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-   -   JoeFriday is the brain behind the Props Canada fiasco (https://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=90429)

Brian McIlmoyle September 18th, 2009 17:30
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Originally Posted by tattoodan (Post 1067904)
I don't think people want to suck up to Greg, but I think the 20 or so who have a current order and were probably gonna get it don't wan't to become the latests victims and be added up to the whole Propscam fiasco.

Like Ujiro said tho, this is no reason to cut him some slack and foremost, to let him get away with it again.

Granted .. I'd be worried now if I had an outstanding order... as with the heat he will likely take the money and run..

Drake September 18th, 2009 17:50
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Originally Posted by Brian McIlmoyle (Post 1067897)
This is what you get for allowing the use of nicknames on the forum... bad people can do harm, drop out and resurface with a new ID
Well, to be fair, he got AV'd and it was under a different name. So even if the forum was real name only this would have gone down the same way.

What alarms me more is that some people knew whom JoeFriday was but failed to say anything. We found out because some other people were on the ball and came forward with info (you know who you are, big props to you guys), which allowed us to formulate a plan of action to try and ensure that at the very least people on this pre-order (JoeFriday's) wouldn't get scammed too.

wildcard September 18th, 2009 18:00
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Originally Posted by DonP (Post 1067856)
I'm staggered by you apologists. He took many $1000's for products he did not have and in many cases never even delivered (and even then only under direct threats and pressure), and to many giving nothing but runaround after runaround before dropping off the face of the earth to let it all blow over.

Then he comes back with a new name and a new "face", figuring that all the old people he fucked would be long gone and the debts forgotten, and enough new people would be around that he could just start over again because they wouldn't know anything about it and wouldn't care if they did!

It seems he was mostly right. I never thought I'd see the day.
Well let's not forget Miki's Share in the propscam too

medhatboy September 18th, 2009 18:02
I'm probably one of the lucky few that got his stuff from the original Props Canada order.

wildcard September 18th, 2009 18:05
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Originally Posted by Swatt Five-Six (Post 1067928)
I'm probably one of the lucky few that got his stuff from the original Props Canada order.
nope, me too - Top M60E3 and Asahi M60VN and 4x TM M4

The Saint September 18th, 2009 18:06
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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1067922)
What alarms me more is that some people knew whom JoeFriday was but failed to say anything.
It's not exactly the first time people failed to come forward regarding someone else's misdeeds on ASC.

Nonetheless, kudos to the whistleblowers. There can be no accountability without disclosure of ugly secrets.

Sentinel September 18th, 2009 18:27
Got a tracking number... Says that it's ''electronically ordered'' or something since the 15th... Really hope that this status will change soon and have my stuff. I've seen the last update today and seems to be ok for now.

I would like to have Joe speaking publicly his side of the medal on this thread and what are it's intentions and wills to clear his name once and for all. He must have records and proofs of what he already paid back (I hope)and the one that was waiting for money/guns from props canada saga must have proofs of what they've paid to him. Let's balance it together to see if he can work it out for any outstading balance. Both parties send their proofs to a kind of commissioner (Impartial ASC member or staff) and charged to make things even and fair by clarifying the situation.

I'm not saying that what he have done in past is ok and forgive it but i can imagine that when a large order fuck up, it's normal that the guy have some trouble to pay back and maybe take a few years to clear things up. We're talking about many thousand of $$$. The guy still have to live, lodge, eat and caring for any family he have by the meantime. It's just my opinon... I think he came back on ASC only when he was sure in his mind that this case was closed. Anyway...

spartan117 September 18th, 2009 18:31
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Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 1067942)
Got a tracking number... Says that it's ''electronically ordered'' or something since the 15th... Really hope that this status will change soon and have my stuff. I've seen the last update today and seems to be ok for now.

I would like to have Joe speaking publicly his side of the medal on this thread and what are it's intentions and wills to clear his name once and for all. He must have records and proofs of what he already paid back (I hope)and the one that was waiting for money/guns from props canada saga must have proofs of what they've paid to him. Let's balance it together to see if he can work it out for any outstading balance. Both parties send their proofs to a kind of commissioner (Impartial ASC member or staff) and charged to make things even and fair by clarifying the situation.

I'm not saying that what he have done in past is ok and forgive it but i can imagine that when a large order fuck up, it's normal that the guy have some trouble to pay back and maybe take a few years to clear things up. We're talking about many thousand of $$$. The guy still have to live, lodge, eat and caring for any family he have by the meantime. It's just my opinon... I think he came back on ASC only when he was sure in his mind that this case was closed. Anyway...
I agree. My tracking said "Electronically submitted" as well for around 2-3 days but i got it. :) I hope everyone on this order gets either their product or refund.

mcguyver September 18th, 2009 18:34
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Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 1067942)
I think he came back on ASC only when he was sure in his mind that this case was forgotten.
Fixed for you.

I think the only words anyone wants to here from this guy is "The cheque is in the mail", but they've heard that one before, haven't they?

No quarter should be given to this criminal whatsoever.

Forever_kaos September 18th, 2009 18:41
Yep, me and a friend still have "Electronically submitted" from the 15th.

Ronan September 18th, 2009 18:49
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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1067922)
Well, to be fair, he got AV'd and it was under a different name. So even if the forum was real name only this would have gone down the same way.

What alarms me more is that some people knew whom JoeFriday was but failed to say anything. We found out because some other people were on the ball and came forward with info (you know who you are, big props to you guys), which allowed us to formulate a plan of action to try and ensure that at the very least people on this pre-order (JoeFriday's) wouldn't get scammed too.
Actually what alarms me is that he is AV. So he has a fake ID? Bad Age Verifier?

AV failed us this time...

Erennert September 18th, 2009 18:49
No, he's over 18.

Styrak September 18th, 2009 18:52
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Originally Posted by Erennert (Post 1067958)
No, he's over 18.
Dude, read the posts above. He AV'd under a different name, that's why the ASC staff didn't catch it.

theshaneler September 18th, 2009 18:53
not the point, age verifiers should not AV people who have stolen thousands from the community and who's name is known to the us

Erennert September 18th, 2009 18:54
Oh, okay, i get it now.


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