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spartan117 April 21st, 2010 20:52

Hi-Capa 5.1/4.3 Holster thread
 
Hey guys! Anyone who owns a hi-capa 5.1 probably will have asked this question millions of times: "What holster fits a hi-capa?"

Me ,being a hi-capa owner myself, has searched the web numerous times looking for info on any type of hard case holster for my hi-capa. At last after some work i found some info that will answer your questions.

Here is the list!

Hi-capa 5.1:
- Safariland models for 1911 with some modifications to the area around the magazine release. R/L handed
- Serpa model for, i believe, 1911 (i think....may need to search some more) with either modifications to round the trigger guard or a Tanio-Koba grip. R/L handed

Hi-capa 5.1 with Tactical Light:
- Safariland models for Springfield Operator/kimber with light mount, provided that you have replaced the midframe with an integral-rail one by SD/Freedom Art/etc. R/L Handed

Hi-capa 4.3:
- Safariland models for the Glock 17/22. R/L Handed
- 5.11 Revolution model for the 1911 Officer/Para 12. R hand only
- Blackhawk Serpa for 1911 with Xiphos light (takes only the pistol without a light, but trigger lock mechanism does work that way). R Hand only

Hi-capa 4.3 with Tactical Light:
- Safariland models for the Glock 17/22 with M3 light. R/L Handed

Here's a video of the Hi-capa 4.3 in the Safariland glock 12/22 holster(m3 light):
Marui custom tactical 4.3 and Safariland holster review. - YouTube



Hope this helps!!!

sarosh April 21st, 2010 21:18

good call. what about 3.8 the baby hi-capas??

RacingManiac April 21st, 2010 21:37

Bladetech made several holster that can fit Hi-Capa. What you want to pick, depends on what configuration you are running. The one that's most likely to fit is a SVI SDC of a STI 2011 SDC for a regular 5.1.

4.3 I am not too sure since RS STIs don't run that kind of squared off frame/slide combo, though the "one size fits all" solution for 2011 will likely be the SVI 5" LDC holster. With Blade-Tech being tension adjustable you can tighten/loosen to suit the fit.

With tac light I am not too sure, they do make 1911 Holster with light, but theirs tend to be molded to the gun+light combo and thus the wacky way of 5.1 light attaches might not fit it...

3.9s can work with the 5" LDC, if you find the excess length, excessive, you can always cut the end off.....

Just as a random bit, I happen to have a Sig Pro 2340 holster from Bladetech sitting around, and it actually fits a 3.9 inch WA 2011 just fine....with positive retention as well...

http://www.pbase.com/racingmaniac/im...5/original.jpg

sarosh April 21st, 2010 21:45

sweet thanks. love that gun racingmaniac lol, saw it in the pistol thread, one of the reasons i actually want one lol just deciding on which brand to get.

Pivot April 23rd, 2010 10:21

"Revolution" holsters are garbage (more like the "cultural revolution" holster, take your holster 20 years in the wrong direction). Take it from someone who (reluctantly) sells them. Avoid these POS at all costs.

Just like RM said, buy a Blade-Tech STI EDGE FDC for your 5.1 (just give you some extra space, and margin for error/non-spec. I've used one for my TM Hi-Capa, and it works like a charm. I've heard, anecdotally, that the 4.3 doesn't retain in the same holster very well, but I haven't had any first hand experience with it.

StrikeFreedom April 26th, 2010 14:43

How about KJW Hicapa? It has the TK grip with round trigger guard, however its frame has the rail built in.

RacingManiac April 26th, 2010 16:27

For Bladetech, the holster does not care about trigger guard shape, its more important for frame clearance.

Kos-Mos April 26th, 2010 18:38

I tried a Blackhawk! Serpa Lv2 with my KJW Hicapa. It fits tight in a holster made for 1911R. The rail clears perfectly. Tight because of the frame is a tad bit larger than the 1911. A tiny sanding with fine sand paper or some use can make the holster easier to work.

Basically, a LV1 would probably be enough to hold is down.

vondnik April 26th, 2010 18:42

any holster designed for a 2011 IE a double stack 45.


I used a eagle mark 4 holster built for a beretta m9 for mine

Styrak April 26th, 2010 18:44

I use a clone Serpa 1911 holster and it works great. I have a TK grip and it's a TAD tight but nothing a firm pull doesn't solve.

philster911 April 26th, 2010 19:20

My level 3 blackhawk SERPA holster, with mag holster:
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...1/IMG_3870.jpg
http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/t...1/IMG_3871.jpg
Holds my TM hicapa tight, and very nice, comfortable, doesn't wobble on my leg at all! Only thing: This is expensive ( 200$+).

Styrak April 26th, 2010 19:31

That's a level 2, by the way.

Pivot April 26th, 2010 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1220328)
For Bladetech, the holster does not care about trigger guard shape, its more important for frame clearance.

I disagree. while some retention comes from fit, the vast majority of it comes from the indentation that is formed around the inside of the trigger guard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1220465)
That's a level 2, by the way.

Truth. The level 3 has a hood that comes over the back of the slide. I'd even argue that it's level one, since with the SERPAs, if you bypass the lock and turn the holster upside down, you can easily shake the gun out (if it doesn't just drop on it's own).

RacingManiac April 27th, 2010 00:24

Personally, I find that a 2011 model (square trigger guard) will fit a 1911 (round) with no problem. But I think the opposite can be true...

Styrak April 27th, 2010 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pivot (Post 1220719)
I'd even argue that it's level one, since with the SERPAs, if you bypass the lock and turn the holster upside down, you can easily shake the gun out (if it doesn't just drop on it's own).

Bypass the lock and it's level one?

Isn't that like saying "If I flip down the cover on my level 3 Serpa I can take it out with only one lock so it's basically a level 2"?

??? I don't get it.

Twin#1[Op-for] April 27th, 2010 00:48

There are 2011 model Serpas or similar holsters? I thought you had to modify glock ones?

Styrak April 27th, 2010 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1220772)
There are 2011 model Serpas or similar holsters? I thought you had to modify glock ones?

Read the thread again.

There are 1911 Serpas.

Twin#1[Op-for] April 27th, 2010 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1220760)
Personally, I find that a 2011 model (square trigger guard) will fit a 1911 (round) with no problem. But I think the opposite can be true...

This is what I'm refering to...unless RM is referring to the gun model and not the holster? Either way, do the Hicappa's fit into the 1911 Serpa's without modifications? I've heard that they don't, but now I'm seeing that they can. Which is it? :p

Styrak April 27th, 2010 04:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1220775)
This is what I'm refering to...unless RM is referring to the gun model and not the holster? Either way, do the Hicappa's fit into the 1911 Serpa's without modifications? I've heard that they don't, but now I'm seeing that they can. Which is it? :p

Pivot and RM were talking about Bladetech holsters.

1911 Serpas require only SLIGHT modification for Hicapas if you use the stock grips, or might need none at all with Tanio Koba grips.
I "slightly modified" mine when I had the stock TM grips but now I have a TK grip, so I couldn't tell you if a TK grip doesn't require any modifications.

RacingManiac April 27th, 2010 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1220760)
Personally, I find that a 2011 model (square trigger guard) will fit a 1911 (round) with no problem. But I think the opposite can be true...


btw, I just noticed the typo, it should have been "CAN'T" be true....

Twin#1[Op-for] April 27th, 2010 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1220822)
Pivot and RM were talking about Bladetech holsters.

1911 Serpas require only SLIGHT modification for Hicapas if you use the stock grips, or might need none at all with Tanio Koba grips.
I "slightly modified" mine when I had the stock TM grips but now I have a TK grip, so I couldn't tell you if a TK grip doesn't require any modifications.

Oh ok, that makes more sense. Thanks, I'm going to look into picking one up.

StrikeFreedom May 5th, 2010 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 1220822)
Pivot and RM were talking about Bladetech holsters.

1911 Serpas require only SLIGHT modification for Hicapas if you use the stock grips, or might need none at all with Tanio Koba grips.
I "slightly modified" mine when I had the stock TM grips but now I have a TK grip, so I couldn't tell you if a TK grip doesn't require any modifications.

What's the "slight" modification? Shaving the trigger guard area in the holster?

Kos-Mos May 5th, 2010 21:24

Read the post I made.

Hicapa + TK grip means no modification at all.

If you have a stock TM grip, the grip will hit the holster right before the safety engages. You have to grind the area of the holster where your middle finger lies on your grip.

Styrak May 5th, 2010 21:25

Yes. If you have a stock Hicapa grip, it is square. A 1911 has a rounded trigger guard so you have to shave some material off the trigger guard area of the holster (pistol will lock in fine after this).

Just modify and test, modify and test, until you get the right amount. Doesn't take that much work.

StrikeFreedom May 5th, 2010 22:04

Ok thanks, wanted to make sure that the holster is "modable" in the trigger guard area. Some people mod the trigger guard on the gun instead, but I don't think that'll look too good.

ejay003 May 9th, 2010 06:21

Would a TM 4.3 fit in BladeTech holster that's made for an STI tactical 4.15?

RacingManiac May 9th, 2010 09:53

I don't think so, since STI still has a small slide cut and a shorter dust cover, where as TM modeled the SVI design with a squared slide and long dust cover...

hattrick May 9th, 2010 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarosh (Post 1217266)
sweet thanks. love that gun racingmaniac lol, saw it in the pistol thread, one of the reasons i actually want one lol just deciding on which brand to get.


Good luck I'm pretty sure i've got the only other one in canada. They've been discontinued for a while now.

-alex

ejay003 May 9th, 2010 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingManiac (Post 1229729)
I don't think so, since STI still has a small slide cut and a shorter dust cover, where as TM modeled the SVI design with a squared slide and long dust cover...

You may be thinking about the STI tactical 5.0 and not the 4.15, which is the midlength version and has a long dust with rail.

HeadlessChicken May 22nd, 2010 11:44

I've been wanting to pickup the Blade-Tech Kydex WRS for the Kimber Warrior for some time. Now is this any different from the aforementioned Blade-Tech STI EDGE FDC or will I need to mod the holster to fit my TM 5.1 with an SD Kimber SIS slide?

RacingManiac May 22nd, 2010 12:22

That one looks like a holster for 1911 with weapon light? That is not the same as the FDC/LDC holster....

HeadlessChicken May 22nd, 2010 12:32

Well I did a bit more searching and found 911supply.ca carrying a Blade-Tech SRB with a STI 2011 fitting option.

HeadlessChicken June 11th, 2010 18:10

^I ordered the holster, tried it, fits perfectly. It felt a little tight when trying to draw but after trying it out, it works nice. I'll be fielding it tonight.

Mantisniper November 15th, 2010 22:12

Hey guys, i know i'm bringing back a sorta old post, but if you really don't like that please at least answer my question, and then delete my post.

I know this is a stretch, but do any of you know if if the Safariland glock 17/22 w/surefire x200 light will fit the tm 4.3 with the just that (the surefire x200 light). And if it does, do you have any idea if it will hold it perfectly without the light too, say i get the holster, with a plan to get the light, but never do. Will i be screwed, or will i be pleasantly surprised?? :) I know the original poster stated that the Safariland glock 17/22 w/M3 light would fit the 4.3 w/M3, i was just wondering if the surefire would work too...i assume it does

Thank you, in advance

ILLusion December 15th, 2010 13:13

I get asked about this question so much, that I have to sticky this thread here. It's also one of the most often asked questions on the forum... it's time to make a place for it here.

spartan117 December 15th, 2010 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mantisniper (Post 1350777)
Hey guys, i know i'm bringing back a sorta old post, but if you really don't like that please at least answer my question, and then delete my post.

I know this is a stretch, but do any of you know if if the Safariland glock 17/22 w/surefire x200 light will fit the tm 4.3 with the just that (the surefire x200 light). And if it does, do you have any idea if it will hold it perfectly without the light too, say i get the holster, with a plan to get the light, but never do. Will i be screwed, or will i be pleasantly surprised?? :) I know the original poster stated that the Safariland glock 17/22 w/M3 light would fit the 4.3 w/M3, i was just wondering if the surefire would work too...i assume it does

Thank you, in advance

Update on first post. Your question has already been answered. :P

Wicked[Deadcell] February 19th, 2011 17:48

5.1 holster
 
So if I have a 5.1 hi capa (non-railed frame) with the v12 slide and TK grip... which safariland holster is suppose to fit? the 1911? or still the p226?

skag187 February 1st, 2013 04:26

how about a 4.3 in a fobus type holster?
would that work?

spartan117 February 1st, 2013 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wicked[Deadcell] (Post 1413645)
So if I have a 5.1 hi capa (non-railed frame) with the v12 slide and TK grip... which safariland holster is suppose to fit? the 1911? or still the p226?

I think thats a typo. Should be 1911 holsters.

SeanL23 February 6th, 2013 01:06

G-code makes a holster for the STI 2011 5.01in, does anybody know if that will fit a Hi-capa?

spascat27 December 22nd, 2013 19:47

4.3 hi capa streamlight tlr
 
Hi guys
Does anyone know if a Safarailand 6005 glock 17 holster, will fit a marui hi capa 4.3, with a streamlight tlr1/tlr2?
Thanks


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