it does is release the spring tension when put to safe, so that the next show takes a little longer once the trigger is pulled..?
Sounds great to me.

Kos-Mos April 11th, 2012 19:13

Why would it take longer? If you gun is not broken, it should already be in the same spot when shooting SEMI. On Auto, 1/10 of a second won't make a difference.

talon April 11th, 2012 19:49

It's there to relieve tension on the spring when not in use. I'm not sure exactly what the purpose is for this, but if I recall correctly it is to alliviate some of the stress on the mechbox and therefore assist in increasing the lifespan of the gun. There are probably other uses, but that one sticks out most in my mind. I know that there are some mods out there to do this for other AEGs.

phloudernow April 11th, 2012 19:55

ugh ugly markings, meh i think for that price id still go for a KA m4

MaciekA April 11th, 2012 21:28

As ThunderCactus said in another thread, you can leave a spring fully compressed for more than half a year and only lose 4fps, so the spring release isn't that useful for the regular players.

For gun doctors it is rather nice though, because you can release the spring before going into the gun.

There's an evike review video on YouTube now and it seems to be a decently made AEG. They claim it is fully TM compatible, so WE is finally on my radar now.

Padkiller April 12th, 2012 09:51

Yep, I agree that these guns won't sell much, for that price, go king arms or G&P!

Oh, and the spring release, it allows you to remove stress on the gearbox and by that, opening the gearbox is easier!

Jimski April 12th, 2012 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padkiller (Post 1636521)
*Update*

Sorry for the necro, but, well, TOLD Y'ALL!

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=38163

another M4, yawn

Swattiger April 12th, 2012 10:33

WE is notorous for the use of low grade pot metal which make their products stop functioning normally after only brief use. The extra money + effort afterwards has become a nightmare for many GBB and pistol airsofters.

So no thanks.

Aper April 12th, 2012 10:41

Holy shit ! M4A1 ? This is what I call revolution in airsoft people !

IMO, they should improve their GBBR parts and stick to that category. As for what Sawttiger said, it's true. On the first day that I had my WE M4, I tried to knock the roll pin of the trigger guard out of it's hole. Guess what ... without any outstanding use of force, managed to break off a piece of the lower receiver where the roll pin goes in.

I was not impressed with WE's low grade metal they used ...

Padkiller April 12th, 2012 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aper (Post 1636985)
Holy shit ! M4A1 ? This is what I call revolution in airsoft people !

IMO, they should improve their GBBR parts and stick to that category. As for what Sawttiger said, it's true. On the first day that I had my WE M4, I tried to knock the roll pin of the trigger guard out of it's hole. Guess what ... without any outstanding use of force, managed to break off a piece of the lower receiver where the roll pin goes in.

I was not impressed with WE's low grade metal they used ...

Agreed!

ShelledPants April 12th, 2012 11:08

I'm under the supervision of 10 WE GBBRs, have owned one, and have seen used heavily for the past three years... The only thing I've seen break from regular use was an upper receiver: From transport to and from a game.

WE doesn't use the greatest materials, but as far as stock guns go, they are hard to break (externally) from regular use.

That being said, there are already other gun manufacturers in that price bracket with superior guns.

I am not a fan of the idea of the gun dropping the piston when I hit safe. This means if the gun was on the last tooth of the piston pull, it could fire a BB when it drops to safe, unless they've changed the way the tappet plate works.

EDIT: Wtf, "Navy Seal" trades? That's wetarded.

Crunchmeister April 12th, 2012 11:10

Quote:

WE-Tech is one of the world's leading Airsoft Gun manufacturers known for their precision, high quality...
Umm... since when? They make decent GBBRs that are great upgrade platforms for RA-Tech parts. Otherwise, I've yet to see anything "precision, high quality" coming out of WE.

On the plus side, 380~400 FPS means they can be legally imported into Canada without modification under the new CBSA regulations.

Curo April 12th, 2012 12:30

Personally, I like what I see, but not enough to make me buy this over an established AEG brand.

Jimski April 12th, 2012 14:13

I just want more M4s.
I can't understand why in airsoft they're manufacturing anything other than M4s.
I mean, who wants a gun that is not an M4 ?

TaroBear April 12th, 2012 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 1637096)
I just want more M4s.
I can't understand why in airsoft they're manufacturing anything other than M4s.
I mean, who wants a gun that is not an M4 ?

I'll pipe in as the guy who's usually complaining about M4s. :D Seriously, I had one once, and I didn't like it at all. I don't understand the appeal.

Brian McIlmoyle April 12th, 2012 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaroBear (Post 1637107)
I'll pipe in as the guy who's usually complaining about M4s. :D Seriously, I had one once, and I didn't like it at all. I don't understand the appeal.

because half the planet uses them?

TaroBear April 12th, 2012 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1637126)
because half the planet uses them?

By that logic, I should start listening to hip hop.

Coresair April 12th, 2012 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaroBear (Post 1637131)
By that logic, I should start listening to hip hop.

country/western music sells way more than "hip-hop" in the states :D

Curo April 12th, 2012 15:16

I rather like them. To each their own. But I agree unless you got something cool or different (I.E realsword) you really shouldn't release one. And this spring feature combined with the fact it just be a upgrade it like hell (like their GBBRs) platform makes me iffy about buying one.

Brian McIlmoyle April 12th, 2012 15:19

The M4/M16 platform provides a effective mix of ergonomics, lightness and simplicity in operation..

it is simply a well designed and effective weapon

nothing has come along in 40 years to warrant replacing it... which speaks volumes.

Every company that present a contender to replace it.. ends up in effect cloning it..

if I was an airsoft manufacturer thinking about what model to produce first.. an M4 is a no brainer..

Sure there may be other guns that are more interesting.. but nothing has a wider appeal ( and Market) than a solid M4 platform

Curo April 12th, 2012 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1637138)

Sure there may be other guns that are more interesting.. but nothing has a wider appeal ( and Market) than a solid M4 platform

A bolded that because thats what I hope WE has done not give us a gun that needs a ton of upgrades OTB.

Eeyore April 12th, 2012 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobalt Caliber (Post 1637147)
A bolded that because thats what I hope WE has done not give us a gun that needs a ton of upgrades OTB.

WE very effectively balanced product quality and price. Take for example their gbbr line. In HK they cost half as much as WOC's and require about $100 of parts to make them bomb proof. That is a great value, I imagive WE doing exatly the same thing with their aeg line, in fact I hope they do. Also realize that the stresses from a gearbox are not the same as a gas system.

sundae_1021 April 25th, 2012 22:39

Here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m0t...eature=g-all-u

Splashx May 6th, 2012 22:44

I'm going to make a deep review of it within the next 2 weeks

Padkiller May 6th, 2012 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splashx (Post 1650014)
I'm going to make a deep review of it within the next 2 weeks

Thanks!

Looking forward to it!!!


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