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Airsoft/Real Firearm owners, need your help
I'm looking for some side by side comparison of airsoft and their real firearm counterpart pictures.
I'm trying to show why airsoft is not a toy and why we have an age verification system. I know there was one with the G36 the RCMP seized, I've also seen one with MP5's. I believe a member here also has one of a Sig 556 and their Swiss Arms. I want to show how realistic these things are and are not the same as the clear toys from Walmart and CT and should be handled like real firearms. |
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@ Drache: Stop what your doing and take up a hobby or something.
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That or read a book. |
or change the title and derail it XD
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What? I don't see the problem. Airsoft guns aren't toys and should be handled like real firearms. Because toys won't get ERT on your ass.
Edit: am I being trolled here? |
I saw the Gun Nutz thread. The guys in Lethbridge etc. are full on trolls.
All the worry about people in an airsoft forum turning them gay is just typical closet queen denial. You're in the same place as the paintball players who show up here to throw a smackdown. |
Gotcha, airsoft is "just a toy"... so WHY do we have an age verification system then? I guess this guy should just buy his 12 year son a "name brand" airsoft gun and let him run around with it then?
I'm trying to show someone how realistic these things look, that they aren't to be taken lightly. Funny when I first started playing airsoft the first rule that everyone here on ASC told me was make sure to always treat your airsoft as if it was a real firearm. I guess things have changed..... Quote:
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You know such as; Don't run around the neighborhood with it, keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot, don't point it at someone whom is not part of a game you're currently playing, don't point it at someone who isn't your target, don't shoot it until you know your target, etc. |
Stop disrupting Darwinism?
Sorry, I can't bring myself to care if their house gets raided or even if the kid gets shot. It's a parenting call. If something happens its not on us. I got my first airgun when I was about 10. I never paraded it in public or did anything boneheaded with it, entirely because I had parental supervision and had been told what to do/not do. Lets hope these parents do as good a job. Otherwise, chalk it up to natural selection. |
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Mate, you stated your piece, if he chooses to disregard your opinion that's his business. Walk away and chill man, have a nice cuppa joe or something and relax. |
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My problem is airsoft ending up in the news AGAIN because of some kid running around with a realistic gun. I'm just trying to better educate said parent. By 10 I had my own .22 rifle and was out hunting grouse. But parents are seeming to take a step back now. Too few beat their kids or have any common sense. Kid wants something so they buy it for them right there without even knowing what it truly is. |
let's just exterminate journalists: no more media problems.
OR convert all Canadian TV anchors to airsoft.Like a cult. |
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There is an old saying. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
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+1 ..........
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One is real and one is airsoft:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_n...0/MWTB0984.JPG Can you tell which? |
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But Im probably wrong. |
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I have this, but it's not a great example (first pic).
Schlyder has better examples of the Sigs (second pic: both airsoft, third pic: left is airsoft right is real). http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...k/IMG_6375.jpg http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC01515.jpg http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC00886.jpg |
Those are some of the ones I was thinking of Styrak. The bottom two are really convincing.
I remember in the RCMP G36 one they actually took the airsoft mag and stuck it with the real gun (due to the fake bullets) to try and prove their point more. |
In the case of the two M4's bottom one is real and top is airsoft and also a GBBR as Kaos suggests. The forward assist is worn because it's got a crap paint job from factory :D The large grip on the bottom one is a magpul grip whereas the GBBR has a stock grip.
I'd argue it's very hard to tell unless you're experienced with the particular firearm. But even then there would be no way of being sure. The last two Sig's Styrak posted up I would have had no idea which was real and which wasn't had he not have told us. Maybe if I owned one of each (airsoft and real Sig) I'd have a chance of telling? |
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But yeah, it's a hard match, they got it down exact.... |
It even has a stamped steel receiver like the real one.
Probably thinner walls, but still. |
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/1135/1285121539604.jpg
im pretty sure this isnt the rcmp one you were talking about because i remember that one having a railed upper rather than the scoped one. not to mention the top one is an sl-8 conversion |
Dude Just stop feeding the CGN trolls. Saying that you are trying to prevent bad Airsoft publicity while generating negitave Airsoft publicity on a nationally monitored Firearm web site is like fucking for Virginity.
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I dont get this topic.
Airsoft is based on the fact that they look like the real deal. What is there to proove about handling them in a respectable fashion with these pics? You point at a guy with something that remotely looks like a gun in public and you'll reap what you sow. What more is there to understand? |
Not a damn thing lol
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I've tried explaining they are 1:1 copies of the real firearms and that some even have the same markings as the real thing. He just doesn't seem to grasp that. |
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Dude, leave well enough alone, you are not Airsoft's PR man on GunNutz nor are you savior of the free world. You gave the guy your opinion, he ignored it. Simple as that. At this point your doing more harm and putting more bad press on airsoft then his retarded child ever could. By running around a website frequented by Antis and free associating our TOYS with real firearms. So do us all a favor and knock it off. |
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Is this in your town or something? If so then just call the cops saying some kids are running around with what appear to be "military grade machine gun sniper baby puppy kitten and seal killing assault rifles". If this is on a forum or something then not much you can do. Really the only thing you could do is link to news articles about kids getting shot/killed and arrests/charges being laid. |
You can only help those willing to be helped, he obviously is not wanting.
Move on. |
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Also you may think of these as "just toys" but some of them have FRT numbers. Then some have even been sold on these very forums which were capable with the turn of a knob on becoming firearms. When I use my airsoft guns, I treat them as if they were real firearms and follow the same rules. Sorry if my way of thinking which was taught to me on this very forum 6 years ago is a little archaic now.... |
No, you follow safe handling procedures to minimize exposure of your toys to the eyes of people unaware that they are infact toys, and you use basic firearms safety handling steps to ensure that no accidental discharges occur whilst using your toys before the start of a game.
They are toys my friend, a toy that can be easily mistaken for a live firearm by almost anyone. Also by your logic all metal pipes of sufficiently small inside diameters should be considered firearms as they could potentially be converted into rudimentary firearms by someone with the inclination to do so? What Im saying is that by insisting that they are not toys and by focusing on the possibility of a negative outcome your enthusiasm is generating possible negative backlash. Although I do apologize as I was under the impression the discussion in question was on CGN and not a "car forum" that was my oversight and I accept that I made a mistake in that regard. I think Drake put it best and frankly I suppose my additional comments beyond what has already been said are for naught. Cheers |
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The moment airsoft started being assigned FRT numbers then they stopped being "just toys" in most cases. |
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preaching to the Choir here... and your breath is wasted on the guy buying the gun for his kid. and... they are toys.. that look like guns ..and they are dangerous if used incorrectly .. so for safety sake , treat them like a real gun and you won't go wrong. However... invoking the call of the "mall Ninja" on CGN and uttering the word "airsoft" will just shitcan your rep there. |
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Yes I have been in a couple airsoft discussions on CGN and have even changed some minds and sent a couple of them over here. But once again THIS topic was due to a discussion on a CAR forum. :p |
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I can get you pics of the gf's M14s as for me sorry but I don't have RS counterpart of my airsoft guns...( m249, m60 and rpk....)
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I think we should be careful not to confuse the fact that TOY GUNS got onto the FRT because of horribly worded and ill thought-out laws actually confers onto them any real world power beyond those of a TOY GUN.
At the end of the day they'll be the same toy guns which shoot field-legal velocities and the only difference between them is the build quality and finish. 1. Do we care about this kid's fate? No. 2. If pursuing this argument with the father on other forums (or anyone else who doesn't want to listen) doing anything positive for airsoft? No. 3. Should you drop it and walk away? Most definitely. |
CGN has become the shxthole, i only go on there now to sell guns that i dont shoot anymore. There is another forum that was started by all the banned CGn'er.
CGN for some reason dont welcome/avoid airsoft ever since they first started up, u can mention just 1 tiny thing about airsoft or stuff about airsoft. And the admin will go apeshxt on you (eg. i made a comment about running an airsoft version of a PEQ15, rather than buying a real one). At the end of the day, i got infraction, ever since then, i stopped posting. |
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Trying to keep airsoft out of the news? Good luck. Just search airsoft on google news. There's no end to people's stupidity.
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Drache, i know what you mean.. everytime i'm at the store, i see parents bringing their 8 or 10 year old son in. most of the time, the parents would buy the gun. I would like to stop them, but that means i'll disrupt the owner's business.. either way, life is life, we cant stop problems all the time, just do whatever you can, if you still don't succeed.. just walk away~
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