Wow, that's the first time I've heard of 400 fps CQB fields. Here in Ontario, it's impossible to get insurance for anything above 380; like they will literally not insure you if you go above 380. What rates are those field owners paying?!

I have no idea how much they pay, but I've heard one say that anything under 450 fps was fine as long as players wore face masks.

that's a whole lot of nope. 450 can draw blood through clothing from close range.

I've played at lots of 400-420fps CQB fields. It's really not so bad.
Opening night of BFL was 300fps, totally forget that if you get lit up at close range at 300fps it won't even leave a mark lol

I don't get why people complain about 400 FPS CQB games and then get all giddy about PRZ.

I've played both cqb at 350 fps and outdoors at 450 they are day and night. I'd rather be full auto'd in cqb than semi only on out door fields. That shit stung through my jeans and made it feel like cqb were love taps.

Hahahaha I'm sorry if it sounded like that! I can promise you guys, that is not my intention. ;);)

An indoor field here in Toronto, runs 440 fps 2 nights a week. Haha

As far as I know, there's only 3 indoor fields in Toronto. One's listed at 380 and I'm pretty sure they don't go above it, one's at 350 and I don't think they go above that either, and the last is listed at 360. 440 is just asking for trouble in cqb in my opinion...

One does 2 days for experienced players. Those days they don't even chrono. I had them chrono mine for the simple fact that I just did a couple upgrades on my Tippmann m4, and had no idea what I was shooting at.

Might have been 430, can't remember exactly.

I personally like higher fps. Never have an issue with people calling their hits heh.

Ah, ok, I think I know which one you're talking about (360 listed). Huh... that... doesn't seem like a safe practice to me, but if the players don't mind... I bet the insurance companies don't know that's happening though.

Yeah probably not, and I hope they never do. They're my favorite nights there :)

This thread was entertaining.

I'm going to share a recent event relevant to the discussion on high fps at close range.

I got shot in the arm point blank about a month and a half ago while playing outdoor. I was sneaking up on a guy shooting out of a window in a building I had snuck up on, I had my pistol out, he was shooting at my team mates much further away when I surprised him, he panicked and shot. It didn't really hurt worse than say, a shot to the forehead from 80 feet (I hate that). I called myself out, and after the game everyone was trading stories (as always happens after a good game) and the guy who shot me found me and he apologized profusely, which I thought was nice, but not really needed. He said he was shooting about 425 feet per second. I told him it was all in good fun and we both had a good day. High fps (relatively) at close range isnt bad at all really as long as everyone exercises trigger discipline. Full auto is generally a different story.

I've had way worse paintball wounds, and seen way worse paintball wounds, than I've seen airsoft wounds. I tend to play with fairly responsible people though.

That's just the thing - responsible people. Fields generally can't assume or guarantee any old joe walking onto the field is going to be responsible and not be a douche that'll light everybody up with 60+ rps full auto at 500 fps point blank (kinda exaggerating, but you get my point). With people that you know will exercise trigger discipline, high fps or even rof limits aren't really an issue; it's the bunch that don't is what's causing the headaches and limits.

They (the fields) can, and should ban people who regularly abuse the rules, and/or common sense. In paintball if you got a reputation for being a 'bonus baller' it was very hard to shake.