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danteh April 15th, 2011 18:38

Is it a bad idea...
 
To keep bbs loaded in my mags when their not in use. I kindove figured having the spring bent for a long period of time would ruin it but I'd just like to make sure.

Specs April 15th, 2011 19:01

Doing so will weaken the springs in your mags, don't do it. Just empty them after every game.

Mitchell12 April 15th, 2011 19:05

Also, you don't need to shoot them. (this might be obvious but just making sure you know) You can just pull back on the little tab on the top of the mags and they all fly out. You can collect them back into a bag.

Specs April 15th, 2011 19:06

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Originally Posted by Mitchell12 (Post 1448518)
Also, you don't need to shoot them. (this might be obvious but just making sure you know) You can just pull back on the little tab on the top of the mags and they all fly out. You can collect them back into a bag.

Thats my secondary weapon.

Spawn28 April 15th, 2011 19:09

However it is ok to keep the mag loaded for short periods of time like overnight or 24 hrs but ya i wouldnt suggest keeping em in there for long periods of time..

LOL@ Specs......Secondary? i just yell grenade and whip a handfull of bb's at em, Works great in CQB too....(banghead)

Mitchell12 April 15th, 2011 19:12

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Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1448521)
Thats my secondary weapon.

LOL! Better than some springers!

Specs April 15th, 2011 19:16

You laugh until I kill you with it...

Mitchell12 April 15th, 2011 19:21

I think that'd be the equivalent of in "Shoot-Em-Up" when he fires the bullets from his fingers with the fireplace.

danteh April 15th, 2011 19:30

Okay thanks. This may be a stupid question aswell, but should I empty out the propane from my mags aswell?

Specs April 15th, 2011 19:35

Really good question, has been answered before many times but you should keep a little bit of gas in them. It keeps the valve closed preventing important shit from drying out at least that what everyone tells me. I don't usually leave gas in mine though, just make sure they are always well lubed. I have had my mags for 3 years and I have had no leaks.

Mitchell12 April 15th, 2011 19:35

It's actually a good idea to leave some in as it keeps the seals in place. I usually don't keep a full amount in but I don't think it'll hurt it.

tunabreath April 15th, 2011 19:47

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Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1448513)
Doing so will weaken the springs in your mags, don't do it. Just empty them after every game.

It doesn't really, not significantly anyways. I've left mags fully or partially loaded with BBs for months on end with no consequence. If the mag springs are actually compressed to the point of permanently yeilding with the amount of BBs you can put in there, well, that's a pretty poorly designed mag.

If anything, I'd still recommend unloading your mags just from a safety perspective. I think it's pretty much accepted that the act of loading and unloading your mags deteriorates the springs more than just storing them loaded.

As for gas, definitely keep at least a little gas in them to keep the seals properly formed. Every time I've left a mag without gas, it has ended up leaking. There shouldn't be any issue with leaving your mags fully gassed either, provided they're not going to be overheated or something. Because the gas in the mag is typically a liquid/vapour, the pressure in the mag is pretty similar no matter how full it is, at any given temperature. (somewhere around the vapour pressure for the gas)

Mitchell12 April 15th, 2011 20:11

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Originally Posted by tunabreath (Post 1448548)
It doesn't really, not significantly anyways. I've left mags fully or partially loaded with BBs for months on end with no consequence. If the mag springs are actually compressed to the point of permanently yeilding with the amount of BBs you can put in there, well, that's a pretty poorly designed mag.

If anything, I'd still recommend unloading your mags just from a safety perspective. I think it's pretty much accepted that the act of loading and unloading your mags deteriorates the springs more than just storing them loaded.

As for gas, definitely keep at least a little gas in them to keep the seals properly formed. Every time I've left a mag without gas, it has ended up leaking. There shouldn't be any issue with leaving your mags fully gassed either, provided they're not going to be overheated or something. Because the gas in the mag is typically a liquid/vapour, the pressure in the mag is pretty similar no matter how full it is, at any given temperature. (somewhere around the vapour pressure for the gas)

I completely Disagree(about AEG mags), At least with something like an MP5 mag where some of the mid caps have pretty steep curves in them and leaving them loaded can cause binding issues in my experience. In a lot of mags I've worked on it seems like they're isn't much of an issue if they are more than half empty. This is mostly with Mid Caps as opposed to Real Caps

danteh April 15th, 2011 20:53

Thanks alot guys

LegioXIII April 15th, 2011 21:10

Has anyone else ever noticed that a lot of inquiries starting with "Is it a bad idea..." usually is a bad idea? I'm not referring to this particular thread's topic, but life in general. Always found it kind of humourous, myself.

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Originally Posted by Specs (Post 1448541)
just make sure they are always well lubed.

Things are always better when they're well lubed :P

CDN_Stalker April 15th, 2011 21:39

Last time I played was November 2009, and after that game I left my mags loaded (that were still loaded). Be heading home next week for mail, maybe will give them a check and see if any spring weakening or not to prove/disprove this legend. ;)

tunabreath April 16th, 2011 00:59

@Mitchell
Yeah, my experience is pretty much AUG, STANAG, and gas pistol style (straight spring) mags. I can see how it could be a problem for smaller midcaps, but I'm still inclined to believe that the binding is probably an issue innate to the midcap itself rather than caused by leaving mag loaded and spring compressed.

@Stalker
For an even more conclusive look, pull the mag springs out and see if they've taken on any shape changes compared to an unloaded mag.

DarkAngel April 16th, 2011 03:53

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Originally Posted by tunabreath (Post 1448777)
@Stalker
For an even more conclusive look, pull the mag springs out and see if they've taken on any shape changes compared to an unloaded mag.

Everyone knows that Stalker's mag springs are in the shape of Bear Cavalry. They never wear out, they just keep charging foreward.

In any case, if he pulls on the bb retainer rod, it wont eject BB's. Itll eject home forged stalker knives from a hidden compartment in the mag. I heard he converted his pistol mags to shoot out machettes

Specs April 16th, 2011 08:39

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel (Post 1448824)
Everyone knows that Stalker's mag springs are in the shape of Bear Cavalry. They never wear out, they just keep charging foreward.

In any case, if he pulls on the bb retainer rod, it wont eject BB's. Itll eject home forged stalker knives from a hidden compartment in the mag. I heard he converted his pistol mags to shoot out machettes

I thought it was rabid gremlins...


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