How is this working silencer possible?
 

YouTube- Joe UMP

I could be way off and say this a real ump45 but this guys page is full of airsoft and airsoft related.

Is this possible to do with an airsoft gun?

do what? shoot bb's?
Yes some silencers can muffle the sound.
And its say under the video ''UMP REPLICA''

You would indeed be way off on thinking its real.

There are "working" versions of airsoft surpressors. For example the TM Mk 23s surpressor actully does reduce the retord of the gun. Muffle is probably a better word. Basically there are cylinder disks about an inch ( with a whole for a bb obviously in the middle) thick made out of soft foam in the surpressor.

Not really all that quiet as it is anyways. I've seen a few AEG's that are a hell of a lot quieter without any sort of mock silencer on them. Just the way they are built.

I thought the noise that an airsoft gun made was from the motor? For some reason ithought it was illegal to have a functioning silencer in canada for an airsoft gun.

I'd actually really like to look into this. Except the umg silencers have been out of stock for 3 years.

Im assuming some custom work would have to be done to it as well.

I really dig the change in sound of the bb firing tho. I like it muffled.

That's a pretty loud gun.

I should really record SCG's M14 firing... it's retardedly quiet.

is it a TM m14? .... because those are uber quiet... :)

BTW: the muffled sound might come from the cheap microphone of the camera too...

The suppressor I designed for my KSC M11A1 works incredibly well considering it's a loud gun to start with (GBB).

But most of the noise in AEG is in the gears turning and the sound of the piston slapping the cylinder head............ spin a motor without the gears involved and it's a small VRRRRRRRRR sound. Think about what you hear int he distance at games, what sound cuts through brush more, and you'll get an idea where the noise comes from and how to control it to a point. Supressor on an AEG only cuts back on the slight popping sound that comes from the muzzle after a BB leaves the end of the barrel, nothing more. And it doesn't silence that sound, it more of less just contains it in a lined tube so most of the sound is absorbed by the foam and contained by the shell.

Their silencers usually do affect the sound one way or another. My M4 silencer makes the same sound with my AEG.

If you can find a silencer that has a big enough barrel to put foam and washers in you are good to go.

I haven't used it yet but I used piping foam as a replacement for the crappy thin foam my silencer came with. Its just big enough to let a .25 BB but I don't know if it will silence it or not.

I'll post my feed back once I get my gun though.

There is no way I've seen though to silence the motor.

I had a G&P zombie killer silencer that i bought off airsoftparts for my TM G17, and it was waaaay more quiet when i putted the silencer on. It was working with 1 inch foam inserts with spacers, and it was working really well, i was surprised when i shot it at first lol.

Ok first off TECHNICALLY they would be illegal but it's just that airsoft grey area.

Second the silencer (not suppressor :p) that drastically changed the sound of my JG 416. It was not a big change to the person who was doing the shooting, BUT for other people it did.

In outdoor games you can hear someone's AEG making a rapid fire popping sound when being fired (I LOVE that sound :D) from all the way across the field, with my silencer on the 416 you couldn't hear that sound from anything over 1/4 the distance and even then it was muffled.

There's several ways to make an AEG whisper quiet...

It's all about choosing the right parts selection.

Lack of casing ejection was my first indication to it being not real, among many many many other things. :D

Recoil? :D

I cant imagine with just the umg supressor that is so rare that, that muffled sound would be obtained. There has to be something else involved. internal padding/washers etc.

Im going to make a ghetto silencer Steven Segal style in underseige with a pop bottle :)

No but really, theres no where I can find a UMG suppressor unless i get lucky in the classifieds. I have yet to come accross someone who has customized another make/model to fit. Curse g&g for that.

Same principal behind that Noveske flashider thing available for AEGs. You know, the one that can be adjusted so you can get a loud crack sound when firing?

I tried the pop bottle trick years ago with a buddy of mine and a .22cal rifle, it was fucking loud!

There was a guy selling a G&G UMP in the classifieds that came with a custome made one that he had made for it. Don't remember the user but I believe he was on the Rangers team maybe. Ask him where he got it made or if he still has it perhaps.

Sorry was mistaken, it wasn't a suppressor it was an extension to cover the longer tightbore he had installed

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...%26amp%3BG+UMP

real mp5 with silencer

YouTube- HK MP5 Submachine gun with Gemtech Raptor II Silencer

More appropriately UMP 45 suppressed.

YouTube- H&K UMP .45

Well at least this hasn't turned into a debate on whether it's called a Silencer or Suppressor :p

Silpressencsor

:D

Gosh these floors are sticky.

I just came.

The only way your going to get a suppressor that works for your AEG is by taking a pillow and wrapping it around the receiver.

That's not true at all...

Helical gears with a perfect shim job, a smooth set of bearings, a properly comm lathe'd motor, MASK sorbothane cylinder head, MASK Sorbothane piston head with a custom made air-break..

and a nice long suppressor WITHOUT an inner barrel extending into it.

I've build several AEG's that you can't hear they're firing at you from the muzzle side at 40 feet.

Sewing machine sound?

My UMP was pretty damn quiet, you really had to listen for it outdoors and sounded totally unique
Amos knows how quiet it was lol

Stock? Cause so far mine is.

I really want this muffled sound just like the video :)

Your going to have to upgrade it then. Theres not many ways the silencer an AEG besides a suppressor, and internal upgrades.

And M4's and the likes are harder to silence than things like Bolt Action's, P90's etc. So you won't be the quietest on the field anyways usually.

Silencers in airsoft muffle the sound by a very small amount.
Mostly what they do is, they spread the sound around, so you can't understand where the shot came from.

I had a custom mod with a silent head set, but an ARS cylinder and piston head set will work even better, and obviously buy the silencer lol

Like this?

http://www.airsoftresearchsyndicate....&product_id=83

and

http://www.airsoftresearchsyndicate....&product_id=75

yup

By the way, are AEGs without any suppressors on louder or real steel subsonic rifles? What about supersonic?

That depends. A ruger 10/22 can be made to shoot so that the only sound is the bolt cycling on subsonics. If the same modification is done on a bolt action, no perceivable sound would be made. So, yes.
(REF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GbjXvH7xJA)]

A suppressed rifle shooting supersonics can, at the muzzle, shoot as quiet as a rifle shooting subsonics. The sound of the round breaking the sound barrier creates the snap downrange, and is not produced at the rifle.

AEG's, mostly, are much quieter than a suppressed rifle (subsonic or super sonic) because the bolt cycling is louder than an AEG (look at GBBR's, they are relatively quiet at the muzzle, but loud as fuck from the action moving.)

With all that said! Most suppressed production rifles of a caliber higher than .22LR, are still pretty loud when firing, most will not cause hearing damage (which is a major argument for the legalization for suppressed weapons in the USA.) The goal of most suppressors is to make a large caliber rounds sound like a .22LR from 100m away, and to mask audible direction, and remove flash from the equation of being spotted.

Certain calibers of rifles show more promise of being suppressed than others. 5.56 is a shitty round to suppress, as it's goal is high speed (supersonic) with a large amount of powder (more flash to suppress, and gasses to slow down).

.300 BLK is an excellent round to suppress, as it's a fat round with good ballistics (a 9" barrel shooting .300 BLK hits harder at 300 yards than a 20" Barrel shooting 5.56), so much that AAC (a leader in suppression tech) has dedicated a LOT of their research to making it a more commercial round (.300 BLK (Blackout)). Here's the wiki page for those interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/300_AAC...7.62%C3%9735mm)

Lots more information at AAC: http://www.advanced-armament.com/

Hope that helps.

Lastly, an interesting project was an individual making suppressors from freeze plugs, and he has videos online which are RIDICULOUSLY quiet.

Depends on the rifle and how far away you are

Thanks for the info Shelled. So for mil sim purposes, perhaps it's arguably more "MilSim" to add a mock suppressor without foam onto an AEG? Or maybe add a Noveski Firepig loundener onto an AEG? Of course airsoft still isn't as milsim as using simmunition, but aren't available to civilians and cost a ton.