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The Sandman November 15th, 2010 11:54

Aftermath Broxa for cqb?
 
what do you guys think(?)

If i downgrade the spring, it has a decent rof with a 9.6 and the downgrade spring should increase the rof slightly, also what power of spring should i swap it for to achieve 330 fps

the reason i chose the broxa is because i bought it new for only one hundred dollars

and i play mostly wood games so i cant justify buying a 300 dollar gun that im not going to use much.

Greenwolf November 15th, 2010 12:02

You'll get the same response from almost everyone:

1) Get AV'd, that opens up a lot of options for you and people will be much more helpful. Plus you'll be able to participate in bigger games.

2) Read the FAQ's in regards to rules of the forums and to get a better idea of how this site and airsoft in Canada work in general. Yes there are sections of the FAQ dealing with weapon selection and modification.

3) Don't try and buck the system, the rules are here for a reason. If you have the gun now and your under 18 your gonna catch crap from the larger community, unless you prove you are mature enough to handle it. Even then your age will work against you.

I know that doesn't answer your original question but it is important you understand the rules here. Airsoft in Canada is so well off partly because the largest community is also self-regulated. Don't be surprised if you aren't met with open arms because you have a gun without going through that regulation.

Hopefully this has been helpful, best of luck to you in entering the sport.

*edit* http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...ghlight=Choose hopefully that helps. Easily found through the search engine.

The Sandman November 15th, 2010 12:04

i tryed to get in contact with the sault ste marie rep but i didnt get a reply yet

i shouldnt of even asked the question i know it would be fine to do this for the gun and i am 18

tehmedic November 15th, 2010 12:18

use an m100

The Sandman November 15th, 2010 12:23

thanks

VooDooPeteK November 15th, 2010 12:34

personally if the spring is the only thing you are going to change I would say go with an m90 spring, the aftermath hop ups units are crap as well so you might want to look for a replacement so you can use a normal aeb barrel


but yea m90 or m100 at most in those from my personal experience

The Sandman November 15th, 2010 12:55

thanks this is the response i was looking for:)

Darklen November 15th, 2010 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by VooDooPeteK (Post 1350402)
personally if the spring is the only thing you are going to change I would say go with an m90 spring, the aftermath hop ups units are crap as well so you might want to look for a replacement so you can use a normal aeb barrel


but yea m90 or m100 at most in those from my personal experience


Agreed with the M90. Replace the hopup, selector switch & selector lobe (I replace these a lot in my shop) and possibly the trigger switch.

Barrel is ok for CQB where long distance accuracy isn't really a factor, but don't expect much. The rest of the gun is ok at best. I see the Aftermath MP5 series a fair bit in my shop for a variety of issues, the above being the most common.

BUT, seriously, get AV'd or visit one of the site supporting retailers. There's way better out there for what you'd pay for a Broxa/Lycaon plus the upgrades. If you're a tweeker and don't mind spending the time and money needed, you can work wonders with a Broxa/Lycaon but there's way better platforms to start with that would be way cheaper in the long run.

The Sandman November 15th, 2010 13:17

naw this will be fine those upgrades are easy, and this is only for when i play cqb anyways i play more outdoors anyway

L473ncy November 15th, 2010 16:03

You can also "short stroke" the piston as well to gain a bit of ROF I have heard that removing 3 teeth is a pretty standard. Like others have said, M90 or "1 Joule" spring is also what you're looking for to get < 330 FPS. Then I guess you're done and can just play with it then reassess. If it's good then don't mess with it, if you feel the need for higher ROF then I guess you could run a high speed motor and high speed gears, the spring should be able to be pulled back by that setup especially considering you're running < 330 FPS.

TheMightyOb November 15th, 2010 18:57

I tried one for all of two minutes and was not a fan other than the speed of the pellets coming out of it.

It also felt cheap and the selector swich was sticky out of the box...I know, what do you expect for 129 bucks...but still

Don't get any crazy ideas about going to the Aftermath M4 knight cqb either. I went that route and am currently in the process of replacing the hop up on it. It was non existenst, they might as well have not even bothered installing one, seriously, it was the shits.

Hopefully once its done it shoots better...

RaisinBran November 15th, 2010 21:32

He is not asking for advice on buying guns he is just asking if he should put a part in or not, there's really no need for the A/V. He already has the gun.

The Prometheus M90 would be best, if you can upgrade the motor too since the stock motor isn't very good.

TheMightyOb November 15th, 2010 22:47

Ahhh crap true enough

Spawn28 November 15th, 2010 22:52

Aftermath should never be purchased as a primary but with some decent parts they are quite enjoyable little guns.

xaMdaM November 16th, 2010 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sandman (Post 1350375)
what do you guys think(?)

If i downgrade the spring, it has a decent rof with a 9.6 and the downgrade spring should increase the rof slightly, also what power of spring should i swap it for to achieve 330 fps

the reason i chose the broxa is because i bought it new for only one hundred dollars

and i play mostly wood games so i cant justify buying a 300 dollar gun that im not going to use much.

If you are playing woods games with your buddies, your $100 broxa would be fine for you.

If you want to increase your ROF for CQB then yes, you will have to do someting about the spring. Unfortunately, I cant advise you on the exact spring you will need for your Broxa to get your desired ROF. Experimentation might be the key. Have you already taken the spring out? IF you take it to a reputable Airsoft shop, they can measure your curent spring dimensions and spring rate and then advise you one what spring you can purchase.

SuperCriollo November 16th, 2010 12:41

Wow only 100 $. Thats quite a good deal.

L473ncy November 16th, 2010 13:44

Read the OP, he's asking what it needs to be a CQB gun, it sounds like he already has an "outdoor gun". He's just too lazy to keep swapping springs every time he goes from outdoor to indoor and vice versa is what I understand when I read the OP.

The Sandman November 16th, 2010 16:06

not lazy just don`t want a mp5 when ive got a perfectly good thompson, the only reason i bought it was so i could use it for when i visit toronto area to play in arenas

Hurley895 November 16th, 2010 20:07

I don't personally own one but my good buddy does and here is his thoughts on the gun:

I don't know if your having problems with it yet but the Hi-cap that comes with it is a pain. The mag eats the "ready" Bb's fast, might want to get different mags.

The stock can interfere with a full face mask when trying to look down the barrel. (or my buddy is just a huge man with a to scale head lol)


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